Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

Mrsmum

km79 wrote: »

I don’t see mocks going ahead in a lot of schools

Today is the last day I am supposed to have LC and JC mocks for sons paid for. Emailed school on Fri to see should I hold off and got reply back to pay anyway. I'm reluctant to do so as I have no faith in them happening.

Locotastic

Mrsmum wrote: »

Today is the last day I am supposed to have LC and JC mocks for sons paid for. Emailed school on Fri to see should I hold off and got reply back to pay anyway. I'm reluctant to do so as I have no faith in them happening.

Me personally, I wouldn't be paying them until there's more clarity. Very unlikely mocks will go ahead at this point.

I doubt you'd be the only one not paying.

wirelessdude01

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Some kind of mock is advisable as they'd get some shock if faced with full papers for first time ever if they get to sit LC, which is looking unlikely

They won't be faced with the "traditional" set of exams anyway.

wirelessdude01

Mrsmum wrote: »

Today is the last day I am supposed to have LC and JC mocks for sons paid for. Emailed school on Fri to see should I hold off and got reply back to pay anyway. I'm reluctant to do so as I have no faith in them happening.

I wouldn't be paying anyway. If they do go ahead in some form are they going to deny your child the opportunity to sit them?

PoolDude

billy_beckham wrote: »

Luke O'Neill
@laoneill111
Important study from Norway- limited transmission of Covid19 in primary schools: ‘minimal child-to-child and child-to-adult transmission in primary schools...limited role of children in transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in school settings’

I want this to be good news but very small sample size, dates from last August to November and no evidence of the latest strains which are more transmissable make it somewhat irrelevant.

deiseindublin

13 cases is too small a study to put any weight in.

combat14

sounds like all the schools can reopen at the end of feb from all the talk tonight?

km79

combat14 wrote: »

sounds like all the schools can reopen at the end of feb from all the talk tonight?

Phased

Treppen

Mrsmum wrote: »

Today is the last day I am supposed to have LC and JC mocks for sons paid for. Emailed school on Fri to see should I hold off and got reply back to pay anyway. I'm reluctant to do so as I have no faith in them happening.

If it's a phased return with 6th years in first then, mocks are top priority. They are in our school anyway. As has been said by many teachers, they'll be reluctant to do any predictive grading without some type of comprehensive exam... and that's mocks. At least most teachers had that last year.
Monthly tests can only go so far (nevermind the ones students missed in class and did at home and miraculously aced 100%).

It would be a foolish parent who tells their child that mocks probably won't go ahead, or even started to spread the rumour to other parents.

There's still learning to be done leaving cert or not. See out the year and course as best you can.

billy_beckham

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

So

Monday 22nd 1st day after midterm
3 full weeks

March 17th Paddys day 4 day week

then

1 week teaching

Easter Holidays 2 week off

April 12th 1st day of last term

3 weeks full teaching

May bank holiday long weekend 3/4 day week depending if schools are taking extra day

4 full weeks til summer holidays

not exactly a long stretch for the LC to get orals, projects and practicals done all assuming LC back full time on the 22nd Feb( snowballs chance!!)

Is there any chance of them looking at the holidays ie pulling some of them into Feb to try and make up for lost time?

(Nobody reply telling me they haven't...... Online "teaching" does not equal class based)

hesaidshesaid

billy_beckham wrote: »

Is there any chance of them looking at the holidays ie pulling some of them into Feb to try and make up for lost time?

(Nobody reply telling me they haven't...... Online "teaching" does not equal class based)

If by 'they' you mean the DES, it's worth putting it to them.

km79

Jesus here we go again

billy_beckham

hesaidshesaid wrote: »

If by 'they' you mean the DES, it's worth putting it to them.

By 'they' I mean the education partners that are doing the talking..

The DES are not running the show at the moment...

combat14

billy_beckham wrote: »

Is there any chance of them looking at the holidays ie pulling some of them into Feb to try and make up for lost time?

(Nobody reply telling me they haven't...... Online "teaching" does not equal class based)

what lost time?!

vast majority of schools are live streaming classes all during lock down

Locotastic

combat14 wrote: »

what lost time?!

vast majority of schools are live streaming classes all during lock down

Vast majority? How would you know what other schools are and aren't doing outside of your own experience.

Students are missing out all over the country and there are schools that are doing minimal to no live work currently.

