Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Golfman64

tayto lover wrote: »

Anyone know if the golf courses are to close?

Not confirmed yet but I would imagine likely to be closed. There would be too much resentment from those who can't play other sports or live outside 5K. Ridiculous but given the sledgehammer approach being taken in general to restrictions and the head in the sand attitude to mental and physical health aside from Covid, I can't see it being allowed.

JimToken

CoronaBlocker wrote: »

Underinvestment was never the issue. It was all on the mismanagement/waste side of things. Scan budgets going back 20 years if you need to.

I said it before

There should have been a cheaper spec ICU designed for the Covid crisis

The space and beds should be ready and Existing and new staff should be ready and trained to man them

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think Tony H has broken the people in the relaxation thread. Wonder will the next step to be to blame immigration in some way for the lockdowns?

Kermit isn’t banned from that thread so he is stirring it up nicely

growleaves

Golfman64 wrote: »

Not confirmed yet but I would imagine likely to be closed. There would be too much resentment from those who can't play other sports or live outside 5K. Ridiculous but given the sledgehammer approach being taken in general to restrictions and the head in the sand attitude to mental and physical health aside from Covid, I can't see it being allowed.

Theres even less danger from tennis since you're on your own side of the net but tennis courts were closed last time around.

Stheno

JimToken wrote: »

I said it before

There should have been a cheaper spec ICU designed for the Covid crisis

The space and beds should be ready and Existing and new staff should be ready and trained to man them

A cheaper spec ICU?

Now I'm not a medical professional but my understanding is those that get very sick in ICU need huge amounts of supports over and above ventilation so would be getting the most high spec beds available, with huge amounts of equipment required, along with the staff of course

seamus

Eamonn Ryan said yesterday that golf courses would have to close, but he's been known to be wrong in the past! Very little golf this time of year anyway, it's usually too wet and windy.

Driving ranges may be allowed to remain open as they'd constitute individual training/practice.

JimToken

growleaves wrote: »

Theres even less danger from tennis since you're on your own side of the net but tennis courts were closed last time around.

Restrictions are like car parks

If there's only 1 free car park it'll be jammers

mohawk

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

You can identify who started a cluster through an effective ITTIC programme (investigate, trace, test (including rapid targeted testing) , isolate and control). Using the retrospective tracing method, it's possible to identify who started the chain of transmission. This can only be achieved when cases are at a manageable level and with compliance, impossible currently.

In terms of stats, there is plenty of data to suggest that up to 20% of people are responsible for 80% of infections. Once you break the chain of transmission, the number of cases decreases dramatically as has been achieved in Eastern Countries, such as Taiwan, South Korea Japan

In pharma industry clean rooms there are about 10% of people who can’t work in them because they are Supershredders and will contaminate the product. Based on that I would well believe it’s a minority spreading the majority of cases as they are just leaving more virus after them then others. I recently read something about a Japanese Doctor saying how important it is to track down the superspreaders to get a handle on the numbers... I wish I could remember where I read it.

JimToken

Stheno wrote: »

A cheaper spec ICU?

Now I'm not a medical professional but my understanding is those that get very sick in ICU need huge amounts of supports over and above ventilation so would be getting the most high spec beds available, with huge amounts of equipment required, along with the staff of course

Horses for courses

It can be done and needs to be done more cheaply for covid

eagle eye

GT89 wrote:

Hospitals are far from overrun

About two weeks at most from being overrun without a lockdown.

Sakana

Thinking of starting up an oul' shebeen.

Happydays2020

snotboogie wrote: »

ICU up to 35, those in hospital up to 315

The NPHET has 100 in ICU On Saturday week. Let’s hope it does not come to that.

jam_mac_jam

polesheep wrote: »

I doubt they would pay for a flight and go to all the trouble associated with air travel just to make a point about masks. The situation we find ourselves in is pushing some people over the edge. It's to be expected.

And some people are just arseholes.

Fast Twitch

Any news of positive swabs today? Suppose it's a bit early.

BringBackMick

Fast Twitch wrote: »

Any news of positive swabs today? Suppose it's a bit early.

usually about 3

Fast Twitch

I work in the public sector..my boss is telling me with confidence we'll be back in our offices in November. Wonder where she's getting that from? No real review i thought in the 6 weeks..

Cluedo Monopoly

All the people that voted FF and FG for decades and accepted the massive waste, inaction and bureaucracy within the HSE cannot have much to complain about at the moment. The chickens have come home to roost.

The 2 permanent power parties didn't even bother increasing ICU capacity over the summer.

