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Three dead as woman beheaded in France

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    #692
    CharlesMartel
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    jmreire wrote: »
    Really?? Well, TBH, in some Country's I've been in, it's possible ( Iran being one) but in other's? Forget it. Not going to happen...... A colleague of mine of several years standing, invited me to his home for a meal. Throughout the whole meal, I never once got to see his Wife or Daughters who had cooked it. His Son served it and took away the dishes. On a flight from Heathrow to Islamabad, I went to my assigned seat in the centre 4 seat section of the plane. One Bourka clad lady was already seated in the outer seat.So I took my seat, 2nd one from the Aisle. Passenger Nr 3 arrived, also wearing a Bourka, and took her seat between myself and Passenger Nr 1., Then passenger Nr 4 arrived,,again wearing a Bourka,,so there I was, sitting between 3 Bourka clad Ladies, and wondering what was going to happen next.....then a bearded Pakistani Gentleman, dressed in traditional Pakistani clothing arrived and after the usual "Assalam Alaikum" he got down to business. Perhaps, I might be more comfortable in another seat? So I said, yes, where do you want me to sit? And he said " anywhere you like on the plane, window/ isle front or rear" its your choice. Alhamdulillah !!! So I made my choice, and he said, One moment Please. And few moment later he was back to escort me to my new seat. So insisting on meeting and chatting to the Ladies? Good Luck with that. If you do visit an Islamic Country, make sure you have sussed out the attitude to its women. It can be an eye-opener.
    Speaking about treatment of women. Can you imagine living in a culture (eg Quatar), who thought its a great idea to take random women off a plane and examine them internally and not one person said no, from the airport officials to the doctor carrying out the exam.


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    #693
    CharlesMartel
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    Danzy wrote: »
    At election time we often see Labour MPs in England talking in Islamic centres, all the women on one side, the men on the other.

    Offered a seat one time to a Muslim woman who was standing. The 2 men with her freaked out.

    Mad the weird **** we have to pretend is progressive.
    And the same uk labor party dispenced with the usual party members selecting a candidate and instead asked the local muslim elders


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    #694
    Himpy5
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    3 more arrested in France relating to the attack.

    Includes a 62 year old and 25 year old.
    Intergenerational terrorists

    Which attack?

    Not being funny


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    #695
    [Deleted User]
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    https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon


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    #696
    jmreire
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    CharlesMartel wrote: »
    Yes a conservative controlling culture , who base their behaviour on that of a stealing,murdering, desert warlord. The main miracle with Islam is not that so many adherents kill, but so few actually do. That said minorities in Muslim countries get treated appallingly ,so one wonders if all these moderate muslims ever have domininion over us, will they treat us well or will we be enslaved and murdered?

    That will all depend on what version of Islam the local Imam is following. And as mentioned above, not all Imam's or indeed Muslims in general are blood thirsty. But having said that, Christians and other minorities in Islamic Country's are often treated very badly. For a Muslim, the very fact that he is a Muslim, automatically make's him superior to non-Muslims. And this of course changes his attitude when dealing with non-Muslims.


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    #697
    CharlesMartel
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    jmreire wrote: »
    That will all depend on what version of Islam the local Imam is following. And as mentioned above, not all Imam's or indeed Muslims in general are blood thirsty. But having said that, Christians and other minorities in Islamic Country's are often treated very badly. For a Muslim, the very fact that he is a Muslim, automatically make's him superior to non-Muslims. And this of course changes his attitude when dealing with non-Muslims.
    Even the mildest form of Islam has dhimmitide at its heart. The best you can hope for is to pay loads of extra taxes but gain nothing back in return except to be left alone. We literally become cash cows with barely any rights and laughable legal protections under sharia.


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    #698
    Kaybaykwah
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    I can only imagine Turkey joining the EU club, with Schengen. Poor Europe.


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    #699
    jmreire
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    CharlesMartel wrote: »
    Speaking about treatment of women. Can you imagine living in a culture (eg Quatar), who thought its a great idea to take random women off a plane and examine them internally and not one person said no, from the airport officials to the doctor carrying out the exam.

    But this time was a little different, it was 13 Australian women that were sexually assaulted, and they not only spoke out about it, they complained to their Government and official complaints were raised. Since then, the Qutar Government have apologised and an investigation has begun into what happened and how it even happened. But that they would even think of taking a course of action like this, says a lot about their mindset. We haven't heard the end of this yet..


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    CharlesMartel
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    jmreire wrote: »
    But this time was a little different, it was 13 Australian women that were sexually assaulted, and they not only spoke out about it, they complained to their Government and official complaints were raised. Since then, the Qutar Government have apologised and an investigation has begun into what happened and how it even happened. But that they would even think of taking a course of action like this, says a lot about their mindset. We haven't heard the end of this yet..
    The Qatari government launchin an investigation and firing employees is just PR dressing for us dummies. The fired lads will either be given alternate plum jobs, paid off, or be back at work in the airport later. if a dhimmi had sexually assaulted a muslim women in the Gulf, we would be sent to chop-chop-square the next friday after prayers. Not one country has expelled any qatari diplomant. A proportionate response would be to revoke all visas for qatari nationals effective immediately.


