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FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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    #2342
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    How will Cullinane defend his ‘Breaking the State’ when his turn comes.

    State seems fairly broken to me since the new crowd took over.


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    #2343
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Woulfe in FG clothing.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1327290652556750849?s=19


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    #2344
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    smurgen wrote: »
    Imagine if Leo had listened to NPHET initially we would have been out of lockdown this weekend. Next two weeks are on him. Well worth he as he got to show everyone who was boss :)

    And back in lockdown for the Xmas holidays.

    But sure any cheap shot to have a dig at Leo.

    Obsessed.


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    #2345
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    And back in lockdown for the Xmas holidays.

    But sure any cheap shot to have a dig at Leo.

    Obsessed.

    18/20 of the last tweets sent out on the official FG Twitter account were something to do with Sinn Fein.

    Not FG promoting a Government policy or legislation, just tweets attacking Sinn Fein.

    Some of them were even retweets of their own tweets.

    It's not going down too well either - spectacularly backfiring, each and every one.

    Obsessed he says.


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    #2346
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,286 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    McMurphy wrote: »
    18/20 of the last tweets sent out on the official FG Twitter account were something to do with Sinn Fein.

    Not FG promoting a Government policy or legislation, just tweets attacking Sinn Fein.

    Some of them were even retweets of their own tweets.

    It's not going down too well either - spectacularly backfiring, each and every one.

    Obsessed he says.

    You obviously don’t like a taste of your own medicine, Randall.

    Or your fellow travelers.


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    #2347
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    You obviously don’t like a taste of your own medicine, Randall.

    Or your fellow travelers.


    Twitter and the general public are having a good laugh at the FG social media spazz-out. And speaking of medicine, the say laughter is the best tonic, and the FG social media accounts are providing plenty of it.

    You're sunny-side-up assessment of the cringe bluebot behavior is predictable, but we know your lot are cracking up. As George Galloway once famously said to Christopher Hitchens: your hands are shaking, you need to pour yourself another drink.


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    #2348
    McMurphy
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    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    You obviously don’t like a taste of your own medicine, Randall.

    Or your fellow travelers.

    "Au Contraire" as they say Brenner, I'm one of the many hundreds and thousands taking the complete and utter piss out of them over there, definitely a severe lack of self awareness going on there Brenner.

    I'm firmly in the "keep her lit" camp concerning their twitter brain farts.


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    #2349
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    This is quality.

    https://twitter.com/ActingTheGoms/status/1327302355990310914?s=19


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    #2350
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    smurgen wrote: »
    Imagine if Leo had listened to NPHET initially we would have been out of lockdown this weekend. Next two weeks are on him. Well worth he as he got to show everyone who was boss :)


    Maybe I am missing something here. When did Leo become the Dictator of Ireland? according to a number of posters on here he seems to make every single decision.


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    #2351
    Floppybits
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    Solutionking wrote: »
    Maybe I am missing something here. When did Leo become the Dictator of Ireland? according to a number of posters on here he seems to make every single decision.

    Since Micheal Martin went to him on bended knee to form this unholy union of a government. Leo knew he had Martin then and since then Leo has been stomping around cutting the legs out from Martin and this government every chance he got.


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    #2352
    Solutionking
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    Floppybits wrote: »
    Since Micheal Martin went to him on bended knee to form this unholy union of a government. Leo knew he had Martin then and since then Leo has been stomping around cutting the legs out from Martin and this government every chance he got.


    In imaginary land maybe.



    A lot of cr*p posted on this thread but the obession with Leo the kitchen is embarrassing. What is it about him?


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    #2353
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Solutionking wrote: »
    Maybe I am missing something here. When did Leo become the Dictator of Ireland? according to a number of posters on here he seems to make every single decision.

    The realpolitick suggests FG told FF that the government was gone if they asked for Leo's head. Simple as. FF are being wagged by the FG dog.


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    #2354
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Solutionking wrote: »
    In imaginary land maybe.



    A lot of cr*p posted on this thread but the obession with Leo the kitchen is embarrassing. What is it about him?

    You would want to take the blue tinted spectacles off there. It is plain to see what has been going on since the start of this government. FG have been wagging FF tail. It is even clear to those in the FF party were there was no FG person supporting either cowen or callerly but when it came to Leo FF were paraded across the media to support him. Blantly obvious who is running things and it is not Micheal Martin.


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    #2355
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Solutionking wrote: »
    In imaginary land maybe.



    A lot of cr*p posted on this thread but the obession with Leo the kitchen is embarrassing. What is it about him?