I don't think teachers should lose holidays because of it as there are some who have to now work harder than ever.

Nothing will ever be done about the teachers who didn't.

khalessi

billy_beckham wrote: »

Is there any chance of them looking at the holidays ie pulling some of them into Feb to try and make up for lost time?

(Nobody reply telling me they haven't...... Online "teaching" does not equal class based)

If you dont count online teaching as teaching then that decision should have been made at the outset so I would say no chance of it happening.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

Students are missing out all over the country and there are schools that are doing minimal to no live work currently.

How would you know what other schools are and aren't doing outside of your own experience.

Locotastic

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

How would you know what other schools are and aren't doing outside of your own experience.

That is my experience across two schools, some aren't doing live work and thats a fact.

I never claimed to know what other schools were doing or that a "vast majority" were or weren't doing anything.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

That is my experience across two schools, some aren't doing live work and thats a fact.

I never claimed to know what other schools were doing or that a "vast majority" were or weren't doing anything.

What does "all over the country" mean then?

Locotastic

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

What does "all over the country" mean then?

You think that every school in every county is streaming live work every day?

Now I don't think my local schools are the exception. Although I certainly wouldn't claim that the vast majority are not doing anything live.

Considering that both my local primary and secondary are not then I would consider that there are some more like them.

Nobody can claim that live teaching is being done by the vast majority simply because nobody knows.

There are children missing out all over the country, even when the option is made available, online learning isn't suitable for all.

History Queen

Locotastic wrote: »

Vast majority? How would you know what other schools are and aren't doing outside of your own experience.

Students are missing out all over the country and there are schools that are doing minimal to no live work currently.

I don't think teachers should lose holidays because of it as there are some who have to now work harder than ever.

Nothing will ever be done about the teachers who didn't.

Live work isn't necessarily the best work. It seems that people want to see it happening but in our school at least the kids and parents don't want it every class as it's too hard to coordinate with their home lives. Pre recorded with teachers available during school hours was the preference in our survey followed by some lives.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

Nobody can claim that live teaching is being done by the vast majority simply because nobody knows.

There are children missing out all over the country,

If you can't see how one statement contradicts the other......

downthemiddle

Locotastic wrote: »

You think that every school in every county is streaming live work every day?

Now I don't think my local schools are the exception. Although I certainly wouldn't claim that the vast majority are not doing anything live.

Considering that both my local primary and secondary are not then I would consider that there are some more like them.

Nobody can claim that live teaching is being done by the vast majority simply because nobody knows.

There are children missing out all over the country, even when the option is made available, online learning isn't suitable for all.

So in your opinion no live streaming equates to missing out.

wirelessdude01

km79 wrote: »

Jesus here we go again

Teachers should have no holidays until 2030 just to satisfy some randomer on the interweb and twitter. Let the kids have holidays but make those lazy teachers "make up time".

Locotastic

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If you can't see how one statement contradicts the other......

It's not contradictory, there are children missing out, that's a FACT. It is not a claim or my opinion, nobody can deny that children are missing out.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Locotastic wrote: »

It's not contradictory, there are children missing out, that's a FACT. It is not a claim or my opinion, nobody can deny that children are missing out.

Caps lock doesn't make it a fact I'm afraid

Locotastic

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Caps lock doesn't make it a fact I'm afraid

So there aren't children who are missing out?

Everyone is just hunky dory is that what you think?

Crocodile Booze

Locotastic wrote: »

So there aren't children who are missing out?

Everybody is "missing out" on lots of things. It's a global emergency.

I'm a contractor. I'm "missing out". My employees are "missing out".

It's a pandemic.

billy_beckham

combat14 wrote: »

what lost time?!

vast majority of schools are live streaming classes all during lock down

billy_beckham wrote: »

Is there any chance of them looking at the holidays ie pulling some of them into Feb to try and make up for lost time?

(Nobody reply telling me they haven't...... Online "teaching" does not equal class based)

I can only go by what I see in my house....what is being done is not the same quality or quantity of what would be covered if they were in school. Do the teachers on here really think that live streaming equals what would get done in a classroom??

Time may not be lost, but education and development is suffering...

Locotastic

Crocodile Booze wrote: »

Everybody is "missing out" on lots of things. It's a global emergency.

I'm a contractor. I'm "missing out". My employees are "missing out".

It's a pandemic.

Yes I know that's exactly my point, it is a fact that there are children missing out.