Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Timberrrrrrrr

1123heavy wrote: »

The press conference from Giuliani this evening was explosive to say the least. No doubt it will be brushed aside as nonsense by those who have difficulties reconciling themselves with the truth. The next 2 months are about to get very interesting.

What was "explosive" about it? Did Rudi show evidence of Voter fraud? Any evidence of the Democrats stealing the election? Any evidence of anything at all?

Because I watched it and all i seen was Rudi having a rant and making claims as his hair dye ran down the side of his face.

Thargor

1123heavy wrote: »

The press conference from Giuliani this evening was explosive to say the least. No doubt it will be brushed aside as nonsense by those who have difficulties reconciling themselves with the truth. The next 2 months are about to get very interesting.

There was brown crap running out of his hair, it was nauseating:

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ominous-black-goo-oozes-from-rudy-giulianis-head-during-press-conference/

Leroy42

1123heavy wrote: »

The press conference from Giuliani this evening was explosive to say the least. No doubt it will be brushed aside as nonsense by those who have difficulties reconciling themselves with the truth. The next 2 months are about to get very interesting.

You only hold a press conference about evidence when you either have failed or believe you will fail in court.

We are, according to Guiliani, supposed to believe that the Democrats have infiltrated across almost every level, including the media, across multiple states. That they managed to corrupt multiple public servants as well as non-political workers in order to undertake mass vote fraud, but at the same time lose states like Florida, lose seats in the House and unable to secure a majority in the Senate.

What.Now

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What was "explosive" about it? Did Rudi show evidence of Voter fraud? Any evidence of the Democrats stealing the election? Any evidence of anything at all?

Because I watched it and all i seen was Rudi having a rant and making claims as his hair dye ran down the side of his face.

They have the evidence, it's coming tomorrow.

Timberrrrrrrr

What.Now wrote: »

They have the evidence, it's coming tomorrow.

Soon, it's coming soon, we are gathering the evidence and will have it in two weeks, right after our health plan thats been coming for two weeks for the last four years :pac:

1123heavy

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

jaykay74

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

Sounds convincing. Next stop court or another press conference do you think?

Water John

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

So you're calling out Sec of State Rappensperger who is (R)?

Leroy42

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

It absolutely is, it is an open and shut case. Not sure why they continue to lose every case they bring to the courts, (and let us not forget that one of the main accomplishments of Trump was his massive loading of judges) or even why they felt the need to take time out of preparing their cases to hold a press conference to the uninformed.

But when a lawyer stands up, the day after having his case thrown out of court, on behalf of a known liar and a person that already said previously that unless they won they would never accept the result, then I for one am somewhat cynical.

You also didn't address the reality we are being asked to accept. That Sleepy Joe, holed up in his basement, surrounded by socialists and BLM/Antifa, managed to undertake the largest voting fraud ever seen. But with such an operation in place, once that has left behind so little evidence that it is proving almost impossible to crack despite at least one offer of $1m to speak out, they couldn't increase their house majority or secure a senate majority. Why do you reckon that was?

1123heavy

Leroy42 wrote: »

It absolutely is, it is an open and shut case. Not sure why they continue to lose every case they bring to the courts, (and let us not forget that one of the main accomplishments of Trump was his massive loading of judges) or even why they felt the need to take time out of preparing their cases to hold a press conference to the uninformed.

But when a lawyer stands up, the day after having his case thrown out of court, on behalf of a known liar and a person that already said previously that unless they won they would never accept the result, then I for one am somewhat cynical.

You also didn't address the reality we are being asked to accept. That Sleepy Joe, holed up in his basement, surrounded by socialists and BLM/Antifa, managed to undertake the largest voting fraud ever seen. But with such an operation in place, once that has left behind so little evidence that it is proving almost impossible to crack despite at least one offer of $1m to speak out, they couldn't increase their house majority or secure a senate majority. Why do you reckon that was?

Nobody believes this. From analysing the situation it looks as if the DNC have put Biden out there because they felt he would be easiest to control (what happened to Bernie? He was treated abysmally when he was clearly better than Joe)

Now we must ask ourselves why did they want Joe as leader? After 47 yrs the answer is obvious, he is most in line and he is best for them to achieve what they want to. He actually stands a very high chance of not making it past the next 4 yrs, at which point Kamala gets pushed up (who will be VP??).

So no it goes much further than what I have highlighted you saying, this is deep, very deep and goes to the highest levels of the DNC and beyond. The anarchists are mere tools in their game, pumped up by a false belief that they are fighting for freedom.

