When will they [The Government] tell us the truth about Covid?

Don2012

Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

Sconsey

Don2012 wrote: »

Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

At you, they are laughing at you...in your head.

MadYaker

Some people are totally bonkers

GreeBo

Who are "they" and how is this the only thing they have managed to coordinate across the globe?

Don2012

Sconsey wrote: »

At you, they are laughing at you...in your head.

Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

Guy:Incognito

Don2012 wrote: »

Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

"A few" American doctors

Is your one that was going on about riding spirits in your dreams part of that group?

Don2012

GreeBo wrote: »

Who are "they" and how is this the only thing they have managed to coordinate across the globe?

Who do you think "they" is!! The government.

Ten of Swords

Moved to conspiracy theories, local charter applies

Sconsey

Don2012 wrote: »

Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.

Guy:Incognito

Don2012 wrote: »

Who do you think "they" is!! The government.

The world government ?

LessOutragePlz

Plenty of well qualified experts that have a differing opinions to the current experts but because they don't fit the narrative that is being pushed at the moment they aren't listed to or give any media attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBRcK-od50Q

It's fairly sad that the government don't listen to these other experts too busy hanging on every word from NPHET.

What happened to the idea of a balanced debate by listening to the other options to deal with the virus from other experts rather than continually going down one path to the point of no return. We're so commited to it we have the blinders on we can't see any other option but there are plenty of other sensible options out there and I'm not talking about listening to crazy people on the internet with no qualifications.

Don2012

Sconsey wrote: »

Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.

What is "Right wing" this isn't America friend! It is laughable that you'd rather call anyone who has a different opinion from your own a "conspiracy theorist" rather than actually doing any thinking and research for yourself.

Guy:Incognito

Don2012 wrote: »

What is "Right wing" this isn't America friend! .

You're the one citing American doctors.



Anyway, right wing is right wing. It's not an American thing. You might be aware of the odd fascist knocking about Europe over the last number of decades.....

Padre_Pio

Don2012 wrote: »

Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

Healthcare professionals have been wearing masks daily for extended periods for probably over 70 years.
People in Asian countries have a culture of mask wearing.

If there were some health concerns, how come they have never been raised before a few "woke" people in the US were told to wear masks?
If there was some conspiracy to kill people with colds and flu, this wouldn't do it.

Don2012 wrote: »

I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

People still need food, medicine, post and all the other stuff of modern life. The numbers travelling through ports and airports were minuscule, and, lets face it, some people still need to travel for work. If a machine breaks down, maybe the nearest repair guy is in the UK or France.

Most flights were cancelled BTW. The virus is transmitted by people mingling, so people were told to stop mingling. End of story.
No country in the world would close ports and airports, it's stupid.
All your points are stupid.

Don2012

Sconsey wrote: »

Do your mental health a favor and stay off the right-wing conspiracy sites.

Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993

banie01

Don2012 wrote: »

Watch this, American doctors and professionals addressed Covid-19 misinformation with Capitol Hill Press Conference at the end of July. It went viral but Facebook and YouTube banned it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/POLTxXtodLuV/

Think for yourself and turn off RTE!!!!!

Think for yourself and actually research the sources you choose to give credence to!

https://www.bbc.com/news/53559938
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/in-viral-video-doctor-falsely-touts-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-19-cure/

If you wish to make claims, present evidence.
Of note is the fact that these doctors have not.
Of particular note to anyone with half a brain and a modicum of rational thought...
Would be the fact that the primary peddler of this particular bullshít also believes amongst other things that:

Five years ago, she alleged that alien DNA was being used in medical treatments, and that scientists were cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious.

Some of her other claims include blaming medical conditions on witches and demons - a common enough belief among some evangelical Christians - though she says they have sex with people in a dream world.

"They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm… then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves," she said during a sermon in 2013.

Another issue that Dr Immanuel targets is gay marriage, saying it can result in adults marrying children, according to the Daily Beast .

She also offers a prayer to remove a generational curse, originally received from an ancestor, but transmitted through placenta, the news website's profile of her says.

