2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

MeMen2_MoRi_

Well well well, looky what we got here...

"Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel filed a slew of charges against Burkman, 54, and Wohl, 22, including conspiracy to commit an election law violation and using a computer to commit the crime of election law - intimidating voters. Prosecutors allege the two political operatives were using a robocall system aimed at scaring Detroit voters away from using mail-in voting ballots. The calls, which were made in August, went out to nearly 12,000 Detroit residents."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michigan-ag-files-felony-charges-again-jack-burkman-jacob-wohl-for-alleged-voter-suppression-scheme

salmocab

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Christ, I hope the Trumps will be okay. I really mean that. I was totally shocked at Boris getting hit and this is the same.

You were shocked that a man who boasted about shaking hands with people in a hospital with Covid patients caught Covid?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

salmocab wrote: »

You were shocked that a man who boasted about shaking hands with people in a hospital with Covid patients caught Covid?

Yes. He was in a very bad way. Boris was lucky to survive. That’s shocking to me. Shall I pretend otherwise? I don’t really go in for “serves you right” when it comes to illnesses that come close to killing a person. This isn’t a game.

weisses

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes. He was in a very bad way. Boris was lucky to survive. That’s shocking to me. Shall I pretend otherwise? I don’t really go in for “serves you right” when it comes to illnesses that come close to killing a person. This isn’t a game.

Boris acted like it was and he got a good dose of it, served him right

Trump acted like it is ... So here is hoping for another dose

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

weisses wrote: »

Boris acted like it was and he got a good dose of it, served him right

Trump acted like it is ... So here is hoping for another dose

Yeah and I have no interest in going low like they both did. Whatever happened to the high road? I know Trump goes low in every instance but other people have the choice to have the integrity that he lacks.

salmocab

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes. He was in a very bad way. Boris was lucky to survive. That’s shocking to me. Shall I pretend otherwise? I don’t really go in for “serves you right” when it comes to illnesses that come close to killing a person. This isn’t a game.

You said you were shocked at him getting hit though not how bad it was, I would say Boris did stupid things and got it through his own stupidity. There was nothing shocking or surprising about it, man sticks hand in fire and gets burnt.

dark crystal

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yeah and I have no interest in going low like they both did. Whatever happened to the high road? I know Trump goes low in every instance but other people have the choice to have the integrity that he lacks.

Over 200k Americans won't get that choice thanks to Trump's dangerous and idiotic stance on Covid and his continued refusal to listen to the experts.

It's poetic justice, pure and simple. That's if he even has it....and I have my doubts about that, tbh.

TheRepentent

On the plus side , this will stop President Turd from having rallies where the trumptards happily spread the virus.

Will he be examined by an independent doctor? Wouldn't put it past the muppet of trying to get out of the debates.

weisses

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yeah and I have no interest in going low like they both did. Whatever happened to the high road? I know Trump goes low in every instance but other people have the choice to have the integrity that he lacks.

I hope he doesn't die from it ...Thats as high I am willing to go.

Professor Moriarty

Bookies have Trump at 2/1 now having been evens last week. Great.

eagle eye

So I've been accused of not putting up anything as regards Tara Reade. I put this up yesterday but no response to it from what I can see.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114791050&postcount=9508

And then there's this.

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6?r=US&IR=T#sofie-karasek-a-progressive-organizer-was-photographed-holding-hands-and-touching-foreheads-with-biden-at-the-2016-academy-awards-karasek-said-she-felt-biden-violated-her-personal-space-in-that-interaction-4

So all you guys saying you knew nothing about this stuff, please let me hear your opinions on these women.

namloc1980

eagle eye wrote: »

So I've been accused of not putting up anything as regards Tara Reade. I put this up yesterday but no response to it from what I can see.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114791050&postcount=9508

And then there's this.

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6?r=US&IR=T#sofie-karasek-a-progressive-organizer-was-photographed-holding-hands-and-touching-foreheads-with-biden-at-the-2016-academy-awards-karasek-said-she-felt-biden-violated-her-personal-space-in-that-interaction-4

So all you guys saying you knew nothing about this stuff, please let me hear your opinions on these women.

These allegations should be prosecuted and if he's guilty he should face the consequences. What more do you want?

eagle eye

namloc1980 wrote:

These allegations should be prosecuted and if he's guilty he should face the consequences. What more do you want?

I wanted your opinion on Tara Reade's sexual assault claim.

eagle eye

namloc1980 wrote:

These allegations should be prosecuted and if he's guilty he should face the consequences. What more do you want?

I wanted your opinion on Tara Reade's sexual assault claim.

Cody montana

dark crystal wrote: »

Love this

https://twitter.com/TDucklo/status/1311863055362461696

Legend

weisses

eagle eye wrote: »

So I've been accused of not putting up anything as regards Tara Reade. I put this up yesterday but no response to it from what I can see.

