Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

joeguevara

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

You do know people don't all work Monday to Friday?

I was actually interested rather than questioning the normal late bar normally on a Wednesday.

Actually Wednesday pints are my favourite but nowhere around here would have a late bar, actually no late bar any night,

MOH

joeguevara wrote: »

Late bar on a Wednesday? Is it a student town or city centre?

Normal closing time would be 23.30 on a Wednesday. If people are having house parties on a Wednesday, even after pints in the pub, then it shows that the other pubs not opening is probably the correct decision.

It's not 1996. There's plenty of bars that would normally be open later than 11.30 on a Wednesday, it's not that uncommon

joeguevara

MOH wrote: »

It's not 1996. There's plenty of bars that would normally be open later than 11.30 on a Wednesday, it's not that uncommon

I was asking where they were rather than not believing it. In 1996 though there were more late bars than there is now. It was also only in the naughtiest that Thursday night went from 00.30 close to 23.30.

ruwithme

Local publican arrived home this evening with a clear sheet of perspex for installation in the bar area. Just thinking, bless him anyway for trying. But i can't see them being allowed open round Christmas time. Can you imagine the scene?

Merry Xmas everybody, wonderful Christmas time e.t.c on the jukebox. Covid guidance out the window. Short term future for pubs looking bleak

dundalkfc10

joeguevara wrote: »

I was actually interested rather than questioning the normal late bar normally on a Wednesday.

Actually Wednesday pints are my favourite but nowhere around here would have a late bar, actually no late bar any night,

I could name loads pubs in Dundalk and Dublin where you would get pints till 2 or 3 any night of the week

joeguevara

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

I could name loads pubs in Dundalk and Dublin where you would get pints till 2 or 3 any night of the week

As do I. (Well not dundalk). I was more talking about legitimate late bars. Few and far between on a Wednesday.

Suckit

ruwithme wrote: »

Local publican arrived home this evening with a clear sheet of perspex for installation in the bar area. Just thinking, bless him anyway for trying. But i can't see them being allowed open round Christmas time. Can you imagine the scene?

Merry Xmas everybody, wonderful Christmas time e.t.c on the jukebox. Covid guidance out the window. Short term future for pubs looking bleak

That's likely going to happen in the pubs with food and the restaurants anyway.

I genuinely think having more pubs open with restrictions may be a better option than the current one.
All pubs closed would be the best solution and airport etc. Until it is deemed eradicated like New Zealand.
Leaving everything half open and leaving this ongoing is ridiculous imo.

Beasty

MOH wrote: »

I presume the mouth frothing publican also hacked the DAA website and put up fake stats? :rolleyes:

Apt username

Donald Trump wrote: »

And??? What is your point?


Do you think that because some people flew in from the UK and the US that that makes it safe for a publican down the country to pack everyone into his pub :pac:



Not too strong on the oul' logic there are ya? It's a separate issue.



I can't believe the country is so full of moanbags.

MOH wrote: »

You obviously haven't looked in the mirror much then.

Typical non-argument:
- Fact you don't like
- Claim it's made up
- Pointed out it's from a reliable source
- Change the topic.

Are you actually Donald? Because you make as much sense as him

Another two posters failing the "be civil" test

Seriously guys discuss the topic and not other users

PommieBast

lawrencesummers wrote: »

The biggest problem I have with this is not the pubs losing money, or people going out of business, it’s the lack of a published exit strategy by the government as to how we get to a stage that the pubs are open. They haven’t told us what needs to happen for that stage to be viable.

It is much the same shambles all over the government. After seeing what is going on regarding applications for Irish citizenship, with people not even being allowed their passports back because they decided to shut down the Naturalization office completely, the way pubs have been treated is hardly a shock.

PTH2009

joeguevara wrote: »

Late bar on a Wednesday? Is it a student town or city centre?

Normal closing time would be 23.30 on a Wednesday. If people are having house parties on a Wednesday, even after pints in the pub, then it shows that the other pubs not opening is probably the correct decision.

as a waterford man our city centre is a disgrace regarding night life and by no means do students frequent it. Were hoping when the wetherspoons opens it will create an atmosphere

joeguevara

PTH2009 wrote: »

as a waterford man our city centre is a disgrace regarding night life and by no means do students frequent it. Were hoping when the wetherspoons opens it will create an atmosphere

Bring back a Club LA. Wetherspoons won’t create an atmosphere. But it could be a start.

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

as a waterford man our city centre is a disgrace regarding night life and by no means do students frequent it. Were hoping when the wetherspoons opens it will create an atmosphere

wetherspoons for atmosphere.