Thargor

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

Source for your figures please?

looksee

Well, having listened to the press conference on Covid, led by Pence (who said absolutely nothing useful), Deborah Birx who gave straightforward information, Dr Fauci who managed to get past the insults and give a convincing pep talk, then a couple of military guys who rather irrelevantly went on about PPE and vaccine distribution logistics and some dozy woman who waffled about giving students gift cards for wearing masks, you might almost get the impression the administration had everything under control, and the situation was serious but being managed.

Sadly they did not take questions so no-one was able to raise the fact that Trump had been fighting against all this from day one. He set up operation Warp Speed and that was about it. Everyone got sicker and sicker; his followers got more entrenched in not wearing masks and he did not only nothing about it, but pushed against it.

The lot of them would make anyone sick.

1123heavy

looksee wrote: »

Well, having listened to the press conference on Covid, led by Pence (who said absolutely nothing useful), Deborah Birx who gave straightforward information, Dr Fauci who managed to get past the insults and give a convincing pep talk, then a couple of military guys who rather irrelevantly went on about PPE and vaccine distribution logistics and some dozy woman who waffled about giving students gift cards for wearing masks, you might almost get the impression the administration had everything under control, and the situation was serious but being managed.

Sadly they did not take questions so no-one was able to raise the fact that Trump had been fighting against all this from day one. He set up operation Warp Speed and that was about it. Everyone got sicker and sicker; his followers got more entrenched in not wearing masks and he did not only nothing about it, but pushed against it.

The lot of them would make anyone sick.

I watched the exact same press conference right there, funny you leave out the long talk by the Dr appealing to everyone to reach out to their loved ones, listing out all the worries people may have that can affect their mental health and to call the number if they find themselves struggling.

Why not mention that was apart of the press conference? Or does it not fit into the narrative you wish to join in with? We can't say they did anything good?

It is precisely this type of one sidedness that people are sick of and is what is so rotten with this entire election

JackJaeger

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

This has already been debunked, even by conservative media...

Can't post link but search for "No, There Were Not 95,000 Biden-Only Ballots in Georgia" by Dan McLaughlin, 12 Nov on nationalreview.com

Leroy42

1123heavy wrote: »

Nobody believes this. From analysing the situation it looks as if the DNC have put Biden out there because they felt he would be easiest to control (what happened to Bernie? He was treated abysmally when he was clearly better than Joe)

Now we must ask ourselves why did they want Joe as leader? After 47 yrs the answer is obvious, he is most in line and he is best for them to achieve what they want to. He actually stands a very high chance of not making it past the next 4 yrs, at which point Kamala gets pushed up (who will be VP??).

So no it goes much further than what I have highlighted you saying, this is deep, very deep and goes to the highest levels of the DNC and beyond. The anarchists are mere tools in their game, pumped up by a false belief that they are fighting for freedom.

Ah ok. And this amazing plot, undoubtedly undertaken with the greatest of secrecy, has been uncovered by you how exactly?

They didn't just want Joe as a leader, he was voted for by the majority of Democrats , and then voted for by a large majority of the US as a whole.

So they want Kamala to be POTUS, so instead of giving her a majority in the Senate and increasing the majority in the house, they have left it open that people like Graham and McConnell get back in, the very people that have caused them so many problems?

If this is all true, then the GOP should be very scared. Despite having control of the Senate, the SCOTUS, POTUS, and the leading mainstream media station, despite having control of many state legislatures, they are facing a competitor that was able to outfox them in broad daylight and now seems to have the ability to literally steal an election.

But are seemingly unablen to run a country!

looksee

1123heavy wrote: »

I watched the exact same press conference right there, funny you leave out the long talk by the Dr appealing to everyone to reach out to their loved ones, listing out all the worries people may have that can affect their mental health and to call the number if they find themselves struggling.

Why not mention that was apart of the press conference? Or does it not fit into the narrative you wish to join in with? We can't say they did anything good?

It is precisely this type of one sidedness that people are sick of and is what is so rotten with this entire election

Yes I did, that was the woman waffling about giving students gift cards.

In fairness she was making relevant points, and I do not deny that there are other issues than the actual disease, but she was so lugubrious and depressed that it was difficult to keep up with what points she was making.

If the team had seen fit to put together some public service ads covering some of the stuff she was talking about, so it got to where it was needed, that would have been useful. Though I have no doubt Trump would have had to be front and centre, telling people how wonderful he is.

As it was almost all the presser was 'too little, too late' and only emphasised what they could have done if they had tried, and if his Ego-ness had stayed out of it.

Tell me how

looksee wrote: »

As it was almost all the presser was 'too little, too late' and only emphasised what they could have done if they had tried, and if his Ego-ness had stayed out of it.