Political commentator Jonathan Chait stated that at first he found Reade's claims believable, but that the findings reported by PBS, Laura McGann in Vox, and Natasha Korecki in Politico cast doubt on the veracity of the allegations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation#:~:text=In%20March%202020%2C%20Tara%20Reade,assistant%20in%20his%20Senate%20office.

eagle eye

weisses wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation#:~:text=In%20March%202020%2C%20Tara%20Reade,assistant%20in%20his%20Senate%20office.

I asked for opinions of members here not some wikepedia bull.

weisses

eagle eye wrote: »

I asked for opinions of members here not some wikepedia bull.

Its verifiable ...you know that right ?

Could you provide sources regarding Reid which provide material that validates an opinion then ?

westdublin

The flip flopping from some people is such a sight to behold, it wasn’t too long ago we were being told by some Rep senators and governors that states needed to open up even if they meant that some older people had to die.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick

I'm starting to fear for Trump's chances of winning the election (and for his health before the faux outrage starts).

A win for Biden is back to business for the global elites, more illegal immigration, open borders, and will not do anything to appease the far left hardcore activists who will keep increasing their demands to "abolish the police". I thought Trump winning 4 years ago would force a re-think of the current globalist model of capitalism. I think he needs another 4 years to make more changes.

Igotadose

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm starting to fear for Trump's chances of winning the election (and for his health before the faux outrage starts).

A win for Biden is back to business for the global elites, more illegal immigration, open borders, and will not do anything to appease the far left hardcore activists who will keep increasing their demands to "abolish the police". I thought Trump winning 4 years ago would force a re-think of the current globalist model of capitalism. I think he needs another 4 years to make more changes.

You mean, back to the days of lower crime rates, stronger economy and starting to make progress on a functional national health care system? Those bad old days?

As has been pointed out, so-called illegal immigrants pay more in income tax than the #IMPOTUS. You can look it up.

eldamo

eagle eye wrote: »

I wanted your opinion on Tara Reade's sexual assault claim.

The news cycle waits for no man.

eagle eye

Igotadose wrote: »

You mean, back to the days of lower crime rates, stronger economy and starting to make progress on a functional national health care system? Those bad old days?

As has been pointed out, so-called illegal immigrants pay more in income tax than the #IMPOTUS. You can look it up.

The post you quoted was delusional but this is delusional too.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

It's still under 50, do you not get that?

I said the other day that imo it was a draw but if you scored it like boxing where you have to call a winner of each round that I'd give it 10-9 to Biden. It's still close to a draw though. Did these polls have a draw option?

60 + 28 only add up to 88. Presume 12% is no opinion/draw.

eagle eye

weisses wrote: »

Its verifiable ...you know that right ?

Could you provide sources regarding Reid which provide material that validates an opinion then ?

I simply asked for an opinion of members here, do you not understand that?

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

60 + 28 only add up to 88. Presume 12% is no opinion/draw.

If there is no draw option then no.

Quin_Dub

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm starting to fear for Trump's chances of winning the election (and for his health before the faux outrage starts).

A win for Biden is back to business for the global elites, more illegal immigration, open borders, and will not do anything to appease the far left hardcore activists who will keep increasing their demands to "abolish the police". I thought Trump winning 4 years ago would force a re-think of the current globalist model of capitalism. I think he needs another 4 years to make more changes.

Change to what?

Trade in the "Globalist" model for the "Robber Baron" model?

Carfacemandog

eagle eye wrote: »

The post you quoted was delusional but this is delusional too.

What was delusional about it? Were crime rates not lower before Trump took office than they are today? Was the economy not stronger before Trump than today? Was Obama with Biden as VP not more interested in a national healthcare system than Trump has been? Or were you referring to their illegal immigrants comment? I can't speak for the average, but there definitely are plenty of illegal immigrants who pay more than $750yr (or $0 in some years if I recall) income tax.

eagle eye

Carfacemandog wrote: »

What was delusional about it? Were crime rates not lower before Trump took office than they are today? Was the economy not stronger before Trump than today? Was Obama with Biden as VP not more interested in a national healthcare system than Trump has been? Or were you referring to their illegal immigrants comment? I can't speak for the average, but there definitely are plenty of illegal immigrants who pay more than $750yr (or $0 in some years if I recall) income tax.

I note you keep using the word today. We are in the middle of a pandemic which is a disaster for the economy.

Can we look at how the economy was before the pandemic? That would be a fair reflection on how Trump did in that area I think.

Similarly can we look at crime figures before the pandemic do you have any facts on the economy and crime prior to the pandemic?
I hope you are aware that I despise Trump and want him gone, I just feel that we don't have to build up the Democrat party which has went downhill over the last four years.

They've let Trump drag them down to his level. I don't know if they'll ever recover but I hope they do.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

If there is no draw option then no.

What does the other 12% mean then?