I've heard it all

Irish Steve

Not read the entire thread, or even part of it, the few posts I have looked at are depressing in the extreme, the number of people that still just do not get what is happening worldwide is only frightening.

Aberdeen was shut down again today after over 30 cases were tracked as being associated with one pub. Does it really have to be spelled out any more clearly?

To address the specific theme of this thread, and this may not be a popular opinion, but at this stage, I don't care, I want to live to enjoy my retirement, not be in fear of some gob***** who thinks they know better than the professionals who have to deal with things like Covid every day.

If a pub didn't have a food licence before Covid struck they should be closed and remain closed until the relevant professionals deem it safe for them to reopen.

It was clear from the RTE broadcast earlier today that many "wet" pubs are already open and effectively ignoring the intention of the regulations, so for me, that's one of the reasons that the rest have been put on hold, there are already too many that are chosing to ignore the existing requirements, and I only hope that the ones that are being completely ignorant of the requirements are looked at very closely when their licences come up for renewal.

Bringing in a few take away meals, or reheating frozen pizza in a microwave, or just providing a meal receipt when no food has been served, and all the other tricks that are being used to flout the rules in place is only prolonging the problems for the whole country if things like the time limits and other requirements are not being observed.

If people can't survive without their booze, tough, there are a lot of people out here in the rest of the world that want to survive to live out their lives, not be killed by Covid because a few people had to have their 10 pints today.

If we have a choice between the "wet" pubs reopening, or the schools restarting, that is a no brain decision, the schools are fundamental the future of this country, the pubs are recreational and not essential, education of our future generations is essential.

A covid spike in Melbourne, which has now had to go into complete lock down again, was partly caused by a group of security guards at a quarantine centre sharing a cigarette lighter.

How many people are sanitising their hands after they visit the jacks in the pub? Most of the time, they don't even bother washing their hands, so whatever is on their hands is now also on the door handles.

Yes, it really is that simple to infect a couple of hundred people.

John O.Groats

Irish Steve wrote: »

Not read the entire thread, or even part of it, the few posts I have looked at are depressing in the extreme, the number of people that still just do not get what is happening worldwide is only frightening.

Aberdeen was shut down again today after over 30 cases were tracked as being associated with one pub. Does it really have to be spelled out any more clearly?

To address the specific theme of this thread, and this may not be a popular opinion, but at this stage, I don't care, I want to live to enjoy my retirement, not be in fear of some gob***** who thinks they know better than the professionals who have to deal with things like Covid every day.

If a pub didn't have a food licence before Covid struck they should be closed and remain closed until the relevant professionals deem it safe for them to reopen.

It was clear from the RTE broadcast earlier today that many "wet" pubs are already open and effectively ignoring the intention of the regulations, so for me, that's one of the reasons that the rest have been put on hold, there are already too many that are chosing to ignore the existing requirements, and I only hope that the ones that are being completely ignorant of the requirements are looked at very closely when their licences come up for renewal.

Bringing in a few take away meals, or reheating frozen pizza in a microwave, or just providing a meal receipt when no food has been served, and all the other tricks that are being used to flout the rules in place is only prolonging the problems for the whole country if things like the time limits and other requirements are not being observed.

If people can't survive without their booze, tough, there are a lot of people out here in the rest of the world that want to survive to live out their lives, not be killed by Covid because a few people had to have their 10 pints today.

If we have a choice between the "wet" pubs reopening, or the schools restarting, that is a no brain decision, the schools are fundamental the future of this country, the pubs are recreational and not essential, education of our future generations is essential.

A covid spike in Melbourne, which has now had to go into complete lock down again, was partly caused by a group of security guards at a quarantine centre sharing a cigarette lighter.

How many people are sanitising their hands after they visit the jacks in the pub? Most of the time, they don't even bother washing their hands, so whatever is on their hands is now also on the door handles.

Yes, it really is that simple to infect a couple of hundred people.

Absolutely spot on. Excellent post

Quantum Erasure

Can we start calling them 'pints pubs', please.

Or anything else really

ILoveYourVibes

fortwilliam wrote: »

Aaaaaaaah ballax!

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0715/1153499-politics-cabinet/

I get it, I really do, but why the focus on pubs?
I got a haircut today in the Grafton Barber where a nice barber cut my hair with no social distancing (Completely within guidance)
I just don't get the focus on the boozer...

Because people are forgetful when tipsy and behave differently. They are less easily controlled and have less self control and tend to forget.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Because people are forgetful when tipsy and behave differently. They are less easily controlled and have less self control and tend to forget.

