FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Floppybits · 03-03-2021 4:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh, Dear. Monkey hear no good? Get over it. We’re on schedule and will soon be open for business again.

Oh really when is this going to happen Maryanne?

Whatisthisnow · 03-03-2021 4:46pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh, Dear. Monkey hear no good? Get over it. We’re on schedule and will soon be open for business again.

We are 20,000 down on the 100,000 planned to be vaccinated last week

That is NOT ON SCHEDULE

Floppybits · 03-03-2021 4:48pm

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

We are 20,000 down on the 100,000 planned to be vaccinated last week

That is NOT ON SCHEDULE

I am shocked that the HSE would miss a target like this. It is not like the HSE to miss targets like this. Shocked I am, shocked.

Bubbaclaus · 03-03-2021 4:53pm

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

The Govt promised 100,000, they failed to deliver. I was aware when i posted it there was a delay but the Govt and supporters said 100,000 will be done.

Why didn't they come out and say oh we will be 20,000 short? This was known to them last week

Misleading the public

No you weren't. You even backed away from the comment at the time (and edited it quietly) when it was pointed out to you that you were basing it on 3 days of data.

Not sure why you feel the need to make that up and make it appear you had some big inside scope at the time, when you clearly didn't?

Bubbaclaus · 03-03-2021 4:57pm

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

We are 20,000 down on the 100,000 planned to be vaccinated last week

That is NOT ON SCHEDULE

There wasn't a peep out of you when the HSE beat their weekly targets in the 2 weeks prior. Unnecessary HSE bashing when the issue is with AstraZeneca supply.

AlmightyCushion · 03-03-2021 5:01pm

James Brown wrote: »

Do you mean 24th for vaccine roll out?
10th in people got the two jabs. I mean if we'd only two doses and gave them to one person we might be number 1 :rolleyes:

We're 24th in the absolute number of vaccine distributed. This is to be expected for a smaller country. Germany have vaccinated more people than are in Ireland but have vaccinated less people per 100,000 than us.

James Brown · 03-03-2021 5:22pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We're 24th in the absolute number of vaccine distributed. This is to be expected for a smaller country. Germany have vaccinated more people than are in Ireland but have vaccinated less people per 100,000 than us.

Agreed. My point stands regarding us being tenth in full vaccinations.

James Brown · 03-03-2021 5:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh, Dear. Monkey hear no good? Get over it. We’re on schedule and will soon be open for business again.

No need to resort to insults.

Whatisthisnow · 03-03-2021 5:58pm

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

No you weren't. You even backed away from the comment at the time (and edited it quietly) when it was pointed out to you that you were basing it on 3 days of data.

Not sure why you feel the need to make that up and make it appear you had some big inside scope at the time, when you clearly didn't?

Backed away from nothing. I was proven correct, we failed the 100,000 last week.

Hopefully this week is better

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2021 6:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh, Dear. Monkey hear no good? Get over it. We’re on schedule and will soon be open for business again.

We were there had they not ignored the expert advice. No biggie any more, we know if we lockdown the numbers will go down.

03-03-2021 6:04pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We were there had they not ignored the expert advice. No biggie any more, we know if we lockdown the numbers will go down.

That was pre vaccination. Once vaccination ramps up, we’ll be back in business.

Whatisthisnow · 03-03-2021 6:12pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That was pre vaccination. Once vaccination ramps up, we’ll be back in business.

The target to vaccinate all over 85s by end of the week has failed with some GPs been given a date of 11th March

The last word discussing it now

James Brown · 03-03-2021 6:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That was pre vaccination. Once vaccination ramps up, we’ll be back in business.

Once things move more quickly things will move more quickly. True :rolleyes:

Bubbaclaus · 03-03-2021 6:48pm

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

Backed away from nothing. I was proven correct, we failed the 100,000 last week.

Hopefully this week is better

"I was proven correct"

Gas revisionism.

Nobotty · 03-03-2021 6:48pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We were there had they not ignored the expert advice. No biggie any more, we know if we lockdown the numbers will go down.

Staying locked down in november into january ,the run up to and including xmas wouldnt have done it Francie,there would have been multiple upon multiple of house parties and uncontrolable house mixing with the new variant
Pubs were turning people away in droves up untill 3pm xmas Eve,despite dire warnings that day on the news
Huge numbers didnt care
You only have to look at Wales which got worse and worse and then only slow improvement despite a pre xmas and post xmas lockdown
They're still in lockdown,a longer one than ours but only now are much improved but have a third of all adults vaccinated which has helped
This virus is trial and error
Not giving the break from lockdown in november and december I suspect would have lead to even more ignoring restrictions than there is now (and theres a lot!)

Fann Linn · 03-03-2021 6:50pm

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

There wasn't a peep out of you when the HSE beat their weekly targets in the 2 weeks prior. Unnecessary HSE bashing when the issue is with AstraZeneca supply.

