2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

relax carry on · 03-10-2020 8:00am

He's a cockroach. Bit of bleach and a lightbulb and he'll be fine.

In all seriousness though. I wonder what mental gymnastics his supporters are stretching out for at the moment in order to square everything the leader has said and not done about Covid-19 with the fact that he seems to have caught the virus himself?

extra gravy · 03-10-2020 8:06am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

White House are saying the the move to hospital is "precautionary". Lets hope so, really worried about him

Are you American? If not, being "really worried" about a foreign leader in a different country that has no impact on you is just odd.

Kidchameleon · 03-10-2020 8:20am

This kind of hypocrisy makes me sad

I wonder what Zara Tweeted when Hillary had her health scare in 2016?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-positive-zara-rahim-tweet-death-obama-clinton-b747934.html

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

Whilst I don't agree with banning or subverting free speech, its interesting to note that Twitter have vowed to suspend any accounts wishing death upon President Trump. To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/02/twitter-trump-death-threats-covid-19-policy

Tweets wishing for Trump's death violate Twitter policy, company says

Platform says abusive tweets about the president, who was diagnosed with Covid-19 this week, could result in suspension

Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship
Infrastructure & Technology
Issued on: May 28, 2020

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 8:28am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

This kind of hypocrisy makes me sad I wonder what Zara Tweeted when Hillary had her health scare in 2016?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-positive-zara-rahim-tweet-death-obama-clinton-b747934.html

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

Whilst I don't agree with banning or subverting free speech, its interesting to note that Twitter have vowed to suspend any accounts wishing death upon President Trump. To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/02/twitter-trump-death-threats-covid-19-policy

Tweets wishing for Trump's death violate Twitter policy, company says

Platform says abusive tweets about the president, who was diagnosed with Covid-19 this week, could result in suspension

Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship
Infrastructure & Technology
Issued on: May 28, 2020

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

Yet four years ago we had trump doing this

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/782673397952094208?s=19

Kidchameleon · 03-10-2020 8:32am

Agreed, that is also terrible but he wasn't wishing death upon her.

timsey tiger · 03-10-2020 9:10am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

White House are saying the the move to hospital is "precautionary". Lets hope so, really worried about him

That's nice, it's a pity that the worry wouldn't be there if the positions were reversed.

Igotadose · 03-10-2020 9:11am

timsey tiger wrote: »

That's nice, it's a pity that the worry wouldn't be there if the positions were reversed.

Too bad WH staffers are continuing to meet with the media, and not wear masks. You really can't fix stupid.

Igotadose · 03-10-2020 9:15am

In campaign-related news, senior Campaign staffer, RNC speaker and ex-Mrs. Gavin Newsome, Kimberly Guilfoyle, left Fox under a cloud of sexual harrassment charges against her by a former Fox employee. Fox just settled that suit for between $4 and 5 million dollars.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-history-of-kimberly-guilfoyles-departure-from-fox

Brian? · 03-10-2020 9:32am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

This kind of hypocrisy makes me sad I wonder what Zara Tweeted when Hillary had her health scare in 2016?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-positive-zara-rahim-tweet-death-obama-clinton-b747934.html

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

Whilst I don't agree with banning or subverting free speech, its interesting to note that Twitter have vowed to suspend any accounts wishing death upon President Trump. To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/02/twitter-trump-death-threats-covid-19-policy

Tweets wishing for Trump's death violate Twitter policy, company says

Platform says abusive tweets about the president, who was diagnosed with Covid-19 this week, could result in suspension

Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship
Infrastructure & Technology
Issued on: May 28, 2020

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

Obama and Biden have both sent well wishes to Trump for his recovery. Why are you only seeing the negative?

TexasTornado · 03-10-2020 9:36am

Kidchameleon wrote: »

This kind of hypocrisy makes me sad I wonder what Zara Tweeted when Hillary had her health scare in 2016?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-positive-zara-rahim-tweet-death-obama-clinton-b747934.html

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

Whilst I don't agree with banning or subverting free speech, its interesting to note that Twitter have vowed to suspend any accounts wishing death upon President Trump. To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/02/twitter-trump-death-threats-covid-19-policy

Tweets wishing for Trump's death violate Twitter policy, company says

Platform says abusive tweets about the president, who was diagnosed with Covid-19 this week, could result in suspension

Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship
Infrastructure & Technology
Issued on: May 28, 2020

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

That really is sad. America is such a mess at present.

eagle eye · 03-10-2020 9:37am

It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.

