Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Rrrrrr2

daheff wrote: »

Plenty of ways for people to talk with others so they are not isolated. Ever heard of the telephone, email, zoom,FaceTime, WhatsApp,Skype etc???

While it's not the same as in person, it's not isolation.

These are all jaded boring rubbish at this stage. People enjoy and need physical human interaction. And it isn’t obligatory either, if you’re uncomfortable you don’t have to partake

FintanMcluskey

Claire Byrnes only visible talent is asking a question, interrupting the answer and also answering the question at the same time.

eleventh

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Actually, its more of an epidemic in Ireland, not a pandemic.

a scamdemic, technically

FintanMcluskey

Leo has fired Tony under a bus here.

He wont do that again

Tony I mean, that leak last night was criminal

He cant hold the country to ransom

snowcat

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Leo has fired Tony under a bus here.

He wont do that again

Tony and nphet getting a right dressing down. Proper order. Well done Leo.

Grandeeod

greengrass88 wrote: »

See this https://www.athboyfamilypractice.com/2020/09/novel-coronavirus/

Says in level 3 that pubs cafes and restaurants are open with additional restrictions for indoor dining. When you look at level 4 it says 15 people for outdoor only - based on this dublin would be on level 4 in terms of bars/cafes/restaurants

The level 3 additional restrictions for indoor dining/drinking is outdoor dining/drinking instead, limited to 15 people. From midnight tomorrow any restaurant/pub that can't facilitate this will be effectively closed.

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

Tony and nphet getting a right dressing down. Proper order. Well done Leo.

very well done Leo, sounding like a boss! Finally:)

Fair play to Leo!!! Excellent stuff!

FintanMcluskey

Deleted User wrote: »

very well done Leo, sounding like a boss! Finally:)

He was very articulate.

Held no punches

agoodpunt

resignations NPHET clowns people dont trust you, got away with trollies before covid 19 well done Leo tonight

km79

Grandeeod wrote: »

The level 3 additional restrictions for indoor dining/drinking is outdoor dining/drinking instead, limited to 15 people. From midnight tomorrow any restaurant/pub that can't facilitate this will be effectively closed.

It’s all so confusing !
What about hotels ? It says “services “ are for residents only
Are the bar and restaurants “services “?
Is indoor dining therefore allowed ? We have a 2 day break booked in our own county in a coupe of weeks .
If the restaurant and bar are open to residents we might still go
Sounds like it will be nice and quiet !

Rrrrrr2

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Some people enjoy the food, drink and socialising. These are things that keep people going. Just because you do none of these doesn’t give you the right to take them away or ridicule their importance for others.
I find your kind of dismissive attitude a hell of a lot more distasteful tbh

And I did all of these things, multiple times most weeks proper to the virus outbreak but I’m doing just fine without them until it’s safe to do so again.

We even managed without takeaway from March to June and did all our own cooking again from people who got takeaway twice most weeks. The off-licences never closed either and I’d say I’ve single handedly filled one of the brown glass bottle banks such is the amount of beer I’ve gone through since early March all without setting foot in a pub. I love the pub but I have no problem staying away until the pandemic is over.

FintanMcluskey

Hahaha Sam is on now

Lord jeasus

Talking about the underworld

murpho999

agoodpunt wrote: »

resignations NPHET clowns people dont trust you, got away with trollies before covid 19 well done Leo tonight

Resignations for having a different opinion to the government?

Seriously, that's not how things work.

The leak last night was wrong and they've clearly had their knuckles wrapped.

Government have taken a chance today but not following their advice but if the government have gotten it wrong then they may end up following their advice in the end.

Grandeeod

km79 wrote: »

It’s all so confusing !
What about hotels ? It says “services “ are for residents only
Are the bar and restaurants “services “?
Is indoor dining therefore allowed ? We have a 2 day break booked in our own county in a coupe of weeks .
If the restaurant and bar are open to residents we might still go
Sounds like it will be nice and quiet !

According to Level 3 restrictions, Hotel guests are limited to "essential" guests and not "leisure" guests. They'll be in touch with you or you should get in touch with them to clarify.

km79

Grandeeod wrote: »

According to Level 3 restrictions, Hotel guests are limited to "essential" guests and not "leisure" guests. They'll be in touch with you or you should get in touch with them to clarify.

Thanks
That’s the decision made so

normanoffside

Thank feck for that show tonight. Finally a bit of sanity returned to the governance of the country.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Actually, its more of an epidemic in Ireland, not a pandemic.



(Penfailed style post)

Who's being a díck to who again?

