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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #9812
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,665 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
    I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
    They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.


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    #9813
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I wouldn't wish death on Trump, but frankly don't really care if he does die. If someone goes out playing in traffic every day for most of the year and encourages others to do likewise while ignoring and even mocking those trying to warn them of the dangers of playing in traffic, it is inevitable that some of them will get hit by cars.

    Boris and his handshaking fiasco was no different, and while I wouldn't have wished death on him either there is a good chance that the public may have taken more heed of the dangers of Covid far earlier had he not been able to get through it.

    So no wishes for death here, but I'll save my wishes for good health and making it through for the people trying to avoid the virus that his rhetoric has put at risk, and for the likes of the children he has removed from their parents and thrown in concentration camps rather than Trump himself.


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    #9814
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    I wouldn't wish death on Trump, but frankly don't really care if he does die. If someone goes out playing in traffic every day for most of the year and encourages others to do likewise while ignoring and even mocking those trying to warn them of the dangers of playing in traffic, it is inevitable that some of them will get hit by cars.

    Boris and his handshaking fiasco was no different, and while I wouldn't have wished death on him either there is a good chance that the public may have taken more heed of the dangers of Covid far earlier had he not been able to get through it.

    So no wishes for death here, but I'll save my wishes for good health and making it through for the people trying to avoid the virus that his rhetoric has put at risk, and for the likes of the children he has removed from their parents and thrown in concentration camps rather than Trump himself.

    YOU EVIL BASTARD something something.

    Really don’t understand what the crybaby anti-liberals have such an issue with people correctly pointing out that he didn’t take this seriously enough and now he’s paying the price.


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    #9815
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Am yet to see 'death wishes' on trump from anyone of note in the Democratic party, as for the rest who are labeled with being Democrats, it is what it is


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    #9816
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

    Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?


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    #9817
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Who gives a toss if he dies or not, makes no difference to us.


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    #9818
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Am yet to see 'death wishes' on trump from anyone of note in the Democratic party, as for the rest who are labeled with being Democrats, it is what it is
    Ah, but Zara Rahim tweeted it! That Democratic superstar who we'd all been very familiar with before today.



    The Democratic Party platform is basically the Zara Rahim platform, obviously.


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    #9819
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?

    No, they can’t


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    #9820
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
    I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
    They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.

    The difference is people are quoting no-marks wishing Trump ill anď saying thus is representative of Democrats, while Biden, Harris, Obama and others have wished him well. When the Republicans get nasty, it comes right from the top.


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    #9821
    extra gravy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,555 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.

    What Democrats have wished death on him? I'm sure you can provide quotes to corroborate your statement.


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    #9822
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    The difference is people are quoting no-marks wishing Trump ill anď saying thus is representative of Democrats, while Biden, Harris, Obama and others have wished him well. When the Republicans get nasty, it comes right from the top.

    Rachel Maddow put it quite well I thought having wished Trump et al a speedy recovery she explained how it is possible to be critical of someones actions and still have sympathy with them succumbing to those actions
    "If you know someone who smoked for years and years and years and never even tried to quit despite knowing the risks of lung cancer from smoking and then that person who you know got lung cancer, how do you react to that?" she asked. "Well, part of the way you react is that you understand why they likely got it. Your instinct might even be to blame them for getting it. Go right ahead. Enjoy that schadenfreude.

    "But also, you're a human being in this situation," Maddow explained. "If your friend has lung cancer now, regardless of what you feel about how he or she got it, once you find out that they're ill, you wish and hope and try to save them, right? You get them into treatment. You help them try to survive it. You move heaven and earth to cure them. That's how we do as humans! That's how this works!"


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    #9823
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Rachel Maddow put it quite well I thought having wished Trump et al a speedy recovery she explained how it is possible to be critical of someones actions and still have sympathy with them succumbing to those actions

    It's a poor analogy, Trump isn't just an average citizen who has caught the virus, he was leader of the country and has arguably been responsible for 200,000 deaths due to his mishandling of the virus and has shown little to no empathy. To compare him to a smoker who simply got long cancer through their own actions is an injustice to the smoker.


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    #9824
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    It's a poor analogy, Trump isn't just an average citizen who has caught the virus, he was leader of the country and has arguably been responsible for 200,000 deaths due to his mishandling of the virus and has shown little to no empathy. To compare him to a smoker who simply got long cancer through their own actions is an injustice to the smoker.

    Perhaps, it's an attempt to explain how we can both have sympathy at a human level but still be angry with the person for their actions.

    Maybe the better comparison would be with a Tobacco exec getting lung cancer, but the underlying message remains the same I think.


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    #9825
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
    I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
    They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.

    Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

    Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #9826
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Brian? wrote: »
    Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

    Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

    Oh who cares, we all know Americans are extremely fake. None of them mean anything really. They are an individualistic society.


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    #9827
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Oh who cares, we all know Americans are extremely fake. None of them mean anything really. They are an individualistic society.

    I care that people are coming on here and telling lies.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #9828
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Brian? wrote: »
    I care that people are coming on here and telling lies.

    About the Democrats?


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    #9829
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Brian? wrote: »
    Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

    Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

    All the scientific evidence for evolution and climate change doesn't count for anything with these people, so I'd say no it doesn't.


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    #9830
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    About the Democrats?

    What's this nonsense now? I was replying directly to someone telling lies about the democrats.

    I am not a fan of lying in general, have you some point to make?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #9831
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Shock horror, some Americans want Trump to die.

    Surely this isn't a surprise to anyone if you've followed American media coverage of Trump.


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    #9832
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Brian? wrote: »
    Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

    Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

    No but it just takes one left leaning person to do it for people to jump up and down and label the lefties with it. Then feign some worry and your the better person.


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    #9833
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    salmocab wrote: »
    No but it just takes one left leaning person to do it for people to jump up and down and label the lefties with it. Then feign some worry and your the better person.

    What's wrong with wishing someone dead?


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    #9834
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    What's wrong with wishing someone dead?

    Not sure I said there was


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    #9835
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,665 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    extra gravy wrote:
    What Democrats have wished death on him? I'm sure you can provide quotes to corroborate your statement.
    It was posted in this thread before I posted.


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    #9836
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?
    Faugheen wrote: »
    No, they can’t


    I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...


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    #9837
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...

    They didn’t ‘censor’ tweets. They highlighted tweets which were fact-checked and found to have been false.

    More disingenuous bollocks from your fine self.


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    #9838
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...

    Where do you get your 'knowledge'? Have you links to back up your assertions?


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    #9839
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,167 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It was posted in this thread before I posted.

    Where?


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    #9840
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Where do you get your 'knowledge'? Have you links to back up your assertions?

    Faugheen wrote: »
    They didn’t ‘censor’ tweets. They highlighted tweets which were fact-checked and found to have been false.

    More disingenuous bollocks from your fine self.


    OK I stand corrected.


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    #9841
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,242 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It was posted in this thread before I posted.

    Weren't you saying Biden was in the early staged of dementia before?


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