Newsflash. Humans don’t like to be “controlled”.

PTH2009

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Newsflash. Humans don’t like to be “controlled”.

We start ole ole ole chants or whatever every chance we get and everyone plays along and has the craic

dundalkfc10

PTH2009 wrote: »

We start ole ole ole chants or whatever every chance we get and everyone plays along and has the craic

Dont know what pubs you be in, maybe ones full of teenegers and early 20s

perfectkama

enjoy ur retirement and the anti booze comments are fine for you even with no cv19 but many are fed up with sanctions of there freedoms open the damn pubs now

dundalkfc10

There is approx 7,000 pubs in Ireland.

If half are open (if even) and 105 have been in breach of regulations, that is nearly 3% of pubs that have been caught. Easily upto 20% of Pubs are not obeying by regulations.

What needs to be done
1. Open all with same guidelines.
OR
2. Restaurants currently open, should not be allowed sell alcohol

weldoninhio

Irish Steve wrote: »

Not read the entire thread, or even part of it, the few posts I have looked at are depressing in the extreme, the number of people that still just do not get what is happening worldwide is only frightening.

Aberdeen was shut down again today after over 30 cases were tracked as being associated with one pub. Does it really have to be spelled out any more clearly?

To address the specific theme of this thread, and this may not be a popular opinion, but at this stage, I don't care, I want to live to enjoy my retirement, not be in fear of some gob***** who thinks they know better than the professionals who have to deal with things like Covid every day.

If a pub didn't have a food licence before Covid struck they should be closed and remain closed until the relevant professionals deem it safe for them to reopen.

It was clear from the RTE broadcast earlier today that many "wet" pubs are already open and effectively ignoring the intention of the regulations, so for me, that's one of the reasons that the rest have been put on hold, there are already too many that are chosing to ignore the existing requirements, and I only hope that the ones that are being completely ignorant of the requirements are looked at very closely when their licences come up for renewal.

Bringing in a few take away meals, or reheating frozen pizza in a microwave, or just providing a meal receipt when no food has been served, and all the other tricks that are being used to flout the rules in place is only prolonging the problems for the whole country if things like the time limits and other requirements are not being observed.

If people can't survive without their booze, tough, there are a lot of people out here in the rest of the world that want to survive to live out their lives, not be killed by Covid because a few people had to have their 10 pints today.

If we have a choice between the "wet" pubs reopening, or the schools restarting, that is a no brain decision, the schools are fundamental the future of this country, the pubs are recreational and not essential, education of our future generations is essential.

A covid spike in Melbourne, which has now had to go into complete lock down again, was partly caused by a group of security guards at a quarantine centre sharing a cigarette lighter.

How many people are sanitising their hands after they visit the jacks in the pub? Most of the time, they don't even bother washing their hands, so whatever is on their hands is now also on the door handles.

Yes, it really is that simple to infect a couple of hundred people.

30 in Aberdeen. So what? How many have died? We’ve have hundreds in Ireland over the past week or two with how many deaths? I think out of the hundreds there has been 6 hospitalisations, none in ICU. So if hundreds of people are getting it with mild/no symptoms what’s the issue?

Shut down the grey and ill economy rather than the entire economy. There may be a few deaths of younger people but that happens in life whether it’s a car accident or a bad flu.

Let’s just get on with it.

Edit: just seen hospitalizations are back down to single digits.

Quantum Erasure

Yeah, but did you die?

weldoninhio

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Yeah, but did you die?

No one has died from the recent outbreaks afaik.

stephenjmcd

Basically the same guidelines as are in place now, 2m apart no pre booking and no time limit, 1m apart booking and limit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/no-time-limits-and-no-pre-booking-what-the-unpublished-pub-reopening-guidelines-reveal-1.4323118

freak scence

Irish Steve wrote: »

Not read the entire thread, or even part of it, the few posts I have looked at are depressing in the extreme, the number of people that still just do not get what is happening worldwide is only frightening.

Aberdeen was shut down again today after over 30 cases were tracked as being associated with one pub. Does it really have to be spelled out any more clearly?

To address the specific theme of this thread, and this may not be a popular opinion, but at this stage, I don't care, I want to live to enjoy my retirement, not be in fear of some gob***** who thinks they know better than the professionals who have to deal with things like Covid every day.

If a pub didn't have a food licence before Covid struck they should be closed and remain closed until the relevant professionals deem it safe for them to reopen.