Penfailed

eleventh wrote: »

a scamdemic, technically

Conspiracy thread >>>

walus

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Hahaha Sam is on now

Lord jeasus

Talking about the underworld

Living with tiger in the house, doing circles above Gatwick... what’s next I wonder...

Ginger n Lemon

There were 13 people on ICU beds with positive covid PCR test on 15 September.
Today there are 23 people on ICU beds with positive PCR test.

in 20 days, we've had 10 extra people go on ICU beds with covid.

Now, for each one of those individuals, 18,000 will go on PUP tomorrow onward for a minimum of 3 weeks.

I am absolutely fuming. This is beyond madness. How can the "cabinet" vote for this nonsense??

People arent even bloody dying thats the most astonishing thing. Now we base our decisions on models (how did that go last time around) and pure fear of "ohh our health service is poor every year, lets be extra careful this year, put hundreds of thousands out of work and then look for IMF funding for our healthcare next year"

Christ

Idbatterim

BoatMad wrote: »

Gov told NPHET to F off back to the Lab. NPHET is a bunch of chancers gone mad with power.

Why doesn’t RTÉ and Newstalk challenge these so called experts

Too backwards and stupid. The irish medua failing, is actually a serious threat to the country. Stop buying or subscribing to any of their echo chamber agenda driven bs!

_Kaiser_

Only getting to watch Michael's speech now. Any details on how they plan to increase enforcement of the "advice"?

It's all still advisory is it not?

Ginger n Lemon

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Only getting to watch Michael's speech now. Any details on how they plan to increase enforcement of the "advice"?

It's all still advisory is it not?

Yes, and it always will be thanks to the constitution. As Ryanair's legal case recently showed with regards to foreign travel (I strongly assume foreign travel, and domestic travel would fare on similar grounds)

The phrase he used is "enforce the guidelines". Which pretty much summarizes the level of IQ in the "cabinet" currently.

Lundstram

Could watch this on a loop for hours. Briliiant.

https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1313231457406595082?s=20

almostover

Lundstram wrote: »

Since as long as I can remember, our health service has been a laughing stock. Brendan Gleeson went on the Late Late Show one night and sat there crying at the treatment of his dying mother. No bed for her. She died on a trolley. No dignity. Government after government promised to tackle this but their solution was to pump billions upon billions without improvement.

€21bn was sunk into the HSE in 2019, we currently have one of the lowest rates of ICU beds in Europe. Ireland, the richest country in Europe per capita. Highest number of college graduates in Europe per capita. Voted as 4th best country in Europe to live, extremely high standard of living.

Here we are now, 7 months into a global pandemic and our government have done little to improve our ICU shortfall, they've done nothing really.

Governments kicked the HSE can down the road year after year, election after election and now it laid bare for all to see. It's caught up with us.

We will now pay for this in the worst way possible, our livelihoods and our freedom.

Whats scares me most is not Covid19, not money but how easily the vast majority of Irish people give up their freedom.

No questions.

We get what we vote for. At the end of the day Paddy Irishman/Patricia Irishwoman votes for whoever's will line their pockets most. We are caught in a spiral where we have hopeless public services, young people can't afford homes and we have 'full employment' where swathes of people are on the bread line working low paid jobs and are living in squalor. COVID has exposed all the rotten festering ills of our society, one where we have modern day slaves working in meat factories and people more or less imprisoned in direct provision. One where a good portion of the general public cant control themselves to suppress a deadly virus for the benefit of older generations who built much of the wealth that we now enjoy. Ireland is a great country but we badly need to hit the reset button and reevaluate what's important.

_Kaiser_

Watching Leo on Claire Byrne now (god she's awful as an interviewer - I'm no fan of Leo but STFU and let him answer your question)

He just threw Tony and NPHET under the bus in the first 2 minutes.

Leo going off-script again?

bush

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

We even managed without takeaway from March to June

Hero right here

Stormyteacup

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Yes, and it always will be thanks to the constitution. As Ryanair's legal case recently showed with regards to foreign travel (I strongly assume foreign travel, and domestic travel would fare on similar grounds)

The phrase he used is "enforce the guidelines". Which pretty much summarizes the level of IQ in the "cabinet" currently.

Yes all very vague - another quote is ‘renewed commitment to enforcement of restrictions’, which I reckon signals no further legislation just continuation of any current legislation.

Tenzor07

Lundstram wrote: »

Could watch this on a loop for hours. Briliiant.

Hope he will say the same for the 206,000 people who are on the PUP now and the 1000's more in Aviation, tourism/hospitality sectors who are also struggling with paying mortgages, bills etc...