Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

ancapailldorcha

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ExMachina1000

Possibility of another round of cheques being sent out to American citizens as part of the next stimulus package.

Up to 2000 dollars per individual. Total package could be around 3 trillion dollars. Previously 2 trillion dollars has been sent out to businesses and individuals.

EU yet to hand over 1 cent.

Cody montana

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Possibility of another round of cheques being sent out to American citizens as part of the next stimulus package.

Up to 2000 dollars per individual. Total package could be around 3 trillion dollars. Previously 2 trillion dollars has been sent out to businesses and individuals.

EU yet to hand over 1 cent.

Why would the Eu be handing over money?
Btw the us deficit increased by 3 trillion.

ExMachina1000

Cody montana wrote: »

Why would the Eu be handing over money?

Stimulus package.

Cant come to agreement as to whether there will be loans or a basic giveaway.

EU =European central bank

The deficit the deficit. Us deficit is irrelevant

duploelabs

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Possibility of another round of cheques being sent out to American citizens as part of the next stimulus package.

Up to 2000 dollars per individual. Total package could be around 3 trillion dollars. Previously 2 trillion dollars has been sent out to businesses and individuals.

EU yet to hand over 1 cent.

The EU aren't responsible for that. So far people in need of assistance in ireland, they have received personally around €5,500 since the beginning of the pandemic. Which is a bigger number than €2000 incase you haven't realised.

Cody montana

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Stimulus package.

Cant come to agreement as to whether there will be loans or a basic giveaway.

EU =European central bank

The deficit the deficit. Us deficit is irrelevant

Is it not up to individual countries to provide stimulus?
What do you mean the deficit is irrelevant?
3 trillion is an unbelievable number.

ExMachina1000

duploelabs wrote: »

The EU aren't responsible for that. So far people in need of assistance in ireland, they have received personally around €5,500 since the beginning of the pandemic. Which is a bigger number than €2000 incase you haven't realised.

This is in addition to unemployment payments. These are stimulus payments. Australia and Hongkong are among others who have made such payments previously.

Irish payments are taxable income supports.


EU cannot agree on a stimulus and have paid out nothing.

ExMachina1000

Cody montana wrote: »

Is it not up to individual countries to provide stimulus?
What do you mean the deficit is irrelevant?
3 trillion is an unbelievable number.

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

relax carry on

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The deficit the deficit. Us deficit is irrelevant

How is the US deficit irrelevant in a thread about Trump and the US? Trump is doing what Trump always does, take something he inherits and destroys it.

salmocab

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

This is the Trump thread surely the EU is the irrelevant bit?

ExMachina1000

relax carry on wrote: »

How is the US deficit irrelevant in a thread about Trump and the US? Trump is doing what Trump always does, take something he inherits and destroys it.

Us deficit to gdp is 105%
Japanese deficit to gdp is 253%
Greek deficit to gdp is 186%

Us bailouts aren't an exclusively Trump owned plan . Democrats proposed even larger numbers.
Economic stimulus is vital.
EU hasn't released any money. Countries cant agree. Not even 1 cent

Cody montana

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

Do you know what a question mark means?
Why is it irrelevant?
Why would the Eu give out stimulus packages?

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

It seems pretty reasonable that the EU is debating the logistics of such a plan. But overall the EU is technically in a more stable position than the US. Cases in the EU have stabilised meanwhile the US is in the throngs of wave one still.

It's also been pointed out that the stimulus packages in the US tend to just about tide the average person over. The supports for the average unemployed are incomparable to that of EU countries.

duploelabs

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Us deficit to gdp is 105%
Japanese deficit to gdp is 253%
Greek deficit to gdp is 186%

Us bailouts aren't an exclusively Trump owned plan . Democrats proposed even larger numbers.
Economic stimulus is vital.
EU hasn't released any money. Countries cant agree. Not even 1 cent

EU is governed completely differently to the US, to make equivalency is just utterly wrong

rossie1977

In 2009-10 the Tea party marched across America claiming government spending was too high and debt was out of control at $11 trillion.

Those same people voted for Trump in 2016 and not peep out of them while Trump vastly exceeds Obamas spending and national debt is more than doubled to almost $27 trillion.

Even of you think debt is irrelevant you cannot deny it shows that many Republicans and Trump supporters are hypocrites.