    Boss...
    Solutionking wrote: »
    ....
    Bit of advice, get over the obsession with Leo the kitten. He is a politician, that's all. It ain't healthy.
    Solutionking wrote: »
    Leo = Bad

    That is what all his/her posts are about
    Solutionking wrote: »
    ....
    I suggest you read back over the last 20 posts on this thread from yourself, if you don't even realise you are obsessed the bloke it is worse than I though, as I said unhealthy.

    Seriously.
    It's obvious who's obsessed.

    I've asked you this before a number of times, if you can point to one post featuring Leo, not discussing something current he had just said or done please do otherwise you're talking out your hat.


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    #2356
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Floppybits wrote: »
    You would want to take the blue tinted spectacles off there. It is plain to see what has been going on since the start of this government. FG have been wagging FF tail. It is even clear to those in the FF party were there was no FG person supporting either cowen or callerly but when it came to Leo FF were paraded across the media to support him. Blantly obvious who is running things and it is not Micheal Martin.

    I think part of Leo's leaks and announcing things ahead of MM is him trying to seem like the boss, while undermining his government partners.
    Granted, he's piss poor at it.


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    #2357
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Floppybits wrote: »
    You would want to take the blue tinted spectacles off there. It is plain to see what has been going on since the start of this government. FG have been wagging FF tail. It is even clear to those in the FF party were there was no FG person supporting either cowen or callerly but when it came to Leo FF were paraded across the media to support him. Blantly obvious who is running things and it is not Micheal Martin.

    Hardly a FF TD in the Conference centre for the Confidence debate said it all. They were voting under duress. FG have them by the short and curlies, ok, but they were not gonna sit in full view supporting Leo.

    I thought that was very odd myself, did anyone else notice?


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    #2358
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Hardly a FF TD in the Conference centre for the Confidence debate said it all. They were voting under duress. FG have them by the short and curlies, ok, but they were not gonna sit in full view supporting Leo.

    I thought that was very odd myself, did anyone else notice?

    It was the same for O'Gorman when he was defending the mother and babies home legislation there wasn't a FF, FG or Green in the conference centre when he was being savaged by the opposition.


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    #2359
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Hardly a FF TD in the Conference centre for the Confidence debate said it all. They were voting under duress. FG have them by the short and curlies, ok, but they were not gonna sit in full view supporting Leo.

    I thought that was very odd myself, did anyone else notice?


    Doubt it, most people have better things to be at


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    #2360
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    Bowie wrote: »
    Boss...







    Seriously.
    It's obvious who's obsessed.

    I've asked you this before a number of times, if you can point to one post featuring Leo, not discussing something current he had just said or done please do otherwise you're talking out your hat.


    What topic did you post about straight away after this? Never seen a Tainste get so much coverage before in a government. Why are you lot so obsessed about him?

    The whole Debenhams topic you spent days posting about has nothing to do with the government. Many many many people tried to explain to you but all failed.


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    #2361
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Solutionking wrote: »
    What topic did you post about straight away after this? Never seen a Tainste get so much coverage before in a government. Why are you lot so obsessed about him?

    The whole Debenhams topic you spent days posting about has nothing to do with the government. Many many many people tried to explain to you but all failed.

    Commented on a post concerning LV being in charge. In a FF/FG thread. All you seem to be doing is passing comment on posters who comment on Leo, is that better or worse? :)

    No they have nae, (they used the topic as a spring board to side against the working tax payer). You asked what the connection was. I said it was LV commenting on it. I can't help if you can't seem to grasp that.


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    #2362
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    It's been a bad week for the opposition.
    Showed up as having been spun like bobbles in a personal vendetta.
    Roaring about getting rid of a judge and when they all met up they haven't a clue how, or if it can be done.
    Hurlers on the ditch can roar and scream, but put into the game they haven't a clue what to do with the ball.
    Back to the ditch lads it's safer over here!


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    #2363
    [Deleted User]
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    im sure theres a straight white fella thats actually taoiseach

    i mean im not imagining that am i?


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    #2364
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    im sure theres a straight white fella thats actually taoiseach

    i mean im not imagining that am i?

    Depends, on what you mean by straight and white. :D:D


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    #2365
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    It's been a bad week for the opposition.
    Showed up as having been spun like bobbles in a personal vendetta.
    Roaring about getting rid of a judge and when they all met up they haven't a clue how, or if it can be done.
    Hurlers on the ditch can roar and scream, but put into the game they haven't a clue what to do with the ball.
    Back to the ditch lads it's safer over here!

    You should look up what 'pyrrhic victories' are Bish.

