Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

Locotastic

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

You'd be surprised how many kids do pretty much no exercise apart from what they do at school.

In those cases they still won't do exercise even if it's assigned by a teacher. I agree that's up to the parents to encourage and we make sure to do it every day here anyway.

Don't get me started in projects, they are a pain at the best of times but when everyone is trying to keep their s**t together and the show in the road.

I think you'll agree that time is better spent not spending hours doing stupid projects designed to keep kids busy and taking a photo of said project to upload.

I'll be trying to use what little motivation the kids have (they really don't enjoy home schoolwork) to cover basic learning after being out at work myself all day.

Four bloody projects assigned for the first week alone, give me strength.

Locotastic

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

No videos, live check ins or work assigned and corrected?

Google forms daily check in, no live work at all.

I just hoped it would be better, my kids in primary really did not want to go back to home schooling after last year (it was basically the least bare amount of effort of one email a week) but I thought it would be different this time.

I am so frustrated and worried.

mirrorwall14

Locotastic wrote: »

Google forms daily check in, no live work at all.

I just hoped it would be better, my kids in primary really did not want to go back to home schooling after last year (it was basically the least bare amount of effort of one email a week) but I thought it would be different this time.

I am so frustrated and worried.

Forms at least is some contact. However I don’t think you would be unjustified asking the school would it be possible to do one zoom call a week for the kids to see each other. It’s possible the teacher is a home cater or a single parent with no childcare or something but at least you’ll have asked

Smacruairi

Locotastic wrote: »

In those cases they still won't do exercise even if it's assigned by a teacher. I agree that's up to the parents to encourage and we make sure to do it every day here anyway.

Don't get me started in projects, they are a pain at the best of times but when everyone is trying to keep their s**t together and the show in the road.

I think you'll agree that time is better spent not spending hours doing stupid projects designed to keep kids busy and taking a photo of said project to upload.

I'll be trying to use what little motivation the kids have (they really don't enjoy home schoolwork) to cover basic learning after being out at work myself all day.

Four bloody projects assigned for the first week alone, give me strength.

Hey read your previous post. Have you contacted your teacher, or have several of you contacted your parent class rep to look for either live instruction, or prerecorded material to teach the kids at your own pace?

If so and they've said no, I'd go to the principal, and the parent rep on your bom to ask for a revision of the remote learning plan for the school. At this stage, despite zero backing and support from the DES other than "set something up guys", they should have some sort of procedure ready. If not, they should have until the next board meeting to make one work.

A bit of polite, professional pressure, an email of a Sunday for the week just doesn't cut it. Secondary school teacher here though.

mirrorwall14

I’m secondary school too and a parent. There really should be instructional videos for the kids even if live isn’t possible. No way would my principal consider one email a week sufficient. We’d be hauled over the coals pronto

Locotastic

Smacruairi wrote: »

Hey read your previous post. Have you contacted your teacher, or have several of you contacted your parent class rep to look for either live instruction, or prerecorded material to teach the kids at your own pace?

If so and they've said no, I'd go to the parent rep on your bom to ask for a revision of the remote learning plan for the school. At this stage, despite zero backing and support from the DES other than "set something up guys", they should have some sort of procedure ready. If not, they should have until the next board meeting to make one work.

A bit of polite, professional pressure, an email of a Sunday for the week just doesn't cut it. Secondary school teacher here though.

Only got the email this evening so yes I think I might contact the school, I've to collect books there next week too.

Work assigned includes read a book for 30 minutes each day and go for a walk, some basic Irish, English, Maths work and four art projects. It's 5th class so it's not exactly junior infants so they'd be well able for something more structured.

Thankfully our secondary school has been fantastic with their efforts all the way throughout. From learning to parent communication they have been great.

wirelessdude01

Locotastic wrote: »

In those cases they still won't do exercise even if it's assigned by a teacher. I agree that's up to the parents to encourage and we make sure to do it every day here anyway.

Don't get me started in projects, they are a pain at the best of times but when everyone is trying to keep their s**t together and the show in the road.

I think you'll agree that time is better spent not spending hours doing stupid projects designed to keep kids busy and taking a photo of said project to upload.

I'll be trying to use what little motivation the kids have (they really don't enjoy home schoolwork) to cover basic learning after being out at work myself all day.

Four bloody projects assigned for the first week alone, give me strength.