'Jesus will shut Facebook

Don, you and your Ilk peddling this BS will lead to deaths.
You're at best misinformed and unwilling to actually research this topic and address it's clear bias.
At worst you're a misanthrope trotting out these lines of bunkum in the hope of fuelling someone else misery.

Don2012

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Healthcare professionals have been wearing masks daily for extended periods for probably over 70 years.
People in Asian countries have a culture of mask wearing.

Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

Padre_Pio

Don2012 wrote: »

Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993

"With the participation of hundreds of professionals from all over the world, “Doctors for the Truth” stated that Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes.

Doctors for the Truth is two people, not hundreds.

There are tens of thousands of HCPs around the world who support various governments COVID strategies, and they're very vocal against strategies that don't promote lockdown.

I'd trust them over two cranks.

Don2012 wrote: »

Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

No, they don't. They wear masks for hours on end, daily, yearly, and no ill-effects.
People travelling on public transport in Asia wear masks for hours at a time. Again, no ill effects.
A neurosurgeon could be in theatre for 12 hours wearing a mask. They're not passing out of hypoxia or all the other nonsense side effects.

Why is it only now, in the last few months, that all these supposed side-effects are being discovered.
How come, in the history of mask wearing, no one discovered these effects?

Timberrrrrrrr

Don2012 wrote: »

Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

Can you link me to the peer reviewed study that backs up this claim please?

Guy:Incognito

Don2012 wrote: »

Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

When they wear them isn't relevant. If they weakened the immune system then they'd weaken them and they'd all get sick.

Plus, someone getting surgery isn't necessarily sick , so whey do they wear masks doing surgery to do a hip replacement?

Padre_Pio

Blaaz_ wrote: »

It is interesting taught in that some have zero sythoms and others take differing number if days to develop infections......hard to fathom it to be same virus

Some people get the flu and it knocks them for six.
Some people get the same flu and they're fine after a week.
Some people never seem to get the flu.

Don2012

Padre_Pio wrote: »

If there were some health concerns, how come they have never been raised before a few "woke" people in the US were told to wear masks?
If there was some conspiracy to kill people with colds and flu, this wouldn't do it..

Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

Deagol

Don2012 wrote: »

Masks weaken the immune system. Come wintertime many will be unable to fight off viruses because they wore a mask all summer long. All part of the plan, many will get the yearly winter Flu/cold, will run and get tested and BINGO!! All positive for this farce of a virus. *Coronavirus is from the same family of viruses as the one that causes the common cold and flu.* They are laughing at us.

I ask, why was the airports and ports never closed? If a deadly virus was here surely they would have been the first to close. No restrictions or procedures at airports either. Yet, pubs and house parties are being blamed for "cases rising" while they never closed the airports. This is deliberate so the pub culture in Ireland will cease to exist.

Do yourself a favour and go and research the term 'Confirmation Bias' - you maybe then will do better research into things that interest or effect you and be a more rounded and balanced individual.

Padre_Pio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

When they wear them isn't relevant. If they weakened the immune system then they'd weaken them and they'd all get sick.

Plus, someone getting surgery isn't necessarily sick , so whey do they wear masks doing surgery to do a hip replacement?

Because you're spreading bacteria from breathing and saliva on the patient, who is meant to be sterile.
And knee replacements are messy. Bone chips go everywhere:D

Don2012 wrote: »

Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

I do want to believe them, because the alternative is internet cranks with dubious links to sketchy, unverified reports.

I also refuse to believe that in a time where international strife is on the rise, that all the governments and health organisations of the world have surreptitiously banded together to oppress the world population through a virus and compulsory mask wearing.

Sconsey

Don2012 wrote: »

Another example of Spanish Doctors speaking out but if you'd rather let RTE and politicans do your thinking for you, that's your choice.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-doctors-truth-speak-out-madrid-dismantling-false-pandemic-covid-19/5719993

I say again, stay away from these types of sites, they are not good for you. Have you researched any of them? a quick Google is all it takes to inform you that they are complete nutters. I guess if you really want to believe this sh1te you will, but the majority of people are better informed.
I honestly hope you are not losing sleep over the nonsense claimed on these fringe sites.