    They are fairly classic things to force governments into and that is what has happened here. The opposition and I would imagine most savvy posters here, knew he would likely survive the vote but that was not in any way a reason to not force the vote.
    Leo survived the battle but will ultimately lose the war.


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    #2366
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    It's been a bad week for the opposition.
    Showed up as having been spun like bobbles in a personal vendetta.
    Roaring about getting rid of a judge and when they all met up they haven't a clue how, or if it can be done.
    Hurlers on the ditch can roar and scream, but put into the game they haven't a clue what to do with the ball.
    Back to the ditch lads it's safer over here!

    To be honest they should be made hand back wages for this week because it was just a waste of time. People complaining about the government been incompetent but look whats on the other side.

    SO far "the best opposition ever" have achieved what exactly since the election? Apart from sitting in the government and saying against to every thing brought forward by the government, and of course roaring into a mic they have done nothing from what I can?

    Now seems to be a good few supporters on here of opposition, what have they done? at this stage it would be cheaper and better just to have a load of dummies in the Dail saying "Nil" to everything, would be cheaper. If that is not we already have :p


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    #2367
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    im sure theres a straight white fella thats actually taoiseach

    i mean im not imagining that am i?

    Jaysis, I know fine rightly if a few other fellas made that post there'd be all sorts of homophobic racist insinuations flying around here like flies on white dog crap, and I know I ain't imagining that one snoop.

    It's almost like it's all bullsht, and they're looking for something to be outraged about. :D


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    #2368
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Solutionking wrote: »
    To be honest they should be made hand back wages for this week because it was just a waste of time. People complaining about the government been incompetent but look whats on the other side.

    SO far "the best opposition ever" have achieved what exactly since the election? Apart from sitting in the government and saying against to every thing brought forward by the government, and of course roaring into a mic they have done nothing from what I can?

    Now seems to be a good few supporters on here of opposition, what have they done? at this stage it would be cheaper and better just to have a load of dummies in the Dail saying "Nil" to everything, would be cheaper. If that is not we already have :p

    The opposition's job is to scrutinise the government and to call them to account.
    They have done this in spades since the get go. We know the score on people who have had to leave government because they were 'called to account'. We are awaiting the 'score' on those who have been called to account but haven't been made leave the government.

    The other 'job' the opposition (and the government parties to be fair) do is a selfish party one, it is to position themselves in the best place to gain at the next election. Again it remains to be seen how they have performed in that regard. My opinion would be, they have done sterling work in that regard.


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    #2369
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The opposition's job is to scrutinise the government and to call them to account.
    They have done this in spades since the get go. We know the score on people who have had to leave government because they were 'called to account'. We are awaiting the 'score' on those who have been called to account but haven't been made leave the government.

    The other 'job' the opposition (and the government parties to be fair) do is a selfish party one, it is to position themselves in the best place to gain at the next election. Again it remains to be seen how they have performed in that regard. My opinion would be, they have done sterling work in that regard.

    But they haven't. The press have and SF have jumped on the bandwagon.

    The opposition can bring forward legislation etc, have they done any of that? they have come up with no viable alternatives to the government, just saying everything is wrong is not an alternative. Now maybe I am wrong and more than willing to hear what they have dne?

    SO far they have been terrible if you compare to what a FF or a FG did when they ran in opposition. In my opinion.

    Labour so far have shown better opposition than anything SF have come up with. All these great TDs who got elected and we have the same two(Mary Lou and Pearse) on everything. What happened to the rest of them?


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    #2370
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,178 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Solutionking wrote: »
    But they haven't. The press have and SF have jumped on the bandwagon.

    The opposition can bring forward legislation etc, have they done any of that? they have come up with no viable alternatives to the government, just saying everything is wrong is not an alternative. Now maybe I am wrong and more than willing to hear what they have dne?

    SO far they have been terrible if you compare to what a FF or a FG did when they ran in opposition. In my opinion.

    Labour so far have shown better opposition than anything SF have come up with. All these great TDs who got elected and we have the same two(Mary Lou and Pearse) on everything. What happened to the rest of them?

    Quick Google otherwise known as researching your 'opinion' before putting your foot in it again.

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/50/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/49/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/51/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/55/

    More here, if you are interested in the actualities. https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/


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    #2371
    Solutionking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Solutionking


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Quick Google otherwise known as researching your 'opinion' before putting your foot in it again.

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/50/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/49/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/51/
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/55/

    More here, if you are interested in the actualities. https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/

    Thanks for sharing, no idea why you have to be so rude about it.

    4 out of 55 is it?


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