ExMachina1000

duploelabs wrote: »

EU is governed completely differently to the US, to make equivalency is just utterly wrong

Japan isn't in the Eu

Itssoeasy

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

How is it irrelevant ? Donald trump said when running for president that he’d eliminate the deficit which he wasn’t doing before COVID-19 he was in in fact increasing it bigly and the supposedly fiscally conservative GOP didn’t care. So no it’s not irrelevant at all.

ExMachina1000

Cody montana wrote: »

Why would the Eu give out stimulus packages?

To stimulate the EU wide economy. They cant agree on whether the figure will be in the form of loans or a handout.

This has been going on weeks with no agreement. MM is over there right now. It's all over the news.



Make a comment and 5 posters appear out of the woodwork asking the same questions but ignoring the answers given.

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Japan isn't in the Eu

So what does any of that have to do with the thread?

Itssoeasy

This may be a blessing but congressman John Lewis died on Friday and Donald trump has not said a thing about him. Now maybe his administration understand that it’s better for him to say nothing as every time there’s been a death of a member of Congress he makes it about him in some way and looks stupid.

ExMachina1000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So what does any of that have to do with the thread?

It's a comparative example.

Itssoeasy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This may be a blessing but congressman John Lewis died on Friday and Donald trump has not said a thing about him. Now maybe his administration understand that it’s better for him to say nothing as every time there’s been a death of a member of Congress he makes it about him in some way and looks stupid.

Sent condolences last night on twitter but it looked like somebody else wrote it.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It's a comparative example.

It's a pretty bad comparison, there's doesn't involve multiple countries debating the best approach based. Many of them having differing economic views. Also do you think the US or EU countries are in a more stable in relation to the actual virus?

TomOnBoard

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There is a meeting going on right now in Brussels. Previous negotiations have dragged on weeks . The EU is divided.

The Us deficit is irrelevant

This is a thread about the Trump Presidency.

In that context,

a) the US deficit is hugely relevant
b) EU and Ireland matters, not connected in any way shape or form to the US, are hugely irrelevant.

relax carry on

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

To stimulate the EU wide economy. They cant agree on whether the figure will be in the form of loans or a handout.

Iv said this already.

Is there any chance you can comment on Trumps promise to eliminate US national debt in 8 years but instead he has massively increased it? It's almost like one of his many failed business ventures.

ExMachina1000

TomOnBoard wrote: »

This is a thread about the Trump Presidency.

In that context,

a) the US deficit is hugely relevant
b) EU and Ireland matters, not connected in any way shape of form to the US, are hugely irrelevant.

I started off by posting about the latest stimulus package planned by President Trump. I made a comparison to the Eu handling and lack of stimulus package.

I was attacked from all sides.

Cody montana

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Japan isn't in the Eu

Really?
Thanks for the scoop.

Why would the Eu give stimulus packages to individuals?

ExMachina1000

relax carry on wrote: »

Is there any chance you can comment on Trumps promise to eliminate US national debt in 8 years but instead he has massively increased it? It's almost like one of his many failed business ventures.

Yes. There is a pandemic going on. Us in deep trouble. Money must be thrown at businesses to stop another recession. A recession that would likely spread globally.

As the phrase goes. When the Us sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold.

Is that what any of us want?

duploelabs

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I started off by posting about the latest stimulus package planned by President Trump. I made a comparison to the Eu handling and lack of stimulus package.

I was attacked from all sides.

You're contradicted because you made an absolute false equivalency. Saying the US, Japan, and EU are govenerned identically with the same responsibilities is just wrong

ExMachina1000

Cody montana wrote: »

Really?
Thanks for the scoop.

Why would the Eu give stimulus packages to individuals?

The EU give the money to nations who then distribute it to citizens and businesses.

Not a cent so far. Us has 2 trillion given out with at least another 3 to come.

There is a meeting going on in Brussels right now.

relax carry on

Itssoeasy wrote: »

This may be a blessing but congressman John Lewis died on Friday and Donald trump has not said a thing about him. Now maybe his administration understand that it’s better for him to say nothing as every time there’s been a death of a member of Congress he makes it about him in some way and looks stupid.

He did make a comment very late in the day, but in true Trump style couldn't even manage to get it right.

"Saddened to hear the news of civil rights hero John Lewis passing. Melania and I send our prayers to he and his family."