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UK Air travel suspended for 48 hours from midnight *Mod Warning in OP Please Read*

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    #212
    [Deleted User]
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    It can only spread twice as fast if twice as many people are allowing it to spread.

    The restrictions and guidelines in the UK are a shambles, that’s the main problem.

    If it spreads twice as fast,surely this will.mean the death toll will at a minimum double,or worse if healthcare systems collaspe??



    For this UK government,a noted group of liers,to come out and say its out of control should be sending alarm bells ringing and anyone who landed here from UK last 10 days should be contacted in the morning to present for a covid test

    Time to use these passenger locator forms


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    #213
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GarIT wrote: »
    Doesn't work like that. In any interaction it is 70% more likely to spread then the original. There is no way we can eliminate all contact. People still need groceries, people still have medical appointments.

    That’s simply not true.


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    #214
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Indestructable wrote: »
    Spain doesn't suspend flights. Strange decision from them, guess they need the tourists over Christmas/New Years. A few travel groups I belong to are full of Brits eager to get away. PCR test is needed.

    Spain should be subject to same flight restrictions until they do


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    #215
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Does anyone think this has to do with a no deal brexit?. Timing is not coincidental. Do a deal NOW OR ELSE, see what happens

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



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    #216
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GreeBo wrote: »
    , it spreads twice as fast if it's twice as contagious.

    It can be a hundred times more ‘contagious’ but it can only spread as much as the restrictions allow, or the people ignoring the restrictions allow.


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    #217
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Does anyone think this has to do with a no deal brexit?. Timing is not coincidental. Do a deal NOW OR ELSE, see what happens

    Nothing to do with Brexit whatsoever.


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    #218
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Does anyone think this has to do with a no deal brexit?. Timing is not coincidental. Do a deal NOW OR ELSE, see what happens

    Yeah, the UK invented this strain and put themselves in Tier 4 lockdown so that the EU would shut its borders and force them into doing a deal.


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    #219
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    That’s simply not true.

    Do you have a study or something that says that? Because the study I've read and only one I'm aware of says that's the case. The results could be wrong. It could be as the conspiracy theorists are saying a trick by the UK to cover up their lack of prevention measures. If it is accurate we are well and truly ****ed.


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    #220
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Does anyone think this has to do with a no deal brexit?. Timing is not coincidental. Do a deal NOW OR ELSE, see what happens

    No


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    #221
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,067 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Does anyone think this has to do with a no deal brexit?. Timing is not coincidental. Do a deal NOW OR ELSE, see what happens

    No. Cancelling Christmas is the one thing no politician would ever be stupid enough to do.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #222
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    It can be a hundred times more ‘contagious’ but it can only spread as much as the restrictions allow, or the people ignoring the restrictions allow.

    Two people in a room for 10 minutes and one has it. Previously there was a 50% chance of the other getting it. Now there's an 85% chance of the other getting it.


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    #223
    DulchieLaois
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭DulchieLaois


    About 2 months ago, I was told by a paramedic friend that there are 3 strains of COVID 19, Italian, English and Chinese ....its only this week the English one is being mentioned by media, it’s scary to think that this is something that was known by a certain number and yet the general population only learn about this now


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    #224
    bucketybuck
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    iamnotme wrote: »
    I think the news of the French suspension of "human-handled freight" is somewhat going under the radar at the moment, at least in the British media. Already enough hassle at Channel ports, Brexit and now this. Obvious implications for Irish supply chains.

    https://www.cityam.com/new-france-bans-all-travel-from-the-uk-including-truck-and-lorry-drivers/

    There are a lot of sanctimonious people sitting in comfort tapping away on their keyboards lambasting others for not fully isolating themselves in their bedrooms for years on end.

    They will probably never understand that if everybody did what they suggest that the world simply would no longer function. Those keyboard heroes would be well served to look into their fridges and cupboards and wonder what would happen if all those things stopped coming.


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    #225
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,128 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Spain should be subject to same flight restrictions until they do

    Agreed, we should stop any travel from countries that are allowing UK travel, otherwise any been is pointless.


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    #226
    [Deleted User]
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    I never thought about all those continental drivers who are stuck on this side of the English Channel. This is a complete mess.


