Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Ginger n Lemon

hmmm wrote: »

There is no tradeoff between hospital capacity and anything else. No government is going to say "well the ICUs will be full, but we can keep the pubs open so let's consider that as an option!"

The bottom line is that we cannot allow our hospitals to become over-run. The question then is how far can we relax restrictions to prevent this from happening.

If certain groups would just do the basics - wearing masks, social distancing, not acting the maggot with house parties etc they would contribute a lot more to the economy than all their protests will ever achieve.

Werent you waffling about V shape economic recovery August onward, back in May?

Well that didnt go according to plan did it.

You lost a lot of credibility there, rendering your post worthless.

Jackman25

Dont anyone tell me that the main thread in this forum is the sane one.
Chock full of terrified mentallers tonight.

Plumbthedepths

Jackman25 wrote: »

Dont anyone tell me that the main thread in this forum is the sane one.
Chock full of terrified mentallers tonight.

Yeah one deranged individual calling for Tianmmen Square type response from government another wants others denied medical help.
The lunatics are taking over the asylum, Mods missing in action.
Edit
The deranged individual is now banned.

3xh

3xh wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-ireland-10-further-deaths-and-613-new-cases-39584983.html

Same again from the Indo. Top news item and the first words in the article are ‘10 further deaths......’

It’s then said, ‘Eight of the 10 deaths confirmed occurred prior to September 2020’ Today’s date is October 3rd. Not good enough, imo. This isn’t a GDPR issue as multiple people die every single day. This coyness isn’t about patient/family confidentiality.

If they know the deaths occurred prior to September, they know the exact dates.

As for the other two, they could’ve occurred on September 1st.

How likely is it we’ll be hearing about these deaths being denotified months from now.

As for the 613 new cases, further proof it’s simply a game of bingo at this stage. The numbers are meaningless.

Open up!

Edited to add; the HPSC has also reduced the death total by 1 today, 03/10/2020. And cases have also been reduced by 8.

I didn’t see that in the Indo report, of course. No excuse for it.

3xh

For those who want the more factual stuff, this is the link to the official state info as it’s released. https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/5a3f4-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-3-october/

Gives a good breakdown of trends, totals, ages, areas, etc.

I see travel is still only seen as the cause in the 2.3% of cases.

hmmm

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Werent you waffling about V shape economic recovery August onward, back in May?

Well that didnt go according to plan did it.

You lost a lot of credibility there, rendering your post worthless.

It would if I said that, which I didn't.

hmmm

hynesie08 wrote: »

I don't disagree with any of that.

I disagree with people like nox who say stupid **** like "lock everything down for 6 months" because in their fantasy land, there's a magic key that will restore the economy the day we reopen.......

I suspect when we look back at this after it's over, and we're preparing for any future pandemics, we'll consider whether it was possible to put some industries essentially into deep freeze for the duration.

The next pandemic might be something that transmits differently, and we'll have a different set of restrictions - e.g. if it was 1918 again where younger people were at risk, we would have schools shut.

Plumbthedepths

Getting upset because others don't share your opinion. Strange post when you are posting here.


https://touch.boards.ie/thread/reply/2058115806/post/114812507

FintanMcluskey

hmmm wrote: »

I suspect when we look back at this after it's over, and we're preparing for any future pandemics, we'll consider whether it was possible to put some industries essentially into deep freeze for the duration.

The next pandemic might be something that transmits differently, and we'll have a different set of restrictions - e.g. if it was 1918 again where younger people were at risk, we would have schools shut.

Of course we would.

Luckily with a median age of 84, most victims wernt in school this time

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

I suspect when we look back at this after it's over, and we're preparing for any future pandemics, we'll consider whether it was possible to put some industries essentially into deep freeze for the duration.

The next pandemic might be something that transmits differently, and we'll have a different set of restrictions - e.g. if it was 1918 again where younger people were at risk, we would have schools shut.

I suspect when we look back we’ll be wondering why we burned the country to the ground for a very mild illness that mainly kills people above life expectancy age.

Don’t suppose you are ever going to answer whether your job or salary have been impacted?

hmmm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Getting upset because others don't share your opinion. Strange post when you are posting here.

Do any of you actually address the topic, or is it all just personal attacks?

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

Do any of you actually address the topic, or is it all just personal attacks?

You are the one whinging on another thread about this entire thread. Perhaps just stay away if you don’t like the opinions?

freak scence

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yeah one deranged individual calling for Tianmmen Square type response from government another wants others denied medical help.
The lunatics are taking over the asylum, Mods missing in action.
Edit
The deranged individual is now banned.

thought back seat moding was banned

hmmm

Deleted User wrote: »

Don’t suppose you are ever going to answer whether your job or salary have been impacted?

Your obsession with me is a bit strange. I work in the private sector and have been affected, but that doesn't mean I think that letting the virus run rampant is going to help the economy.