I set mine some projects last year but set up a learning path on scoilnet, with links to information that they could research. Project had to be done on google slides and they had to incorporate audio. Really easy to do once they learned how to do it by messing around with it. Good skills to have going into secondary. I shared them all with the class using google drive and they also had to present them to the class over zoom using share screen.

The traditional type project is redundant in these circumstances as it creates additional stress at home.

teachinggal123

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

It’s possible the teacher is a home carer or a single parent with no childcare or something.

This is not an excuse.

Smacruairi wrote: »

Hey read your previous post. Have you contacted your teacher, or have several of you contacted your parent class rep to look for either live instruction, or prerecorded material to teach the kids at your own pace?

If so and they've said no, I'd go to the parent rep on your bom to ask for a revision of the remote learning plan for the school. At this stage, despite zero backing and support from the DES other than "set something up guys", they should have some sort of procedure ready. If not, they should have until the next board meeting to make one work.

A bit of polite, professional pressure, an email of a Sunday for the week just doesn't cut it. Secondary school teacher here though.

This is excellent advice. If anyone is getting the 'one email a week' crap I strongly advise doing exactly this.

teachinggal123

Locotastic wrote: »

Only got the email this evening so yes I think I might contact the school, I've to collect books there next week too.

Work assigned includes read a book for 30 minutes each day and go for a walk, some basic Irish, English, Maths work and four art projects. It's 5th class so it's not exactly junior infants so they'd be well able for something more structured.

Can someone clarify (as there seems to be some confusion about this) ... has the DES advised that there should be daily and 2-way communication from each teacher?

Or is that for secondary only?

beggars_bush

Locotastic wrote: »

Google forms daily check in, no live work at all.

I just hoped it would be better, my kids in primary really did not want to go back to home schooling after last year (it was basically the least bare amount of effort of one email a week) but I thought it would be different this time.

I am so frustrated and worried.

kids will bounce back
make sure you do something enjoyable WITH them everyday
read to them
talk to them
bake
paint or colour
role play

Sammy2012

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Can someone clarify (as there seems to be some confusion about this) ... has the DES advised that there should be daily and 2-way communication from each teacher?

Or is that for secondary only?

Daily contact is stated in the document from the department. Its up to the school to decide the form that takes.

mirrorwall14

teachinggal123 wrote: »

This is not an excuse.

It may not be an excuse but it is a possible explanation.

If they have no childcare or are a home carer without support what is the alternative for the children? No teacher at all? Because subs are nowhere to be found so if a teacher in that situation has to take unpaid leave then that’s where they’ll be.

I was clear that I do think there should at least be videos from the teacher explaining concepts even if live isn’t possible. Even with childcare issues etc they can be done at night as many of us did the last time double jobbing teaching and minding our kids.

teachinggal123

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

It may not be an excuse but it is a possible explanation.

If they have no childcare or are a home carer without support what is the alternative for the children? No teacher at all? Because subs are nowhere to be found so if a teacher in that situation has to take unpaid leave then that’s where they’ll be.

I was clear that I do think there should at least be videos from the teacher explaining concepts even if live isn’t possible. Even with childcare issues etc they can be done at night as many of us did the last time double jobbing teaching and minding our kids.

I'm not getting at you personally, but this is what gives teachers a bad name.

It is simply not acceptable to say a teacher cannot do his/her job because they have to be a carer or mind their own kids. If that is the case the teacher should take unpaid leave as you suggest.

The DES has said that there should be daily, 2-way contact between teacher and student. One email a week is certainly not that.

wirelessdude01

Round and round we go.

Those who have issues with what their school is offering should approach the class teacher if they have a means of contact, if no means or still not happy then contact the principal and if still not happy then contact one of the parent reps on the BOM to see what the remote learning policy states. Each school has to have one in place now after being ratified by the BOM.

Locotastic

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I set mine some projects last year but set up a learning path on scoilnet, with links to information that they could research. Project had to be done on google slides and they had to incorporate audio. Really easy to do once they learned how to do it by messing around with it. Good skills to have going into secondary. I shared them all with the class using google drive and they also had to present them to the class over zoom using share screen.

The traditional type project is redundant in these circumstances as it creates additional stress at home.

At least those are skills that are useful to have and there's interaction.

Making a rocket ship entirely from recyclable material (last time we had to make a viking longboat and a monastery using reusable waste and I say 'we' I mean me because his interest was gone out the window after 5 mins) I'm not so sure.

They do love arts and crafts but they will do it spontaneously when they feel like it.