ForstalDave

Don2012 wrote: »

Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

So was the spanish flu and look what that did, Just becasue it related to another virus does not mean its not more deadly

Don2012

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Can you link me to the peer reviewed study that backs up this claim please?

https://www.technocracy.news/censored-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covid-19-social-policy-and-why-face-masks-dont-work/?fbclid=IwAR2IIh-M1m7Rvphy5C49dpXItVjKw-HpCbNlkr1i3fh9F8QQoTKhBTFb22o

Timberrrrrrrr

Don2012 wrote: »

Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

What is it? You haven't explained this bit yet.

Don2012

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Can you link me to the peer reviewed study that backs up this claim please?

https://youtu.be/TPXyrab3oHc

My guess is you have already made up your mind. Trust the government and RTÉ with your life then. To as they say not as they do and let them take away out freedom.

Timberrrrrrrr

Don2012 wrote: »

https://www.technocracy.news/censored-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covid-19-social-policy-and-why-face-masks-dont-work/?fbclid=IwAR2IIh-M1m7Rvphy5C49dpXItVjKw-HpCbNlkr1i3fh9F8QQoTKhBTFb22o

Not peer reviewed.


Also the first thing I like to do is check a source, something you don't seem to do.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/technocracy-news/%3famp

Overall, we rate Technocracy.News a far-right tin foil hat Conspiracy site that promotes quackery level pseudoscience. We also rate them Very Low in factual reporting due to the routine publication of false information as evidenced by numerous failed fact checks.

Timberrrrrrrr

Don2012 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/TPXyrab3oHc

My guess is you have already made up your mind. Trust the government and RTÉ with your life then. To as they say not as they do and let them take away out freedom.

Do you even understand the term "peer reviewed study"?

bfa1509

I always have to laugh at the response conspiracy theories get on boards. Such outrage. The response tends to follow this pattern:

1) Question the OPs mental state
2) Dismiss everything as right wing so therefore not true
3) Post an opposing link from clear left-wing news site and claim it as being the holy gospel
4) Accuse the OP of being an anti-vaxxer or spreading misinformation that threatens the safety of the public or even causes people to carry out mass shootings

The conspiracy forum is plagued with these types, it always makes me laugh. I'm not saying the theories have any truth to them but the anger in response isn't justified for simply not having strong enough counter-arguments.

Timberrrrrrrr

bfa1509 wrote: »

I always have to laugh at the response conspiracy theories get on boards. Such outrage. The response tends to follow this pattern:

1) Question the OPs mental state
2) Dismiss everything as right wing so therefore not true
3) Post an opposing link from clear left-wing news site and claim it as being the holy gospel
4) Accuse the OP of being an anti-vaxxer or spreading misinformation that threatens the safety of the public or even causes people to carry out mass shootings

The conspiracy forum is plagued with these types, it always makes me laugh. I'm not saying the theories have any truth to them but the anger in response isn't justified for simply not having strong enough counter-arguments.

you're right, people should just be left alone to post whatever lies they want without being questioned about them at all.

Don2012

ForstalDave wrote: »

So was the spanish flu and look what that did, Just becasue it related to another virus does not mean its not more deadly

Holohan let it slip in mid April that this virus had peaked and retracted his statement the following day. The Aussie flu that came to Ireland two years ago was deadly, I know many that had it including myself but the whole country was shut down because of that!!

bfa1509

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

you're right, people should just be left alone to post whatever lies they want without being questioned about them at all.

Sorry I forgot to include your solid counter response to everything: "Nothing is true unless it has a peer reviewed research article"

I guess you can't question anything unless you have a pHD in the topic eh?

Padre_Pio

Don2012 wrote: »

https://www.technocracy.news/censored-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covid-19-social-policy-and-why-face-masks-dont-work/?fbclid=IwAR2IIh-M1m7Rvphy5C49dpXItVjKw-HpCbNlkr1i3fh9F8QQoTKhBTFb22o

Yehhh.. so all the studies there show that masks may work in tandem with social distancing and handwashing. Which is exactly the governments guidelines.
One of the papers say that masks need to be even more protective, you need the N95 masks, not the crap disposable face coverings.

