Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Inquitus

Inquitus wrote: »

And how would someone who convalesced at home with a mild case who has scarring of the heart know this right now? Magic?

There is a conspiracy theory forum where you can discuss such things

Plumbthedepths

Inquitus wrote: »

And how would someone who convalesced at home with a mild case who has scarring of the heart know this right now? Magic?

Myocarditis is a common reaction by the body in response to viral infections

hynesie08

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

The denial of how serious covid is from some in here is laughable.

I agree nox, I'm glad you're coming around. If we lockdown like you suggest, it will be very serious.

FintanMcluskey

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

The denial of how serious covid is from some in here is laughable.

The denial is in the statistics and figures.

The hysteria is from those who cant understand them

Inquitus

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a conspiracy theory forum where you can discuss such things

This is real science and the impact unknown at this point.

There may be more cases of mild effects of COVID-19 on the heart that can be diagnosed with special imaging tests, including in younger people with mild or minimal symptoms; however, the long-term significance of these mild effects on the heart are unknown. CDC will continue to assess and provide updates as new data emerge.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html

sabat

Multipass wrote: »

Why are they reporting a ‘significant escalation’ of 10 deaths, when in fact 8 of those are pre September? How is that escalation if they were in the past?

And hospitalisations are down too, with ICU numbers the same. It's just blatant lying.

CruelSummer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The pro restrictions crowd have really lost the plot today. All talk is on water cannons, army, fines, forcing people to comply... Hoping our Gardaí will start beating people in the streets!

Insane stuff. And these people think they are saving lives haha

Crikey I tried a stint on the other thread where hmmm became alarmed some of us relaxation of restrictions folk think we’ve got a voice & proceeded to call us out for having opinions he disagrees with. Apparently incase anyone over there gets any ideas, we’re all the crazies. And those sensible folk calling for a communist state, army on the streets, water canons, etc, are completely sane.

freak scence

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It is and where do you see the attempt at Modding?

you yabbering on to posters

Stormyteacup

Inquitus wrote: »

What about the long term damage it can do to you, even in mild cases, deaths is not the be all and end all of this, some people will get through it fine but have to live with the impacts for the rest of their lives, along with the associated additional cost to the HSE.

‘Long Covid’ needs to be backed up with statistics at this point.

After seven months have we not accumulated enough data on Covid to demonstrate what it’s post-viral effects are in relation to normal base-line post-virus effects after seven months?

How can headline grabbing worst-case anecdotes be read as proof of widespread ‘long Covid’?

If the stats tell us that a large number of ‘recovered’ are suffering life-altering after-effects, above and beyond rare after-effects from existing viruses, then we can stand to be corrected.

But as of now? No evidence whatsoever that long term effects in the 99.9% recovered are more prevalent than those outlier, albeit possibly vicious, side-effects from other viruses (the ones you don’t read about in the headlines - example, losing limbs post-influenza, but which happen nonetheless).

freak scence

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Myocarditis is a common reaction by the body in response to viral infections

are you a md ?

eleventh

People with no symptoms being tested are basically voting for increased lockdown. It seems to be a coin toss as to whether positive/negative result shows up.
Stop going for tests, unless you're actually ill, and "cases" will go down.

Plumbthedepths

freak scence wrote: »

you yabbering on to posters

Yabbering? Sorry I have no idea what that word means. Can you explain it please

Inquitus

eleventh wrote: »

Stop going for tests, unless you're actually ill, and "cases" will go down.

You seem to be getting better Donald, hope the food in Walter Reed is good.

Plumbthedepths

freak scence wrote: »

are you a md ?

What's the relevance of your question?

eleventh

Inquitus wrote:

This is real science and the impact unknown at this point.

Quote:
There may be more cases of mild effects of COVID-19 on the heart that can be diagnosed with special imaging tests, including in younger people with mild or minimal symptoms; however, the long-term significance of these mild effects on the heart are unknown. CDC will continue to assess and provide updates as new data emerge.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...m-effects.html

That's not science in any true sense. The clue is in the bolded part.

3xh

Here is a link to a letter from Glynn to Donnelly on 01/10/2020 outlining NPHET’s fears, recommendations, etc.

Of note, ‘....significant number of active clusters/outbreaks, the majority of which CONTINUE TO BE IN PRIVATE HOUSEHOLDS’

Perhaps publicans and restauranteurs are right to question the logic of shutting/restricting these places and pushing people towards house gatherings.

Also, ‘There has been a very sharp rise in the incidence of 19-24 year old age cohort in the last two weeks, while there continued to be an INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES AND INCIDENCE RATE IN OLDER PEOPLE’

Yet all we’ve heard since September in the media is young people young people......
Older people shouldn’t have any excuse at this stage, albeit as random as Covid is.