Without teacher interaction I fear there will be no motivation for much to be done no matter how much I try to get them to do it. It ended in tears last May and I had to call a halt to it, result was we did nothing for the whole last month of school because it was just causing him stress.

mirrorwall14

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I'm not getting at you personally, but this is what gives teachers a bad name.

It is simply not acceptable to say a teacher cannot do his/her job because they have to be a carer or mind their own kids. If that is the case the teacher should take unpaid leave as you suggest.

The DES has said that there should be daily, 2-way contact between teacher and student. One email a week is certainly not that.

They are doing daily 2 way contact with the parent provided they reply to the google form. It’s not how I’d do it I know and I I would be complaining.

I have already said I believe the OP should be requesting more and I believe they will be. That is the exact route that needs to be gone down.

I have no idea why you are taking such personal offence to this. We have no idea what is going on in the household. None. You have no idea if ‘this’ is what gives teachers a bad name. The OP can ask for more and then see what comes back down the line. If it’s nothing then yes they can and absolutely should go down the complaints route

am_zarathustra

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

They are doing daily 2 way contact with the parent provided they reply to the google form. It’s not how I’d do it I know and I I would be complaining.

I have already said I believe the OP should be requesting more and I believe they will be. That is the exact route that needs to be gone down.

I have no idea why you are taking such personal offence to this. We have no idea what is going on in the household. None. You have no idea if ‘this’ is what gives teachers a bad name. The OP can ask for more and then see what comes back down the line. If it’s nothing then yes they can and absolutely should go down the complaints route

The irony of this poster being so indignant about others not doing their job should not be lost on anyone on the Teaching and Learning forum!

Solid advice to ask for more info on why a call or video explainations aren't an option. I think a few short videos are manageable for most regardless of childcare issue about maybe there is more going on

wirelessdude01

am_zarathustra wrote: »

The irony of this poster being so indignant about others not doing their job should not be lost on anyone on the Teaching and Learning forum!

Solid advice to ask for more info on why a call or video explainations aren't an option. I think a few short videos are manageable for most regardless of childcare issue about maybe there is more going on

There is a reason why they don't frequent the T&L forum anymore.

teachinggal123

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

They are doing daily 2 way contact with the parent provided they reply to the google form. It’s not how I’d do it I know and I I would be complaining.

Agreed.

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

We have no idea what is going on in the household. None. You have no idea if ‘this’ is what gives teachers a bad name. The OP can ask for more and then see what comes back down the line. If it’s nothing then yes they can and absolutely should go down the complaints route

I do think this gives teachers a bad name to be honest.

And I am referring to the numerous primary schools - including the large rural school where my sister sends her children - who did the one email a week thing during the last lockdown. I'm sorry if you are at odds with my opinion on this, but it is not acceptable to excuse teachers who send one email a week (I'm not saying you are doing this btw) even if they are carers or have their own childcare issues.

Sammy2012

Teachinggal how is your prep going this time round?

teachinggal123

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

There is a reason why they don't frequent the T&L forum anymore.

There is a specific reason, but we wont go into that here and drag the thread off topic (as you are trying to do)!

mirrorwall14

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Agreed.



I do think this gives teachers a bad name to be honest.

And I am referring to the numerous primary schools - including the large rural school where my sister sends her children - who did the one email a week thing during the last lockdown. I'm sorry if you are at odds with my opinion on this, but it is not acceptable to excuse teachers who send one email a week (I'm not saying you are doing this btw) even if they are carers or have their own childcare issues.

I did not excuse teachers who give one email a week anywhere. I have been quite clear that it is not on, and it is not even applicable here as the teacher is planning to communicate each day as per the DES guidelines. I may not like how they have interpreted the guidelines and I have advised the OP as such.

You have now moved to generalisations about schools and are referring to the last lockdown.

I’m done with this conversation.

teachinggal123

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Teachinggal how is your prep going this time round?

It's going well thanks. I'm learning from past mistakes and doing my best. the technology is tricky for me but I have help and I'm making a huge effort despite very unhelpful colleagues and a d1ck of a principal!

Dayo93

Our school primary is an email on a Sunday with daily breakdown and 2 X 30 min Zoom calls a week, if anything I feel more under pressure now than last lock down as 2 parents are working , I am shift so will potentially be compressing the work into 3 days and get the minder to do the zoom calls as they are more to see friends etc than classes

Str8outtaWuhan

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Can someone clarify (as there seems to be some confusion about this) ... has the DES advised that there should be daily and 2-way communication from each teacher?