Carfacemandog · 03-10-2020 9:49am

I wouldn't wish death on Trump, but frankly don't really care if he does die. If someone goes out playing in traffic every day for most of the year and encourages others to do likewise while ignoring and even mocking those trying to warn them of the dangers of playing in traffic, it is inevitable that some of them will get hit by cars.

Boris and his handshaking fiasco was no different, and while I wouldn't have wished death on him either there is a good chance that the public may have taken more heed of the dangers of Covid far earlier had he not been able to get through it.

So no wishes for death here, but I'll save my wishes for good health and making it through for the people trying to avoid the virus that his rhetoric has put at risk, and for the likes of the children he has removed from their parents and thrown in concentration camps rather than Trump himself.

Faugheen · 03-10-2020 9:56am

Carfacemandog wrote: »

I wouldn't wish death on Trump, but frankly don't really care if he does die. If someone goes out playing in traffic every day for most of the year and encourages others to do likewise while ignoring and even mocking those trying to warn them of the dangers of playing in traffic, it is inevitable that some of them will get hit by cars.

Boris and his handshaking fiasco was no different, and while I wouldn't have wished death on him either there is a good chance that the public may have taken more heed of the dangers of Covid far earlier had he not been able to get through it.

So no wishes for death here, but I'll save my wishes for good health and making it through for the people trying to avoid the virus that his rhetoric has put at risk, and for the likes of the children he has removed from their parents and thrown in concentration camps rather than Trump himself.

YOU EVIL BASTARD something something.

Really don’t understand what the crybaby anti-liberals have such an issue with people correctly pointing out that he didn’t take this seriously enough and now he’s paying the price.

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 10:32am

Am yet to see 'death wishes' on trump from anyone of note in the Democratic party, as for the rest who are labeled with being Democrats, it is what it is

dwayneshintzy · 03-10-2020 10:33am

To my knowledge, Twitter have historically let things slide if they were against Trump but they would come down hard on anti Democrat Tweets. Perhaps Trumps executive order a few months ago is making them fall in line finally?

Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?

hotmail.com · 03-10-2020 10:33am

Who gives a toss if he dies or not, makes no difference to us.

dwayneshintzy · 03-10-2020 10:34am

duploelabs wrote: »

Am yet to see 'death wishes' on trump from anyone of note in the Democratic party, as for the rest who are labeled with being Democrats, it is what it is

Ah, but Zara Rahim tweeted it! That Democratic superstar who we'd all been very familiar with before today.

The Democratic Party platform is basically the Zara Rahim platform, obviously.

Faugheen · 03-10-2020 10:40am

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?

No, they can’t

alchemist33 · 03-10-2020 10:40am

eagle eye wrote: »

It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.

The difference is people are quoting no-marks wishing Trump ill anď saying thus is representative of Democrats, while Biden, Harris, Obama and others have wished him well. When the Republicans get nasty, it comes right from the top.

extra gravy · 03-10-2020 10:45am

eagle eye wrote: »

It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.

What Democrats have wished death on him? I'm sure you can provide quotes to corroborate your statement.

Quin_Dub · 03-10-2020 10:50am

alchemist33 wrote: »

The difference is people are quoting no-marks wishing Trump ill anď saying thus is representative of Democrats, while Biden, Harris, Obama and others have wished him well. When the Republicans get nasty, it comes right from the top.

Rachel Maddow put it quite well I thought having wished Trump et al a speedy recovery she explained how it is possible to be critical of someones actions and still have sympathy with them succumbing to those actions

"If you know someone who smoked for years and years and years and never even tried to quit despite knowing the risks of lung cancer from smoking and then that person who you know got lung cancer, how do you react to that?" she asked. "Well, part of the way you react is that you understand why they likely got it. Your instinct might even be to blame them for getting it. Go right ahead. Enjoy that schadenfreude.