If we don't get control of the virus, people are going to be too afraid to leave their houses and spend money. Control the virus, we can reopen more.

Just because people here don't care about the people this virus will kill, or have convinced themselves the virus is trivial, does not mean your views are accepted by the rest of the country/world. Wear a bloody mask, get with the program and stop hurting the economy.

The pro restrictions crowd have really lost the plot today. All talk is on water cannons, army, fines, forcing people to comply... Hoping our Gardaí will start beating people in the streets!

Insane stuff. And these people think they are saving lives haha

Plumbthedepths

hmmm wrote: »

Do any of you actually address the topic, or is it all just personal attacks?

Didn't you just attack everyone here who disagrees with you on the other thread. Do you see the irony in your comment.
Pointing out that you appear to have an issue with opposing opinions is not a personal attack it's an observation.

Plumbthedepths

freak scence wrote: »

thought back seat moding was banned

It is and where do you see the attempt at Modding?

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

Your obsession with me is a bit strange. I work in the private sector and have been affected, but that doesn't mean I think that letting the virus run rampant is going to help the economy.

If we don't get control of the virus, people are going to be too afraid to leave their houses and spend money. Control the virus, we can reopen more.

Just because people here don't care about the people this virus will kill, or have convinced themselves the virus is trivial, does not mean your views are accepted by the rest of the country/world. Wear a bloody mask, get with the program and stop hurting the economy.

I have seen no evidence to suggest that people will be too afraid to leave the house. Except for maybe a few oddballs on the main thread.

The illness is harmless for most.

Higher case numbers with tiny deaths is brilliant.
It proves how mild Covid really is.

3xh

Hmmm, do you find Dr. Feeley obnoxious?

Do you find the actions of his former employer towards him obnoxious after he first spoke out?

hmmm

3xh wrote: »

Hmmm, do you find Dr. Feeley obnoxious?

Do you find the actions of his former employer towards him obnoxious after he first spoke out?

I didn't hear him interviewed sorry, I genuinely have no idea what his arguments are.

hmmm

Deleted User wrote: »

It proves how mild Covid really is.

And as long as you keep saying that, the less seriously you will be taken outside of this thread.

Why are you so scared of the truth? Is it just because you think *you* will not be affected?

Zebra3

Jackman25 wrote: »

Dont anyone tell me that the main thread in this forum is the sane one.
Chock full of terrified mentallers tonight.

We're just coming off a full moon to be fair....

Multipass

Why are they reporting a ‘significant escalation’ of 10 deaths, when in fact 8 of those are pre September? How is that escalation if they were in the past?

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

And as long as you keep saying that, the less seriously you will be taken outside of this thread.

Why are you so scared of the truth? Is it just because you think *you* will not be affected?

It is mild though. Every stat suggests as much.

Inquitus

Deleted User wrote: »

I have seen no evidence to suggest that people will be too afraid to leave the house. Except for maybe a few oddballs on the main thread.

The illness is harmless for most.

Higher case numbers with tiny deaths is brilliant.
It proves how mild Covid really is.

What about the long term damage it can do to you, even in mild cases, deaths is not the be all and end all of this, some people will get through it fine but have to live with the impacts for the rest of their lives, along with the associated additional cost to the HSE.

3xh

hmmm wrote: »

I didn't hear him interviewed sorry, I genuinely have no idea what his arguments are.

Yet you’re here on boards slagging us obnoxious folk. Give over. You’re smarter than that. I’ll pretend you did see him, as well as read his IT article too, but have chosen to look the other way.

His speaking out and the treatment of him by his employer, is a watershed moment in this Covid story. Without being au-fait with the interview or his arguments, you’re seriously at a disadvantage to the discussion.

Inquitus

Inquitus wrote: »

What about the long term damage it can do to you, even in mild cases, deaths is not the be all and end all of this, some people will get through it fine but have to live with the impacts for the rest of their lives, along with the associated additional cost to the HSE.

Some people get long term effects from flu, chest infections etc.

Generally a tiny percentage.

Most people testing positive with Covid don’t even have any symptoms, let alone long term effects.

The denial of how serious covid is from some in here is laughable.

Inquitus

Inquitus wrote: »

What about the long term damage it can do to you, even in mild cases, deaths is not the be all and end all of this, some people will get through it fine but have to live with the impacts for the rest of their lives, along with the associated additional cost to the HSE.

Some people get long term effects from flu, chest infections etc.

Generally a tiny percentage.

Most people testing positive with Covid don’t even have any symptoms, let alone long term effects.

Inquitus

Deleted User wrote: »

Some people get long term effects from flu, chest infections etc.

Generally a tiny percentage.

Most people testing positive with Covid don’t even have any symptoms, let alone long term effects.

And how would someone who convalesced at home with a mild case who has scarring of the heart know this right now? Magic?