Or is that for secondary only?

it seems very wooly and lots of wiggle room, the two way contact could be a letter in the post and a letter back right up to zoom classes, they both technically fit the criteria. I'm not expecting anything til tomorrow morning , I treasure my weekend and holidays and I wouldn't begrudge a teacher theirs.

wirelessdude01

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I did not excuse teachers who give one email a week anywhere. I have been quite clear that it is not on, and it is not even applicable here as the teacher is planning to communicate each day as per the DES guidelines. I may not like how they have interpreted the guidelines and I have advised the OP as such.

You have now moved to generalisations about schools and are referring to the last lockdown.

I’m done with this conversation.

Wonder will they refer to their own behaviour during the last school closure?

Everyone should see how schools and the teachers their kids interact with actually fare out this week. Give them a shot. You never know that you may be surprised. You can't go all gung-ho from the get go or you can scare both parents and students away.

Once again the guidelines that the DES are so wishy washy and are so open to interpretation that it is going to lead to scenarios where people aren't happy but the schools are actually abiding by what the DES laid out but not the spirit of it.

Funnily enough, I had two emails today saying that I am expecting too much live engagement and that it isn't fair on those children who have working parents. CANNOT WIN.

lulublue22

Dayo93 wrote: »

Our school primary is an email on a Sunday with daily breakdown and 2 X 30 min Zoom calls a week, if anything I feel more under pressure now than last lock down as 2 parents are working , I am shift so will potentially be compressing the work into 3 days and get the minder to do the zoom calls as they are more to see friends etc than classes

Please don’t stress . Teachers are very aware of the pressure parents are under and will understand if not everything is covered. Tbf you can see already from this thread that you can’t suit everybody and remote learning hasn’t actually started yet.

LenWoods

Top respect and goodnight to all the Múinteoir Mammy's starting there first day with the class of 2021 tomorrow morning,
Another feather in the cap as my father would say, 👍

Whenseptends

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/i-m-running-on-empty-mother-says-she-has-to-lie-to-son-with-autism-about-schools-not-reopening-1.4454629?mode=amp

Mother of Four. With a 15 year old autistic son.

"The last lockdown his anxiety levels shot through the roof. He went from being happy and easy going to flapping and hitting and repetitive talking. He followed me around all day asking questions. It was really hard going for him and I don’t want him to feel like that again if I tell him the schools are closed.

“Online learning doesn’t fulfil his social needs and structure. The Department of Education had time to plan in the event of another lockdown but it’s evident they have no plan B.”

She said lockdown means she is her son’s “sole source of stimulation, speech and language and occupational therapy. That’s not good for him or me. I’m running on empty.”

amacca

am_zarathustra wrote: »

The irony of this poster being so indignant about others not doing their job should not be lost on anyone on the Teaching and Learning forum!

Solid advice to ask for more info on why a call or video explainations aren't an option. I think a few short videos are manageable for most regardless of childcare issue about maybe there is more going on

I'd imagine you are correct but there is the issue of woefully slow internet connections in some areas

Uploading one video can take hours...if you say record 10 mins in stream and that results in a file size of spprox 100mb an then you use something like handbrake to compress that and you get it down to around 15-20mb and you are pleaded with yourself thinking your 2mb-4mb broadband won't be too long upload that .......only to find that the upload speed is severely restricted and much less than 2mb (much much less) and even uploading your compressed video will take hours ....now multiply that by 4/5 videos a day and you start to see how some may not be able to do these things efficiently if their line isn't up to it.......just something to consider for people.....dunno if it's an option to go into school? But then again that might represent a covid risk

Onthefence

My school are doing 2x30 min Zoom calls a day. I'd really love to know how the parents are feeling about that. Too much? Too little? I'm not the principal so I'm not allowed ask. Primary too.

Dayo93 wrote: »

Our school primary is an email on a Sunday with daily breakdown and 2 X 30 min Zoom calls a week, if anything I feel more under pressure now than last lock down as 2 parents are working , I am shift so will potentially be compressing the work into 3 days and get the minder to do the zoom calls as they are more to see friends etc than classes

wirelessdude01

Onthefence wrote: »

My school are doing 2x30 min Zoom calls a day. I'd really love to know how the parents are feeling about that. Too much? Too little? I'm not the principal so I'm not allowed ask. Primary too.