BringBackMick

Sounds to me like Dobbo has some symptoms

lawred2

ixoy wrote: »

Let's all adopt UTC, save ourselves some hassle.

be great

especially as it would mean next to nothing for us here in Ireland would really change

Happydays2020

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I work in the public sector..my boss is telling me with confidence we'll be back in our offices in November. Wonder where she's getting that from? No real review i thought in the 6 weeks..

November 2021?

Cluedo Monopoly

eagle eye wrote: »

About two weeks at most from being overrun without a lockdown.

How do the numbers compare with March/April?

growleaves

JimToken wrote: »

Restrictions are like car parks

If there's only 1 free car park it'll be jammers

Yes but (if they ban doubles) it still the case that only two people will fit on a tennis court at one time and those two people will be separated by the net.

DebDynamite

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sent it onto a mate who's a Garda in Dublin (posted a few things he's said to me before), his reply was basically changes nothing, might act as a deterrent but that those calls are bottom of a queue and get the standard we'll send a car when it's a available response, said they haven't been and won't be responding to calls all night long in relation to gatherings. He says other colleagues have said that if you wanted you could spend the whole night on just calls for gatherings and they don't.

His inspector told them this morning to police the same was as they have been throughout.

Are the guards not quieter than ever though, or certainly will be again when we go into lockdown. Crime figures went right down for the 5 months or so when our movements were restricted and before pubs/restaurants opened. With people not being out in town, there’s no drunken crowds to control, no anti-social behavior, no fights, not even pubs/restaurants to check up on to ensure they’re following the guidelines.

If they bring in this power, what else will the guards be doing that they can’t respond to calls of this nature, when the rest of the country are in their homes?

Non solum non ambulabit

polesheep wrote: »

The whole house party thing was wildly exaggerated. There are far more significant factors at play in the spread of the virus.

Exactly. House party as defined by NPHET is a few people meeting in a house for a cuppa tea and a bun. Almost none related to 4am booze fests.

KrustyUCC

Review after 4?

spookwoman

eagle eye wrote: »

Why was it deleted?

No idea 18th and 19th links removed but the files still in the background if you know where to look

mean gene

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I work in the public sector..my boss is telling me with confidence we'll be back in our offices in November. Wonder where she's getting that from? No real review i thought in the 6 weeks..

Was he talking to Mickey Martin this morning or do you think he made it up

stephenjmcd

DebDynamite wrote: »

Are the guards not quieter than ever though, or certainly will be again when we go into lockdown. Crime figures went right down for the 5 months or so when our movements were restricted and before pubs/restaurants opened. With people not being out in town, there’s no drunken crowds to control, no anti-social behavior, no fights, not even pubs/restaurants to check up on to ensure they’re following the guidelines.

If they bring in this power, what will the guards be doing to they can’t respond to calls of this nature, when the rest of the country are in their homes.

Not at the moment they're not anyway, as busy as ever and as much overtime as they want for checkpoints.

Still have to check pubs and restaurants during level 5 they were told. Open for takeaway so they'll still be going around checking.

There was a lull in the first few months but they don't expect that now during the winter. Unfortunately from his experience a huge spike in domestic violence related calls and requests for welfare checks related to such. Those calls will always take priority.

DebDynamite

DebDynamite wrote: »

Are the guards not quieter than ever though, or certainly will be again when we go into lockdown. Crime figures went right down for the 5 months or so when our movements were restricted and before pubs/restaurants opened. With people not being out in town, there’s no drunken crowds to control, no anti-social behavior, no fights, not even pubs/restaurants to check up on to ensure they’re following the guidelines.

If they bring in this power, what will the guards be doing to they can’t respond to calls of this nature, when the rest of the country are in their homes.

sure the Gardaí have their own issues with members of the force doing tests and carrying on regardless, get your own house in order Drew before you bang on anyone else door.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40064792.html

They've as much right to be fining people as this eejit has to be on RTE!

https://www.northernsound.ie/monaghan-professor-says-coronavirus-combination-spanish-flu-great-depression/

Plumbthedepths

Pleased to see several friends of mine are still in employment as their employers started to stock essential items after the last lockdown.

Necro

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not at the moment they're not anyway, as busy as ever and as much overtime as they want for checkpoints.

Still have to check pubs and restaurants during level 5 they were told. Open for takeaway so they'll still be going around checking.

There was a lull in the first few months but they don't expect that now during the winter. Unfortunately from his experience a huge spike in domestic violence related calls and requests for welfare checks related to such. Those calls will always take priority.

