Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Sardonicat

518 today. Tuesday's should be good, not.

No deaths, thankfully.

hmmm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

The other option would be to ramp up and down restrictions. Is that better or worse? I'm not actually sure.

Businesses can plan where there is stability. It's impossible to plan if things are moving up and down.

We will have to live limited social lives outside for the next while.

martingriff

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

if only the HSE had some sort of a warning or alert to train people or recruit people from overseas (ex-pats maybe) to cover while they were training staff......

Itsa not just the staff its the space the beds the equipment. I am not disagreeing it should have been in operation to do this but your being a little simplistic

John O.Groats

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I don't think he has an "agenda" when it comes to welcoming the fact that there's NO DEATHS NOTIFIED TODAY... from Covid.. sorry if that affects your agenda..:rolleyes:

FYP.

Ohmeha

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Is this not just because everywhere else has had an uptick of cases? Dublin has been fairly stable in the 120s-140s with the occasional higher/lower from the start, unless I am just getting confused

Correct. Dublin still increasing but at a much slower rate, outside of Dublin is driving growth now, the respective 14 days percentage growth columns below for the past 3 weeks show both effectively swapping growth rates now

Day Month Date Dublin Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day % Non-Dub Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day %
Tuesday September 15th 218 836 119.43 47.44% 100.21 104.22% 139 634 90.57 28.60% 80.50 28.65%
Wednesday September 16th 136 921 131.57 63.01% 106.14 106.10% 118 719 102.71 46.73% 86.36 37.86%
Thursday September 17th 119 933 133.29 50.24% 111.00 115.53% 121 751 107.29 40.37% 91.86 53.83%
Friday September 18th 116 928 132.57 29.25% 117.57 134.47% 137 798 114.00 44.83% 96.36 54.35%
Saturday September 19th 166 1,019 145.57 54.39% 119.93 115.26% 108 822 117.43 53.07% 97.07 56.03%
Sunday September 20th 241 1,104 157.71 47.59% 132.29 128.92% 155 878 125.43 55.12% 103.14 57.13%
Monday September 21st 76 1,072 153.14 34.00% 133.71 136.36% 112 890 127.14 43.55% 107.86 69.47%
Tuesday September 22nd 174 1,028 146.86 22.97% 133.14 94.78% 160 911 130.14 43.69% 110.36 64.19%
Wednesday September 23rd 103 995 142.14 8.03% 136.86 109.40% 131 924 132.00 28.51% 117.36 81.95%
Thursday September 24th 167 1,043 149.00 11.79% 141.14 100.00% 157 960 137.14 27.83% 122.21 83.39%
Friday September 25th 152 1,079 154.14 16.27% 143.36 89.88% 174 997 142.43 24.94% 128.21 89.35%
Saturday September 26th 104 1,017 145.29 -0.20% 145.43 89.75% 144 1,033 147.57 25.67% 132.50 95.47%
Sunday September 27th 212 988 141.14 -10.51% 149.43 73.61% 218 1,096 156.57 24.83% 141.00 91.65%
Monday September 28th 209 1,121 160.14 4.57% 156.64 70.26% 181 1,165 166.43 30.90% 146.79 86.48%
Tuesday September 29th 154 1,101 157.29 7.10% 152.07 51.75% 209 1,214 173.43 33.26% 151.79 88.55%
Wednesday September 30th 189 1,187 169.57 19.30% 155.86 46.84% 240 1,323 189.00 43.18% 160.50 85.86%
Thursday October 1st 170 1,190 170.00 14.09% 159.50 43.69% 272 1,438 205.43 49.79% 171.29 86.47%
Friday October 2nd 198 1,236 176.57 14.55% 165.36 40.64% 272 1,536 219.43 54.06% 180.93 87.77%
Saturday October 3rd 224 1,356 193.71 33.33% 169.50 41.33% 389 1,781 254.43 72.41% 201.00 107.06%
Sunday October 4th 100 1,244 177.71 25.91% 159.43 20.52% 264 1,827 261.00 66.70% 208.79 102.42%
Monday October 5th 134 1,169 167.00 4.28% 163.57 22.33% 384 2,030 290.00 74.25% 228.21 111.59%

Oranage2

Not as shocking as I thought it was though still extremely high. Dublin is still very up and down, I'd wait for the rest of the week before claiming it's stabilizing. The presser tomorrow should be interesting if the journos ask the right questions.