Are they scheduled at the same time every day? What are they to be used for?

Onthefence

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Are they scheduled at the same time every day? What are they to be used for?

Yes, same time every day.
Teaching, reading, check-ins etc

am_zarathustra

amacca wrote: »

I'd imagine you are correct but there is the issue of woefully slow internet connections in some areas

Uploading one video can take hours...if you say record 10 mins in stream and that results in a file size of spprox 100mb an then you use something like handbrake to compress that and you get it down to around 15-20mb and you are pleaded with yourself thinking your 2mb-4mb broadband won't be too long upload that .......only to find that the upload speed is severely restricted and much less than 2mb (much much less) and even uploading your compressed video will take hours ....now multiply that by 4/5 videos a day and you start to see how some may not be able to do these things efficiently if their line isn't up to it.......just something to consider for people.....dunno if it's an option to go into school? But then again that might represent a covid risk

Rural broadband is absolutely a consideration for some people, totally correct. I wonder would a voice call or just a voiceover a very simple powerpoint work?

Has anyone heard of schools being open, it was mooted but I couldn't see anything concrete in the circular that was released. If staff could even go a couple of times a week to upload it might help!

Sammy2012

am_zarathustra wrote: »

Rural broadband is absolutely a consideration for some people, totally correct. I wonder would a voice call or just a voiceover a very simple powerpoint work?

Has anyone heard of schools being open, it was mooted but I couldn't see anything concrete in the circular that was released. If staff could even go a couple of times a week to upload it might help!

My broadband at home is much better than my broadband in school.

wirelessdude01

Onthefence wrote: »

Yes, same time every day.
Teaching, reading, check-ins etc

Be interesting to see how parents of those kids who cannot login at those times respond to their children being left behind due to live teaching.

wirelessdude01

am_zarathustra wrote: »

Rural broadband is absolutely a consideration for some people, totally correct. I wonder would a voice call or just a voiceover a very simple powerpoint work?

Has anyone heard of schools being open, it was mooted but I couldn't see anything concrete in the circular that was released. If staff could even go a couple of times a week to upload it might help!

I know that we have been told that we will only be allowed access to the building once a week. Only one person at a time and has to be run though the principal.

am_zarathustra

Onthefence wrote: »

Yes, same time every day.
Teaching, reading, check-ins etc

I remember being in 1st class and twice a week our teacher (a nun) and her best friend (another nun, in a wheelchair so not teaching full time but used to come to our classes) read Roald Dahl books to us for an hour. It was everyone's favourite part of the week, when I meet adults I was in school with we still talk about it. They did voices and we all started reading the easier books ourselves then. It might not seem like much but even a familiar voice reading a book for half an hour could be brilliant. I remember almost nothing else from that year, just how much I loved those days and how they absolutely gave me a real love of books that I keep to this day

Sammy2012

am_zarathustra wrote: »

I remember being in 1st class and twice a week our teacher (a nun) and her best friend (another nun, in a wheelchair so not teaching full time but used to come to our classes) read Roald Dahl books to us for an hour. It was everyone's favourite part of the week, when I meet adults I was in school with we still talk about it. They did voices and we all started reading the easier books ourselves then. It might not seem like much but even a familiar voice reading a book for half an hour could be brilliant. I remember almost nothing else from that year, just how much I loved those days and how they absolutely gave me a real love of books that I keep to this day

Thats a lobely idea. And one i might use on seesaw.

Onthefence

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Be interesting to see how parents of those kids who cannot login at those times respond to their children being left behind due to live teaching.

Only one of my many issues with it. The children whose parents aren't worried at all concern me equally.

wirelessdude01

Onthefence wrote: »

Only one of my many issues with it. The children whose parents aren't worried at all concern me equally.

I'm doing live at the same time every day but it's more check-ins and correction of mental maths. A video of me correcting the mental maths will be uploaded for those who cannot join.

BonsaiKitten

Onthefence wrote: »

My school are doing 2x30 min Zoom calls a day. I'd really love to know how the parents are feeling about that. Too much? Too little? I'm not the principal so I'm not allowed ask. Primary too.