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    #227
    Dunfyy
    Site Banned Posts: 113 ✭✭Dunfyy


    My friend has a Private jet and the rules don't apply to a private jet.
    We are off to harrods to do the Christmas shopping.


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    #228
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GarIT wrote: »
    Do you have a study or something that says that? Because the study I've read and only one I'm aware of says that's the case. The results could be wrong. It could be as the conspiracy theorists are saying a trick by the UK to cover up their lack of prevention measures. If it is accurate we are well and truly ****ed.

    You need to re- read it so, because all the information put the POSSIBLE ability of the virus to be more transmittable at UP TO 70%.

    That means it could be 1% or it could be 69%.

    The information was only released and hasn’t been tested or verified, it all comes with a major caveat.

    What is still true however is that Covid spreads from person to person, no mutation so far has changed that.

    What’s also true is that the UK levels of restrictions have not been good enough, and they changed them while numbers were to high.


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    #229
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    GarIT wrote: »
    Two people in a room for 10 minutes and one has it. Previously there was a 50% chance of the other getting it. Now there's an 85% chance of the other getting it.


    Putting it like that you can see how big a problem this could be. Better roll out the vaccine as soon as we can, as many as possible in as short a time as possible. Defense force involvement whatever.


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    #230
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,128 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    It can be a hundred times more ‘contagious’ but it can only spread as much as the restrictions allow, or the people ignoring the restrictions allow.

    That's like saying that petrol is only flammable if you set fire to it.. To a room full of people holding lighters.


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    #231
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Dunfyy wrote: »
    My friend has a Private jet and the rules don't apply to a private jet.
    We are off to harrods to do the Christmas shopping.



    Will you get me fags in Duty free please.


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    #232
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GreeBo wrote: »
    That's like saying that petrol is only flammable if you set fire to it.. To a room full of people holding lighters.

    No.
    It’s nothing like that.


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    #233
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,128 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Spreads twice as fast, but only to Brits. Again, are we seeing people drop dead in the streets (remember Wuhan and Italy). Who controls the tests?... the same people that control the lock-downs. A PCR test CAN BE MANIPULATED to give THE RESULT YOU WANT. The same test at 30 cycles comes back NEGATIVE, but at 40 cycles, it comes back POSITIVE.

    Remember, they want to install FEAR in the populace, inject you with a saline/placebo vaccine, tell you it works (by manipulating the test results) and a month or two later tell you about a new strain, and lock you down for life.

    How many people here can ACTUALLY relay a story of ANYONE who died from covid, that did not have underlying issues nor was (excuse the phrase) at end of life, anyway.

    For the few that will fight me on the above, in an average year, how many people die from no reason or who should not be expected to die?

    Is this year any different than any of the last 10 years? or is it all a scam/plan?

    So in your opinion the entire world is reacting to covid because...?


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    #234
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GarIT wrote: »
    Two people in a room for 10 minutes and one has it. Previously there was a 50% chance of the other getting it. Now there's an 85% chance of the other getting it.



    That’s simply not true either.


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    #235
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    DulchieLaois wrote: »
    About 2 months ago, I was told by a paramedic friend that there are 3 strains of COVID 19, Italian, English and Chinese ....its only this week the English one is being mentioned by media, it’s scary to think that this is something that was known by a certain number and yet the general population only learn about this now

    He is pulling your leg, there are hundreds or thousands of strains. And it has been publicly known for a long time.


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    #236
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    That’s simply not true either.

    Link?


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    #237
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,882 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Boris going to hold a Cobra meeting, looking for a cure.

    Dunno if Cobra is the answer

    https://streamable.com/cmjxcv


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    #238
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Hopefully there will be no repatriation. Stay where you are.

    Disgusting and uncalled for comment.


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    #239
    LuasSimon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Could be a number of weeks of flight bans from or to the UK


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    #240
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    GarIT wrote: »
    Link?

    Your the one making ridiculous Statements.
    Back up your own nonsense with a link to whatever dailymail rubbish your reading.


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    #241
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Looks like the roads out of NI will be very busy over the next couple days.


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