"But also, you're a human being in this situation," Maddow explained. "If your friend has lung cancer now, regardless of what you feel about how he or she got it, once you find out that they're ill, you wish and hope and try to save them, right? You get them into treatment. You help them try to survive it. You move heaven and earth to cure them. That's how we do as humans! That's how this works!"

FunLover18 · 03-10-2020 11:01am

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Rachel Maddow put it quite well I thought having wished Trump et al a speedy recovery she explained how it is possible to be critical of someones actions and still have sympathy with them succumbing to those actions

It's a poor analogy, Trump isn't just an average citizen who has caught the virus, he was leader of the country and has arguably been responsible for 200,000 deaths due to his mishandling of the virus and has shown little to no empathy. To compare him to a smoker who simply got long cancer through their own actions is an injustice to the smoker.

Quin_Dub · 03-10-2020 11:18am

FunLover18 wrote: »

It's a poor analogy, Trump isn't just an average citizen who has caught the virus, he was leader of the country and has arguably been responsible for 200,000 deaths due to his mishandling of the virus and has shown little to no empathy. To compare him to a smoker who simply got long cancer through their own actions is an injustice to the smoker.

Perhaps, it's an attempt to explain how we can both have sympathy at a human level but still be angry with the person for their actions.

Maybe the better comparison would be with a Tobacco exec getting lung cancer, but the underlying message remains the same I think.

Brian? · 03-10-2020 11:25am

eagle eye wrote: »

It's sad, and revolting, to see Democrats wishing death on anybody.
I despise Trump but you still have to stay above the line and maintain your dignity. Many democrats have shown an ugly side to them over the last four years.
They followed Trump into the pits and have lost their way.

Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

hotmail.com · 03-10-2020 11:27am

Brian? wrote: »

Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

Oh who cares, we all know Americans are extremely fake. None of them mean anything really. They are an individualistic society.

Brian? · 03-10-2020 11:29am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Oh who cares, we all know Americans are extremely fake. None of them mean anything really. They are an individualistic society.

I care that people are coming on here and telling lies.

hotmail.com · 03-10-2020 11:30am

Brian? wrote: »

I care that people are coming on here and telling lies.

About the Democrats?

timsey tiger · 03-10-2020 11:32am

Brian? wrote: »

Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

All the scientific evidence for evolution and climate change doesn't count for anything with these people, so I'd say no it doesn't.

Brian? · 03-10-2020 11:37am

hotmail.com wrote: »

About the Democrats?

What's this nonsense now? I was replying directly to someone telling lies about the democrats.

I am not a fan of lying in general, have you some point to make?

hotmail.com · 03-10-2020 11:39am

Shock horror, some Americans want Trump to die.

Surely this isn't a surprise to anyone if you've followed American media coverage of Trump.

salmocab · 03-10-2020 11:41am

Brian? wrote: »

Hold on a minute. "Democrats" aren't wishing death on Trump.

Some people in the Democratic party are. The entire leadership of the Democratic party have wished Trump well. Does that not count for anything??

No but it just takes one left leaning person to do it for people to jump up and down and label the lefties with it. Then feign some worry and your the better person.

hotmail.com · 03-10-2020 11:44am

salmocab wrote: »

No but it just takes one left leaning person to do it for people to jump up and down and label the lefties with it. Then feign some worry and your the better person.

What's wrong with wishing someone dead?

salmocab · 03-10-2020 11:46am

hotmail.com wrote: »

What's wrong with wishing someone dead?

Not sure I said there was

eagle eye · 03-10-2020 11:52am

extra gravy wrote:

What Democrats have wished death on him? I'm sure you can provide quotes to corroborate your statement.

It was posted in this thread before I posted.

Kidchameleon · 03-10-2020 12:06pm

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Kidchameleon, could you back this assertion up with some examples please?

Faugheen wrote: »

No, they can’t

I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...

Faugheen · 03-10-2020 12:12pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...

They didn’t ‘censor’ tweets. They highlighted tweets which were fact-checked and found to have been false.

More disingenuous bollocks from your fine self.