GooglePlus

My comments on this thread fit for closure... 1000 cases per day in two weeks time and a lift to level 4 within 2.

I hope I'm wrong but I love being right so I'm conflicted.

froog

NPHET saying ICU beds will reach capacity by Oct 25. this seems to be what drove the level 5 push.

antodeco

How in the same of shyte do we have so little hospital beds and ICU beds? Like if a full Dublin bus crashed and everyone needed an ICU bed, there wouldn't be enough beds!

Tenzor07

John O.Groats wrote: »

FYP.

There's always tomorrow for you eh?

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I'd rank it the same as I would rank the economy, mental health. All are interlinked.

Well if cases keep growing then we'll end up in a more serious lockdown at some stage.
The quicker we flatten the curve the better for the national health and the economy.
The economy isn't in good shape right now and if this thing continues like it has it's not going to improve?
I'm of the opinion that the national health and the economy are better served by a strict lockdown until such time as we get this thing back under control.
I'd also hope that this lockdown would be a sharp reminder to everybody as to what we can expect if we don't abide by the guidelines.
And there's changes need to be made too. This belief that if you are working behind a screen that you don't need a mask is insane.

Non solum non ambulabit

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

134 in Dublin, 53 in Cork, 49 in Limerick, 34 in Donegal, 32 in Meath.

Remaining 216 cases are spread across 20 counties.

Level 3 is working in Dublin

begbysback

Today is a great day people, it’s the day the people we elected to run the country have grown a pair and taken the reins back off the white coats.

speckle

speckle wrote: »

So what is the real reasons behind wanting to jump levels? Well watch this video. It is not that we exactly have a huge increase hospitalizations/ICU covid admissions, (which are at a lower percentage per cases this time round but growing slowly but steadily).

It is the backlog (from earlier in the year and historical) of outpatient appointments and surgery's right across the departments in hospitals coinciding with increased emergency department visits by high risk/older/vulnerable people, who probably put off going and are now presenting with more complex issues. A lack of capacity, staff covid burnout and Gp's this retiring also mentioned.

From the Royal College of surgeons of Ireland, discussing the situation 2 weeks ago, re the hospitals in Cork, Limerick, Galway/west and Belfast/North.(before recent numbers) @ 5mins/18mins/39mins/57mins.

Note the mention of level 5 in the first two minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXL8clzYYg

I blame all government parties over the last 20 years for their lack of investment in the public health service and the HSE for the lack of reorganising it.

And more recently, Nephet/government for not treating us like adults, and imparting to us the Irish people, the likes of the information in this video. It should have been on prime time TV even replacing an hour of the Late Late Show. So we all could have an informed debate, on how to balance the interdependence of economy and health care going into the next year. We could have let the Irish people start thinking of creative ideas to help.

I am as mad as hell because of the lack of transparency from Nephet/HSE and the government... grow up and treat us as adults and stop blaming every sector of society as breaking restrictions/regulations while your own house needs to get into order.:mad:

Rant over, I am going to bed now with a video/research paper talking about of how Bahrain turned the 3rd floor of a car park into an ICU in 7days with 130 beds!:)

I posted this last night, when most people here were asleep. To make it clear, I think the government and NEPHET have got everything twisted around backwards. We have to stay at level 2/3. And work around that, and sort what ever problems arise to maintain that position for the good of our health and economy long term. So that will mean having more general and ICU beds asap. I am now going to post options of how countries around the world have been doing this. We probably need a percentage of people to have had covid and some sort of immunity to cover the possibly that vaccines will not give sterilizing immunity and will take time to roll out.