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    #701
    Mad_maxx
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    jmreire wrote: »
    Nail on the head...and exactly the same as my own experience from working and living in Islamic Country's. Individually they will be relaxed and outward , even western looking, and in the privacy of their own homes, even have a drink ( something most of them they don't have problem with when they are in Europe or other non-islamic Country's) But it's only skin deep for the majority of them. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim, no matter where they are. For a practising Muslim, Islam is the most important thing in their live's,,,in fact, it's the only thing. Integration? forget it !!! The ultimate aim is the spread of Islam, and its mainly happening in Democratic Country's.

    dont worry , the progressive left will ensure all of them turn into social democrat and green party voters

    after all , they know best and the muslims will listen to them


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    #702
    Danzy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

    So they win.


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    #703
    [Deleted User]
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    biko wrote: »
    Brazil names Nice knife attack victim as Simone Barreto Silva
    Woman, 44, had lived in France for three decades and worked as carer for elderly
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/brazil-names-nice-knife-attack-victim-as-simone-barreto-silva

    RIP
    Reminds me Yosuke Sasaki who was killed in Dundalk by another fine presumably doctor/engineer. Tragic when people who travel halfway across the world to actually improve their lives are slain by scum ferried in by their host country.
    Danzy wrote: »
    So they win.
    Yup. It's too late already tbh, the self-loathing of Europeans is the death of the culture. I've noticed that all my friends on Facebook etc. who had a great time with Everybody Draw Mohammed Day a decade or so ago are awfully quiet these days.


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    #704
    Sand
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    Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.


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    #705
    screamer
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    Danzy wrote: »
    So they win.

    Belgium is a basket case altogether when it comes to Muslims. They started to get elected into councils there, next thing they wanted Arabic declared an official language of Belgium and even wanted the street signs to Arabic.


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    #706
    Frankie Machine
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    Sand wrote: »
    Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.

    The change required is not of mindset.

    It is of demographics.


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    #707
    Frankie Machine
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Frankie Machine


    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

    Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.


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    #708
    Sand
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    Frankie Machine wrote: »
    The change required is not of mindset.

    It is of demographics.

    Mindset is more important. Europeans have yet to be outnumbered in their own homelands so they have the numbers. It's mindset that's allowing the conditions for these attacks to occur.


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    #709
    TRANQUILLO
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    Frankie Machine wrote: »
    Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.

    Molenbeek is an absolute toilet.


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    #710
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

    Harsh but saved his life


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    #711
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    jmreire wrote: »
    That will all depend on what version of Islam the local Imam is following. And as mentioned above, not all Imam's or indeed Muslims in general are blood thirsty. But having said that, Christians and other minorities in Islamic Country's are often treated very badly. For a Muslim, the very fact that he is a Muslim, automatically make's him superior to non-Muslims. And this of course changes his attitude when dealing with non-Muslims.

    It's too horrific to even remember what happened to the Yazidis in the last few years
    We could be next


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    #712
    GT89
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    screamer wrote: »
    Belgium is a basket case altogether when it comes to Muslims. They started to get elected into councils there, next thing they wanted Arabic declared an official language of Belgium and even wanted the street signs to Arabic.

    There is a Sharia Law party that ran candiates for election in Belgium


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    #713
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Reminds me Yosuke Sasaki who was killed in Dundalk by another fine presumably doctor/engineer. Tragic when people who travel halfway across the world to actually improve their lives are slain by scum ferried in by their host country.

    Yup. It's too late already tbh, the self-loathing of Europeans is the death of the culture. I've noticed that all my friends on Facebook etc. who had a great time with Everybody Draw Mohammed Day a decade or so ago are awfully quiet these days.

    Kind of sick to repeat this but a good friend of mine is a songwriter /musician

    Last week he sent me his new song about the oppression of muslims and how evil trump is

    The very next day the lady was beheaded in the church in France.

    He has maintained radio silence since
    Awkward


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    #714
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    Sand wrote: »
    Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.

    I agree. We shouldn't childishly troll them. We should outright tell them their belief that they are entitled to kill for being offended is not acceptable and we should mercilessly make fun of that belief.


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    #715
    GT89
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    Frankie Machine wrote: »
    Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.

    The South Circular Road, Clanbrassil Street area of Dublin is quickly becoming like the Molenbeek of Dublin


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    #716
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    Himpy5 wrote: »
    Kind of sick to repeat this but a good friend of mine is a songwriter /musician

    Last week he sent me his new song about the oppression of muslims and how evil trump is

    The very next day the lady was beheaded in the church in France.

    He has maintained radio silence since
    Awkward

    He should release it. I mean that guy must've faced some incredible oppression from the kafir in the space of two days to drive him to it.


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    #717
    440Hertz
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    Kaybaykwah wrote: »
    I can only imagine Turkey joining the EU club, with Schengen. Poor Europe.

    Oddly enough it was always the U.K. pushing that. Even after Brexit they lobbied for it while they were still in the EU.

    Given the Greek and Cypriot views on Turkey and the fact it’s drifting away from being a liberal democracy and into autocratic rule, as well as the issues it has been having upsetting NATO, throwing agressive statements at the French and so on, it’s very very unlikely Turkey will be an EU member.


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    #718
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He should release it. I mean that guy must've faced some incredible oppression from the kafir in the space of two days to drive him to it.

    I have a copy of the track on my phone
    But I shouldn't release it


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    #719
    [Deleted User]
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    Himpy5 wrote: »
    I have a copy of the track on my phone
    But I shouldn't release it

    I think you should. You'll lose some friends though. :pac:


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    #720
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I think you should. You'll lose some friends though. :pac:

    Honestly very tempted but not worth losing a friend over


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    #721
    [Deleted User]
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    Himpy5 wrote: »
    Honestly very tempted but not worth losing a friend over

    If a load of people have a copy then send it to me and you'll have plausible deniability. :pac:


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