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 12:13pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I said "to my knowledge". Am I wrong? Has Donald Trump had Tweets censored? What about Joe Biden? Why has the likes of Parlor and Gab seen explosions of new members? It's not just Twitter...

Where do you get your 'knowledge'? Have you links to back up your assertions?

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 12:13pm

eagle eye wrote: »

It was posted in this thread before I posted.

Where?

Kidchameleon · 03-10-2020 12:15pm

duploelabs wrote: »

Where do you get your 'knowledge'? Have you links to back up your assertions?

Faugheen wrote: »

They didn’t ‘censor’ tweets. They highlighted tweets which were fact-checked and found to have been false.

More disingenuous bollocks from your fine self.

OK I stand corrected.

Cody montana · 03-10-2020 12:22pm

eagle eye wrote: »

It was posted in this thread before I posted.

Weren't you saying Biden was in the early staged of dementia before?

mcmoustache · 03-10-2020 12:24pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Who gives a toss if he dies or not, makes no difference to us.

You really need a new tune. Why not head over to the Rugby forum to tell them how uninterested you are in Rugby. Or is it just current affairs and politics that compels you so much to repeatedly announce your disinterest?

Scuid Mhór · 03-10-2020 12:24pm

I've been saying for a few months now that 2020 was no doubt going to have a spectacular season finale but I didn't expect the writers to come up with something this original.

eagle eye · 03-10-2020 12:24pm

duploelabs wrote:

Where?

It was no more than ten posts before I posted.

Faugheen · 03-10-2020 12:25pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

OK I stand corrected.

Do you honestly do no reading or research of your own?

How many times have you come into this thread with nonsense, had your nonsense torn to shreds and you’ve have to put your hands up and admit you were wrong?

Seriously, do some reading and some research of your own sometimes.

mcmoustache · 03-10-2020 12:25pm

Brian? wrote: »

What's this nonsense now? I was replying directly to someone telling lies about the democrats.

I am not a fan of lying in general, have you some point to make?

Only that he's not interested and that nobody else should be interested either.

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 1:22pm

eagle eye wrote: »

It was no more than ten posts before I posted.

Fire it up then, or are you going to blame the app again? You do realise if you use the Web browser you won't have these issues

eagle eye · 03-10-2020 1:53pm

duploelabs wrote:

Fire it up then, or are you going to blame the app again? You do realise if you use the Web browser you won't have these issues

You quoted my post, how did you miss the post about it? Actually I see you quoted it and went off on some ridic line about comparing it to Trump joking about Hilary's health.

Foxtrol · 03-10-2020 1:56pm

Faugheen wrote: »

YOU EVIL BASTARD something something.

Really don’t understand what the crybaby anti-liberals have such an issue with people correctly pointing out that he didn’t take this seriously enough and now he’s paying the price.

The hypocrisy is hilarious coming from a party that go around with these flags

https://twitter.com/NKingofDC/status/1312383754892181504?s=20

duploelabs · 03-10-2020 2:10pm

eagle eye wrote: »

You quoted my post, how did you miss the post about it? Actually I see you quoted it and went off on some ridic line about comparing it to Trump joking about Hilary's health.

So no one of standing in the Democratic party has wished death on trump? How do you know trump was joking about Hilary's health?

eagle eye · 03-10-2020 2:13pm

You seethe big thing I see going on here is people comparing Democrats behaviour with ugly Republican behaviour.
Well the Democrat party I followed for many years was a respectable party. There was none of this gutter politics.

They were always above it and tbh I always looked at democrat supporters, for the most part, as more enlightened, more intelligent people.
The Republican party has always been about the super rich and fooling the not so smart into voting for them with all the take pride in your armed forces and defend your home with a gun balderdash.
Now there's many Democrats swimming in the murky waters and acting like you'd expect idiot Republicans to.
There should be no childish stuff like, well look at what that Republican done, because you shouldn't have to defend yourself for being a horrible person if you are a Democrat because you should not be acting that way.
The likes of Nancy Pelosi encourages these types of people, she mightn't mean to but she is down in the gutter playing dirty. She's a despicable human being imo.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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