And before anyone says what about the high risk, I am high risk in more than one way and have a multitude of over 80s in the family, along with 2 special needs adults. , some of which I talked to today... we need a functioning country as much as possible, peopled with a majority who are low risk as much as possible, for us and them to go on living,



I am glad we will be on level 3, but with that comes personal and societal responsibility, but more importantly for the government/HSE/nephet


Get your houses in order and plan for more ICU beds.

ps apologies for the long post:o

martingriff

GooglePlus wrote: »

As a people, we all need to become more aware of the role the media has played in all of this.

Never forget that they're out there to make money off your lack of judgement and tendancy to draw towards shock headlines.

I was only watching the VM half 5 news and they obviously selected a certain type to interview on the street of Dublin. I'd say in editing, they choose the most entertaining to watch.

Just be aware that your sources of information are there to make money from you and are designed to draw you in like a fly to ****.

The media aren't reliable and haven't been in a long time.

You didn't watch all the interviews on VM them there was a number or irate people that 1 was a hotel owner who had a mantra learned off and said the same to every question his face was getting redder and redder as it continued. On RTE they had doctors who said level 3 was good enough.

Maybe people say different things when talking to people then when behind a computer

mr_edge_to_you

begbysback wrote: »

Today is a great day people, it’s the day the people we elected to run the country have grown a pair and taken the reins back off the white coats.

The same calibre of people who didn't realise that their golf hooley was in blatant breach of the restrictions at the time.

Icyseanfitz

begbysback wrote: »

Today is a great day people, it’s the day the people we elected to run the country have grown a pair and taken the reins back off the white coats.

You mean the medical experts? Ffs :rolleyes:

Ohmeha

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Supermarkets aren't there to enforce the law, they can request customers wear them but it's up to the Gardai like it or not to enforce the laws.

Apart from the fact that the Mandatory wearing of Face masks provision in law expired today, so it's no longer Mandatory to wear them...

Supermarkets have complete rights to accept or refuse admission to their stores, so when the have their signs at the entry to the stores stating masks are mandatory in the store and consistently fail to enforce then they should be rightly called out for their participation in failing to take their own measures to control the spread of this disease in this country

walshb

So the mathematical modelling is the L5 reasoning/logic..

hmmm

Ohmeha wrote: »

Correct. Dublin still increasing but at a much slower rate, outside of Dublin is driving growth now, the respective 14 days percentage growth columns below for the past 3 weeks show both effectively swapping growth rates now

Great stats, and the exponential growth rate in Dublin seems to have levelled off at a crude reading.

The problem we now have across the country is it takes 2 weeks to see that effect - in the meantime cases keep growing. It'll take even longer to get it to decrease.

martingriff

Ohmeha wrote: »

All of the main supermarket retailers Dunnes/Tesco/Supervalu/Aldi/Lidl in Dublin are failing to enforce customers wearing masks or their staff wearing visors properly. This weekend I watched people in Tesco with masks worn below their chin eating fast-food in the store and sniffing into Shampoo bottles

In fairness to the staff all they can do is ask it has not been made mandatory. They are trying there best and all will happen is someone will laugh in there face. People now believe they have a mask so now they are fine and dandy no distance between themselves no washing or sanatize of hands. People would once stop at each bottle now do not even look once. The beast is the person with the mask under there nose thinking they are great

screamer

begbysback wrote: »

Today is a great day people, it’s the day the people we elected to run the country have grown a pair and taken the reins back off the white coats.

Remember, it’s the ones in the white coats who can save your life, the turfs in the ties and suits couldn’t care less. I think down the line, this is a decision that will have very poor and very sad outcomes for a lot of families. Delayed action against covid leads to poor outcomes, but sure anyway, it’s too late now.

Sephiroth_dude

Mod

Gonna lock this folks as we are nearing 10k, new thread here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058119434