Before my current job I worked taking calls and logging incidents onto the Pulse system.

The amount of inane nonsense the Gardai actually get called out to is truly eye opening. Talking shadows in alleys, a rustle of a bin, some randomer walking down the street type sh1te.

I can only imagine what it's like now with the extra restrictions.

Fast Twitch

BringBackMick wrote: »

Sounds to me like Dobbo has some symptoms

He's often sinusy and nasal.

Sweet.Science

Hearing of lots of retail outlets that aren't closing

Is there some loophole ?

Fast Twitch

mean gene wrote: »

Was he talking to Mickey Martin this morning or do you think he made it up

She's trying to keep us on our toes i'd say.

JimToken

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Pleased to see several friends of mine are still in employment as their employers started to stock essential items after the last lockdown.

Nicely done

Qiaonasen

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I work in the public sector..my boss is telling me with confidence we'll be back in our offices in November. Wonder where she's getting that from? No real review i thought in the 6 weeks..

My take on that is your boss is out of touch and borderline delusional.

Necro

Qiaonasen wrote: »

My take on that is your boss is out of touch and borderline delusional.

Civil service manager...

Yeah probably about right

nacho libre

Necro wrote: »

Before my current job I worked taking calls and logging incidents onto the Pulse system.

The amount of inane nonsense the Gardai actually get called out to is truly eye opening. Talking shadows in alleys, a rustle of a bin, some randomer walking down the street type sh1te.

I can only imagine what it's like now with the extra restrictions.

Did anyone ring in to report their snowman has been stolen?

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1318535609489805313?s=20

Funsterdelux

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Hopefully they ll get their stock levels up. We'd ordered 2 items for collection last week and when it came to collect, one of the items were out of stock. Bit of a dose if you have to travel.

Luckily it was just an additional item. We usually have most of the kids stuff gotten before halloween in general, avoids disappointment.

"Well son, there was an outbreak of Covid in the North Pole, and the elves had to go into Level 5 lockdown, so Santa had get all his toys from the cheap ****e in Lidl"

Real Donald Trump

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Hearing of lots of retail outlets that aren't closing

Is there some loophole ?

Great news, I hope more follow suit...

Fast Twitch

Qiaonasen wrote: »

My take on that is your boss is out of touch and borderline delusional.

She's anything but i can assure you! She's playing the game of don't get too comfy working from home.

Necro

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Hearing of lots of retail outlets that aren't closing

Is there some loophole ?

Yes, if you sell food or drink - or newspapers you don't need to close.

I heard a couple of toy stores recently started selling newspapers and magazines.

stephenjmcd

Necro wrote: »

Before my current job I worked taking calls and logging incidents onto the Pulse system.

The amount of inane nonsense the Gardai actually get called out to is truly eye opening. Talking shadows in alleys, a rustle of a bin, some randomer walking down the street type sh1te.

I can only imagine what it's like now with the extra restrictions.

Its unbelievable, have heard some absolutely mental calls. One recently rang up every 20 minutes to say there were 2 young lads out kicking a ball on the street and that it was causing anxiety as they're spreading the virus.

How on earth can you be going around dealing with that all day long

polesheep

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So these re-infections aren't outliers. But we live in Ireland so that's an exception.

I think you took the wrong thing from that article, but then that seems to have been the intention.

NATURE: Re-infection w/seasonal coronaviruses related to SARS-CoV-2 is common "suggesting it's a common feature for all human coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2"

stephenjmcd

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Hearing of lots of retail outlets that aren't closing

Is there some loophole ?

Yup click and collect

JimToken

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1318535609489805313?s=20

Do we really need Holihan speaking

Surely he can advise the government and the government spoke to us last nite

Necro

nacho libre wrote: »

Did anyone ring in to report their snowman has been stolen?

No we only had the TrafficWatch line open to the public. The rest was the Gardai themselves contacting us.

Funsterdelux

Necro wrote: »

Before my current job I worked taking calls and logging incidents onto the Pulse system.

The amount of inane nonsense the Gardai actually get called out to is truly eye opening. Talking shadows in alleys, a rustle of a bin, some randomer walking down the street type sh1te.

I can only imagine what it's like now with the extra restrictions.

Was your previous username Narco?

:pac:


Sounds a bit like the irish X Files

wirelessdude01

Fast Twitch wrote: »

I work in the public sector..my boss is telling me with confidence we'll be back in our offices in November. Wonder where she's getting that from? No real review i thought in the 6 weeks..

A friend of mine works in revenue. They've been told April '21 at the earliest before they will be back in the office.

What sector are you in?