None of them say that mask wearing is worse than no mask.
All call for better masks and more barriers between virus carriers and non-virus carriers, which again, is government policy.

You're calling for the end of masks and end of lockdown. NONE of the studies shows this to be good. You can't have it both ways. No mask = socially isolate.

That took me 5 minutes.

A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.

While influenza virus could be detected by RT–PCR in all nine volunteers without a mask, no influenza virus could be detected on the Petri dish specimens when participants wore either type of face mask. A limitation was that the study did not consider the role of leakage around the sides of the mask

Physical barriers would be most effective in limiting shortdistance transmission by direct or indirect contact and large droplet spread, while more comprehensive precautions would be required to prevent infection at longer distances via airborne spread of small (nuclei) droplet particles [19].

The third study is comparing n95 masks and surgical masks and says they're the same. Not enough evidence to show a statistical significance.

We found evidence to support universal medical mask use in hospital settings as part of infection control measures to reduce the risk of CRI and ILI among HCWs. Overall, N95 respirators may convey greater protection, but universal use throughout a work shift is likely to be less acceptable due to
greater discomfort. Our analysis confirms the effectiveness of medical masks and respirators against SARS. Disposable, cotton, or paper masks are not recommended.

Timberrrrrrrr

bfa1509 wrote: »

Sorry I forgot to include your solid counter response to everything: "Nothing is true unless it has a peer reviewed research article"

I guess you can't question anything unless you have a pHD in the topic eh?

I can post 10 video's here all containing blatant lies, from flat earth to lizard overlords, should I just assume you would take them as truth or would you (rightly) call me out on them?

Padre_Pio

bfa1509 wrote: »

Sorry I forgot to include your solid counter response to everything: "Nothing is true unless it has a peer reviewed research article"

I guess you can't question anything unless you have a pHD in the topic eh?

You can question of course. But base your opinion on facts, not internet nonsense.
Actually READ the papers, and understand them.

F8cking numpties talking about epidemiology like they're experts. I'm no expert, so I'm going to follow the guidance of those who are.

Sconsey

bfa1509 wrote: »

I always have to laugh at the response conspiracy theories get on boards. Such outrage. The response tends to follow this pattern:

1) Question the OPs mental state
2) Dismiss everything as right wing so therefore not true
3) Post an opposing link from clear left-wing news site and claim it as being the holy gospel
4) Accuse the OP of being an anti-vaxxer or spreading misinformation that threatens the safety of the public or even causes people to carry out mass shootings

The conspiracy forum is plagued with these types, it always makes me laugh. I'm not saying the theories have any truth to them but the anger in response isn't justified for simply not having strong enough counter-arguments.

1) Yep I am afraid so
2) Not just right wing in this case, complete pseudo-science also and absolute nonsense, No basis in fact or truth
3) Nope, but happy to post independently peer-reviewed scientific research. No political agenda driving the conclusions.
4) Nope, not in this case, just genuinely concerned that this guy losing sleep absorbing this muck.

Don2012

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

you're right, people should just be left alone to post whatever lies they want without being questioned about them at all.

LIES!!!?? Who said any of this is lies!! Just go back to sleep and do as your told, never think for yourself and wait for instructions from LV and MM and RTÉ on what do do next.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

Go to the part where it says "What do your results mean?"
*If you test positive
A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.*

Overheal

bfa1509 wrote: »

I always have to laugh at the response conspiracy theories get on boards. Such outrage. The response tends to follow this pattern:

1) Question the OPs mental state
2) Dismiss everything as right wing so therefore not true
3) Post an opposing link from clear left-wing news site and claim it as being the holy gospel
4) Accuse the OP of being an anti-vaxxer or spreading misinformation that threatens the safety of the public or even causes people to carry out mass shootings

The conspiracy forum is plagued with these types, it always makes me laugh. I'm not saying the theories have any truth to them but the anger in response isn't justified for simply not having strong enough counter-arguments.