Finally, I think someone questioned it here earlier but NPHET is endorsing the extension of the Regulations in relation to mandatory face coverings on public transport and certain retail settings. So expect that sunset clause in those S.I.s to be extended.

https://assets.gov.ie/89647/a3bb9af9-5126-497d-b851-e91b529af774.pdf

drunkmonkey

3xh wrote: »

Finally, I think someone questioned it here earlier but NPHET is endorsing the extension of the Regulations in relation to mandatory face coverings on public transport and certain retail settings. So expect that sunset clause in those S.I.s to be extended.

https://assets.gov.ie/89647/a3bb9af9-5126-497d-b851-e91b529af774.pdf

It's in nearly all retail settings, it should be reduced to shopping centers and public transport.

If they keep it up the protests will only get bigger and that's a problem for government. There looks like a substantial crowd at the protest today, linky

boetstark

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I suspect when we look back we’ll be wondering why we burned the country to the ground for a very mild illness that mainly kills people above life expectancy age.

Don’t suppose you are ever going to answer whether your job or salary have been impacted?

I can see the lunacy in posters suggesting to lock the country indefinitely, what happens when we open up , cases will increase again.
However your post is absolutely a crazy wind up or you are incredibly thick.
It is NOT a mild flu. It is killing mostly older people but it is a lottery when it comes to younger people.

Zebra3

boetstark wrote: »

It is killing mostly older people but it is a lottery when it comes to younger people.

Correct about it being a lottery for the young. Very little chance of them hitting the jackpot.

What percentage of old people is it killing?

What percentage of old people who get covid is it killing?

freak scence

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yabbering? Sorry I have no idea what that word means. Can you explain it please

a machine called google does and you don't hmm

freak scence

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What's the relevance of your question?

your iq seems to be on the lower side , that's two questions you are having problems with

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pjohnson

Inquitus wrote: »

This is real science and the impact unknown at this point.



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html

This isnt the type of scientific information this thread craves. You need to alternative up that information.

3xh

Zebra3 wrote: »

Correct about it being a lottery for the young. Very little chance of them hitting the jackpot.

What percentage of old people is it killing?

What percentage of old people who get covid is it killing?

Don’t know about percentages but in the latest update on the gov.ie website, between that update and the day before, there were 6 people between 75-84yrs and 4 people +85yrs added to the case figures.

Separately, there was 1 new hospitalised case in the 75-84yr age bracket. There was 0 new hospitalisations in the +85yr age bracket.

Figures given for the 15-24yr group are slightly higher as expected.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/5a3f4-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-3-october/

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's in nearly all retail settings, it should be reduced to shopping centers and public transport.

If they keep it up the protests will only get bigger and that's a problem for government. There looks like a substantial crowd at the protest today, linky

A gathering of the most stupid people in the country, all total wasters and Gemma fan club members.

Ginger n Lemon

boetstark wrote: »

I can see the lunacy in posters suggesting to lock the country indefinitely, what happens when we open up , cases will increase again.
However your post is absolutely a crazy wind up or you are incredibly thick.
It is NOT a mild flu. It is killing mostly older people but it is a lottery when it comes to younger people.

You are right, your odds of dying from covid if you are young are those of winning euromillions.

boetstark

boetstark wrote: »

I can see the lunacy in posters suggesting to lock the country indefinitely, what happens when we open up , cases will increase again.
However your post is absolutely a crazy wind up or you are incredibly thick.
It is NOT a mild flu. It is killing mostly older people but it is a lottery when it comes to younger people.

Pay no heed to him and his spamming about salaries being impacted as if it invalidates an opinion if it isn’t.

Ginger n Lemon

pjohnson wrote: »

This isnt the type of scientific information this thread craves. You need to alternative up that information.

PJ I am happy to see you are limiting your social contacts and posting here late in the evening. Good lad. Now repeat this for next 10 weeks, they are crucial.

Plumbthedepths

freak scence wrote: »

your iq seems to be on the lower side , that's two questions you are having problems with

I have no problem with either of your questions. I asked you what yabbering means, Google is not an answer.
What my profession is has nothing got it do with my comment about Myocarditis. Do you think only people holding a qualification in a certain field are the only ones allowed to comment on matters pertaining to their field of expertise?

Sephiroth_dude

freak scence wrote: »

your iq seems to be on the lower side , that's two questions you are having problems with

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Jackman25

Zebra3 wrote: »

We're just coming off a full moon to be fair....

They cant even howl at it for fear of spreading the Covid.