2x30 mins for all classes? Or is it just for one age group? You'd imagine 6th class would have very different needs to JI (can't imagine trying to manage a whole class of infants in one video call!).

as_mo_bhosca

I have just seen a few posts suggesting that if a parent is not happy with the way work is being laid out by their school, to contact the parent rep on the BOM.
Do not do this.
This is not the correct way to address any issues. This is not the role of the parent representative on the BOM. The parent reps are representative of the parent body and not there to take opinions, complaints, etc of the parents.
The correct way to deal with any issue is to first contact your child's class teacher. If not happy after that your then contact the principal. Only after these avenues have been exhausted, can you contact the chairperson of the BOM.
The parent reps on the BOM should not entertain any such contact. There are agreed procedures in place for a reason. If I was a principal and something was brought to the BOM this way, I would completely dismiss it and inform everyone involved to do things through the proper channels.
Source: I was a principal for 8 years in a primary school.

Onthefence

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

2x30 mins for all classes? Or is it just for one age group? You'd imagine 6th class would have very different needs to JI (can't imagine trying to manage a whole class of infants in one video call!).

That's what the BOM ratified across the board

Onthefence

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I'm doing live at the same time every day but it's more check-ins and correction of mental maths. A video of me correcting the mental maths will be uploaded for those who cannot join.

I already know that's what our calls will end up being and
I'm ready to stand over that when I'm questioned.

downthemiddle

Onthefence wrote: »

My school are doing 2x30 min Zoom calls a day. I'd really love to know how the parents are feeling about that. Too much? Too little? I'm not the principal so I'm not allowed ask. Primary too.

Lunacy. Will there always be an adult present with each child for child protection purposes?

byhookorbycrook

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I've a story for you all. Earlier in this school year when we were back in school. Parent sent a colleague of mine an email while she was teaching. She obviously didn't see it. Secretary arrives to her door telling her that said parent was on the phone spitting blood as she hadn't replied. This was ten minutes after the email had been sent. Some have no sense.

I can beat that- small rural school, secretary part time, principal teaching . A Grandparent rang the school and left a voicemail between breaks. They rang back less than 30 minutes later threatening that they would " talk to Joe" if the principal didn't respond before two. By sheer chance, principal checked the school voicemail. Rang the parent of the child explaining that a) they had only received the message and b) the grandparent wasn't the child's guardian. Parent mortified, rang the grandparent, who then rang the school back to say it wasn't the school's place to ring the child's parent. Where do you even start with that one?

thomasdylan

jrosen wrote: »

Well the absolute **** show of an email from our school.

Basically how tired and fed up everyone is, how we are not to send emails in the evening or weekends to the teachers. How this time round will be worse.

Us to decide to how long the kids work for, how they work, where they work.
No mention of teachers, no stream lined approach. He’s a waste of space and I’ve said from the day he stayed he came to our school to sit out his years untill retirement.

I am lucky my child’s teacher has gone and set his own path but for any teacher who chooses not too or has a half arsed attempt it’s evident there will be no guidance/enforcement from the top.
It was the same last time round.

The principal contacting to say emails will only be replied to during office/school hours is completely reasonable.

Were they talking about staff or everyone (teachers, parents,students) being tired and fed up? If they are emailing saying how tired and fed up staff are it seems very unprofessional.

amacca

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Be interesting to see how parents of those kids who cannot login at those times respond to their children being left behind due to live teaching.

Yeah this push for live every class is very counter productive imo.........if it was me I'd do exactly what they ask but I wouldn't be dealing with the issues caused by it, if they dont want to give autonomy and flexibility to teachers and then stdudents/patents in turn then they can deal with the fallout of their actions.......if you can't access the live teaching or use the recorded videos then contact management/department that's the way they insisted it had to happen so cest la vie

It's amusing in a way because its not as if students and parents didn't complain about the workload and stress of classes exactly to timetable last time out (at least in my OHs place....citing poor internet, parents using connection at time for WFH, kid stressed out with all the work, parent stressed out trying to get kid yo do work, parent in one case annoyed that kid wasn't getting time to take care of a litter of particularly expensive puppies - I **** you not )....they requested flexibility and reduced volume of work etc ....and many of the patents of the more academic ones wanted a unit of work at the start of the week clear directions and let the kid work and check in once midweek with questions then submit and feedback

And here dept and eager to please management instead of learning a lesson jump right in again with the live classes with timetable when it just doesn't suit the method of deliver .....at least that's how it appears to me anyway so I say let them have it best way when a plan is flawed (and probably for the wrong reasons) is implement it to the letter of its I'll thought out silliness and let it fall flat on its face.

Mrsmum

Is anyone else's school not starting back like ours till Tuesday ? Teacher planning day tomorrow.