It was clear from the RTE broadcast earlier today that many "wet" pubs are already open and effectively ignoring the intention of the regulations, so for me, that's one of the reasons that the rest have been put on hold, there are already too many that are chosing to ignore the existing requirements, and I only hope that the ones that are being completely ignorant of the requirements are looked at very closely when their licences come up for renewal.

Bringing in a few take away meals, or reheating frozen pizza in a microwave, or just providing a meal receipt when no food has been served, and all the other tricks that are being used to flout the rules in place is only prolonging the problems for the whole country if things like the time limits and other requirements are not being observed.

If people can't survive without their booze, tough, there are a lot of people out here in the rest of the world that want to survive to live out their lives, not be killed by Covid because a few people had to have their 10 pints today.

If we have a choice between the "wet" pubs reopening, or the schools restarting, that is a no brain decision, the schools are fundamental the future of this country, the pubs are recreational and not essential, education of our future generations is essential.

A covid spike in Melbourne, which has now had to go into complete lock down again, was partly caused by a group of security guards at a quarantine centre sharing a cigarette lighter.

How many people are sanitising their hands after they visit the jacks in the pub? Most of the time, they don't even bother washing their hands, so whatever is on their hands is now also on the door handles.

Yes, it really is that simple to infect a couple of hundred people.

exact same can be said for schools . no one can win with this virus

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/world/middleeast/coronavirus-israel-schools-reopen.html#click=https://t.co/QYQKN3Vmu8

afro man

PTH2009 wrote: »

We start ole ole ole chants or whatever every chance we get and everyone plays along and has the craic

You must still be living in the 90's

afro man

afro man wrote: »

You must still be living in the 90's

Been to many a gig in recent years were people are still doing it.

Irish Steve

Irish Steve wrote: »

Not read the entire thread, or even part of it, the few posts I have looked at are depressing in the extreme, the number of people that still just do not get what is happening worldwide is only frightening.

Aberdeen was shut down again today after over 30 cases were tracked as being associated with one pub. Does it really have to be spelled out any more clearly?

To address the specific theme of this thread, and this may not be a popular opinion, but at this stage, I don't care, I want to live to enjoy my retirement, not be in fear of some gob***** who thinks they know better than the professionals who have to deal with things like Covid every day.

If a pub didn't have a food licence before Covid struck they should be closed and remain closed until the relevant professionals deem it safe for them to reopen.

It was clear from the RTE broadcast earlier today that many "wet" pubs are already open and effectively ignoring the intention of the regulations, so for me, that's one of the reasons that the rest have been put on hold, there are already too many that are chosing to ignore the existing requirements, and I only hope that the ones that are being completely ignorant of the requirements are looked at very closely when their licences come up for renewal.

Bringing in a few take away meals, or reheating frozen pizza in a microwave, or just providing a meal receipt when no food has been served, and all the other tricks that are being used to flout the rules in place is only prolonging the problems for the whole country if things like the time limits and other requirements are not being observed.

If people can't survive without their booze, tough, there are a lot of people out here in the rest of the world that want to survive to live out their lives, not be killed by Covid because a few people had to have their 10 pints today.

If we have a choice between the "wet" pubs reopening, or the schools restarting, that is a no brain decision, the schools are fundamental the future of this country, the pubs are recreational and not essential, education of our future generations is essential.

A covid spike in Melbourne, which has now had to go into complete lock down again, was partly caused by a group of security guards at a quarantine centre sharing a cigarette lighter.

How many people are sanitising their hands after they visit the jacks in the pub? Most of the time, they don't even bother washing their hands, so whatever is on their hands is now also on the door handles.

Yes, it really is that simple to infect a couple of hundred people.

Bold 1: Yes and some people want to enjoy their lives too, which means rational reactions to the virus. Our response is currently pretty illogical. You see the irony in what you've said right? You don't want my actions to impact your life but are perfectly happy to dictate mine.

Bold 2: Pure conjecture, is it lengthening our problem? They aren't linking cases to these pubs. Currently, our problem is being lengthened by clusters in factories.

Bold 3: The government have presented this as the 'choice', one or the other, can't have both. They've shown nothing to support that claim.

The Melbourne thing is not accurate at all. Lots led to that spike, not just sharing of a lighter. The security guards were riding the people who were supposed to be isolating for God's sake.

BattleCorp

AdamD wrote: »

Bold 2: Pure conjecture, is it lengthening our problem? They aren't linking cases to these pubs. Currently, our problem is being lengthened by clusters in factories.

If clusters can happen in factories, I'd bet my big testicle that they are even more likely to happen in pubs.