I don’t know what conspiracy forum you’re referring to but your 4 steps theory doesn’t apply here.

Don2012

Sconsey wrote: »

1) Yep I am afraid so
2) Not just right wing in this case, complete pseudo-science also and absolute nonsense, No basis in fact or truth
3) Nope, but happy to post independently peer-reviewed scientific research. No political agenda driving the conclusions.
4) Nope, not in this case, just genuinely concerned that this guy losing sleep absorbing this muck.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

Go to the part where it says, "What do your results mean?"
If you test positive
A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.

bfa1509

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I can post 10 video's here all containing blatant lies, from flat earth to lizard overlords, should I just assume you would take them as truth or would you (rightly) call me out on them?

If I had the time I would question the idea presented in the videos and present a counter-argument rather than just dismissing them as not being from a peer reviewed article so therefore not true.

In Einstein's era, there were hundreds of well regarded scientists who presented counter-arguments to a lot of the dubious scientific methods he used but no company would publish the articles out of fear of falling out of favour with the public due to Einstein's celebrity status. Arguments don't need peer reveiwed articles to be arguments.

ForstalDave

Don2012 wrote: »

Holohan let it slip in mid April that this virus had peaked and retracted his statement the following day. The Aussie flu that came to Ireland two years ago was deadly, I know many that had it including myself but the whole country was shut down because of that!!

It was not as deadly as this which is the whole point this is very deadly to a select part of socieity, my wife being one of them

eggy81

Don2012 wrote: »

Healthcare professionals wear masks when in contact with people who have a contiguous disease or illness, not around health people. Your point is ridiculous. Healthy people wearing masks weaken the immune system which come winter results in immune system not being about to do its job.

We only have to wear masks in shop's. Not in open air.

Guy:Incognito

Don2012 wrote: »

LIES!!!?? Who said any of this is lies!!

"Masks weaken the immune system"

Padre_Pio

Don2012 wrote: »

LIES!!!?? Who said any of this is lies!! Just go back to sleep and do as your told, never think for yourself and wait for instructions from LV and MM and RTÉ on what do do next.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

Go to the part where it says "What do your results mean?"
*If you test positive
A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.*

MM and LV and RTE don't think for themselves either. They follow medical advice.
When I'm sick, I go to a doctor.
When I need my hair cut, I go to a barber.
When I need an extension built, I call a builder.
When the toilet breaks, I call a plumber.

That's me being practical and replying on experts, not me being a sheep because I won't look at a few Youtube videos and have a crack at it myself.

Overheal

Don2012 wrote: »

Coronaviruses are from the same family as the common cold/flu. If you want to believe the WHO and politicans that's your choice, but don't expect those that can see this for what it is to comply.

What family is that?

Don2012

Padre_Pio wrote: »

You can question of course. But base your opinion on facts, not internet nonsense.
Actually READ the papers, and understand them.

F8cking numpties talking about epidemiology like they're experts. I'm no expert, so I'm going to follow the guidance of those who are.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

Check this out from the link I provided.
"What do your results mean?
If you test positive"
*A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.*

Look, watch the daily briefing from RTE, live off every word they tell you but do some research for yourself too.

Sconsey

Don2012 wrote: »

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

Go to the part where it says, "What do your results mean?"
If you test positive
A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.

What point are you making here? some people may have been exposed to similar strains of covid? I think the scientific community know that, I think it's the reason the Oxford vaccine got such a good head-start, they were already working on a similar strain to Covid 19.

What conclusion have you come to based on this?

Guy:Incognito

eggy81 wrote: »

We only have to wear masks in shop's. Not in open air.

The fact of it is, if we wore masks in shops etc all the time, rates of all communicable illnesses would drop.

People keep banging on about it all being for covid and "the flu will come back around in the winter".

Well, why don't we just keep wearing the masks so........


Plus, the " governments are tracking us all with facial recognition" conspiracies seem to have died off and now they're all saying the governments want us to wear masks for some other control.