I thought Astra Zenica wasn't to be used on the over 80s?

Nobotty · 03-03-2021 6:52pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

I thought Astra Zenica wasn't to be used on the over 80s?

Its being used on healthcare workers including dental practices now

James Brown · 03-03-2021 6:55pm

Nobotty wrote: »

Staying locked down in november into january ,the run up to and including xmas wouldnt have done it Francie,there would have been multiple upon multiple of house parties and uncontrolable house mixing with the new variant
Pubs were turning people away in droves up untill 3pm xmas Eve,despite dire warnings that day on the news
Huge numbers didnt care
You only have to look at Wales which got worse and worse and then only slow improvement despite a pre xmas and post xmas lockdown
They're still in lockdown,a longer one than ours but only now are much improved but have a third of all adults vaccinated which has helped
This virus is trial and error
Not giving the break from lockdown in november and december I suspect would have lead to even more ignoring restrictions than there is now (and theres a lot!)

The throw your hands up in the air 'sure what can you do?' defence.
Lets stop funding drink drive campaigns and take the Garda off check points...
The government did not follow NPHET advice and cases spiraled to worst in the world at one point.

03-03-2021 7:00pm

James Brown wrote: »

The throw your hands up in the air 'sure what can you do?' defence.
Lets stop funding drink drive campaigns and take the Garda off check points...
The government did not follow NPHET advice and cases spiraled to worst in the world at one point.

Nothing to do with people losing the run of themselves? There’s no legislating for stupidity.

Vaccinations are being done. The reopening of the country is in sight. Let’s hold tough for another few weeks. Think positive. There’s enough negativity out there.

Nobotty · 03-03-2021 7:03pm

James Brown wrote: »

The throw your hands up in the air 'sure what can you do?' defence.
Lets stop funding drink drive campaigns and take the Garda off check points...
The government did not follow NPHET advice and cases spiraled to worst in the world at one point.

The stick your head in the sand and ignore reality reply
Seriously what good was it posting what you posted there?
Wales was pretty bad despite a longer lockdown pre xmas

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-56195959

Brendan Bendar · 03-03-2021 7:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nothing to do with people losing the run of themselves? There’s no legislating for stupidity.

Vaccinations are being done. The reopening of the country is in sight. Let’s hold tough for another few weeks. Think positive. There’s enough negativity out there.

More than enough here MA.

Negativity Central.

Fann Linn · 03-03-2021 7:18pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nothing to do with people losing the run of themselves? There’s no legislating for stupidity.

Vaccinations are being done. The reopening of the country is in sight. Let’s hold tough for another few weeks. Think positive. There’s enough negativity out there.

And do you not think the govt should legislate 'just in case people lose the run of themselves?'
Why are they always so reactive and so far behind what the general public want?
A totally inept govt.

Brendan Bendar · 03-03-2021 7:23pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

And do you not think the govt should legislate 'just in case people lose the run of themselves?'
Why are they always so reactive and so far behind what the general public want?
A totally inept govt.

What do the general public want dude?

Some want this.... some want that.

The govts. job is to take all considerations into consideration.

One trick ponies have ....erm..... only one trick.

M’kay?

Fann Linn · 03-03-2021 7:30pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What do the general public want dude?

Some want this.... some want that.

The govts. job is to take all considerations into consideration.

One trick ponies have ....erm..... only one trick.

M’kay?

Okay bro, just going from mainstream media surveys, quarantine, lockdowns at Christmas, bans on flights. You know, everything the govt haven't been doing.

Whatisthisnow · 03-03-2021 7:35pm

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1367155044731281415?s=19

At least the Hotel Quarantine is underway

Oh actually wait

James Brown · 03-03-2021 7:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nothing to do with people losing the run of themselves? There’s no legislating for stupidity.

Vaccinations are being done. The reopening of the country is in sight. Let’s hold tough for another few weeks. Think positive. There’s enough negativity out there.

Everything to do with that too.
Where did I say it wasn't, "monkey hear no good"?

There's thinking positive and pointing out incompetence they are not mutually exclusive. We can only improve if we acknowledge mistakes.

James Brown · 03-03-2021 7:38pm

Nobotty wrote: »

The stick your head in the sand and ignore reality reply
Seriously what good was it posting what you posted there?
Wales was pretty bad despite a longer lockdown pre xmas

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-56195959

False narratives should be pointed out IMO. You claimed it would have been the same or worse if they had have followed NPHET advice. That, in my book, is blarney.

Brendan Bendar · 03-03-2021 7:39pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Okay bro, just going from mainstream media surveys, quarantine, lockdowns at Christmas, bans on flights. You know, everything the govt haven't been doing.

Ok cat.

Fann Linn · 03-03-2021 7:40pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Ok cat.

Bye brennerss

Brendan Bendar · 03-03-2021 7:41pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Bye brennerss

Eh.....bye

FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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