Starting to look like some people are thinking more about how this will affect their reputations.

Midlife

Leroy42 wrote: »

Ah ok. And this amazing plot, undoubtedly undertaken with the greatest of secrecy, has been uncovered by you how exactly?

That's my favourite bit about this stuff. There's a dark global conspiracy going on funded by Jewish billions.

However, I know the truth because I read it on Facebook.

dwayneshintzy

1123heavy wrote: »

Typical trying to deviate from the realities by focusing on a non issue.

Those who watched it heard the names of witnesses and heard what their witness statements said. Bare in mind some of these witnesses are actually democrats but they felt compelled to stand up for the truth.

What about the lack of signatures on the ballots or those who voted twice (coincidentally almost all for Biden)?

Here's some stats:

In Georgia, of the ballots where the voter ONLY chose a president, 818 went to Trump and 95,801 went to Biden.

Meanwhile elsewhere 2,456,915 went to Trump and 2,376,081 went to Biden - the Georgia ratio is clearly out of line and nigh on impossible from a genuine statistics standpoint.

Are people that blinded? It's scary

So have you got a source for this then?

dwayneshintzy

Here's a source that argues it's complete nonsense, actually;

No, There Were Not 95,000 Biden-Only Ballots in Georgia

Midlife

Even Tucker Carlson is calling bullsh1t on this latest one.

Said he invited Sydney Powell on his show to explain the rigged voting machine thing and she declined. Asked her again and she said 'leave me alone'.

'I have uncovered evidence of a rigged voting machine plot linked to Democrats and Hugo Chavez. This swung the election away from Trump. The only reason it came to light is that Trump is so popular he broke the algorithm the machines use to cheat'

'wow that sounds really damning and specific, want to come on our national show and explain?'

'Not right now, thanks'

'Hi Sydney, us right wing media again. Will you come on our show and explain?'

'Leave me alone, stop harassing me'

Nody

Midlife wrote: »

Even Tucker Carlson is calling bullsh1t on this latest one.

Said he invited Sydney Powell on his show to explain the rigged voting machine thing and she declined. Asked her again and she said 'leave me alone'.

'I have uncovered evidence of a rigged voting machine plot linked to Democrats and Hugo Chavez. This swung the election away from Trump. The only reason it came to light is that Trump is so popular he broke the algorithm the machines use to cheat'

'wow that sounds really damning and specific, want to come on our national show and explain?'

'Not right now, thanks'

'Hi Sydney, us right wing media again. Will you come on our show and explain?'

'Leave me alone, stop harassing me'

Well it's a known fact that Fox News is actually a left wing media after all and Tucker is actually a Biden closet fan and was never a real Trumper. Simply look at how they called the election, clearly fake news because Trump is the best and actually won the election.

/sarcasm off.

The clip can be found at the start of this one as a reference; this is is someone telling the Trumpers this is BS but ufos are real and being hidden from you.

volchitsa

Midlife wrote: »

That's my favourite bit about this stuff. There's a dark global conspiracy going on funded by Jewish billions.

However, I know the truth because I read it on Facebook.

That's the very same Facebook that's run by Democrat sympathisers who are (allegedly) "blocking conservative voices" according to Republicans like Jim Sensenbrenner. Crazy doesn't begin to describe them.

aloyisious

1123heavy wrote: »

The press conference from Giuliani this evening was explosive to say the least. No doubt it will be brushed aside as nonsense by those who have difficulties reconciling themselves with the truth. The next 2 months are about to get very interesting.

With all the evidence that Rudy say's he has proving his [and his client's] case that there was massive voter fraud carried out in the election, how is it that Rudy and the team of lawyers he and the campaign have not been able to put that evidence to the trial judge/s hearing their cases in the various courts looking into the allegations?

Gbear

Midlife wrote: »

That's my favourite bit about this stuff. There's a dark global conspiracy going on funded by Jewish billions.

However, I know the truth because I read it on Facebook.

There's a similar thread running through QAnon.

They believe there's this super-secret cabal of cannibal paedophiles, which on some level they must acknowledge as being well outside of what would be deemed acceptable by society, and thus would make any ostentatious display of said cult to be extremely silly and dangerous.
They do not, as far as I know, believe that everyone is in it except them. It's not one of those kinds of cults. It's a specific anti-elitist (or anti-jew) one.

Yet they also believe that this same cult is obsessed with symbols and showing off that they're in the club. Spirals are a big one, for reasons I'm not familiar with. If a news anchor has spirals on her dress, "she must be in on it", kind of thing. There's also owls, because Moloch is an owl, or something like that.

A huge part of that is probably down to how "bad guys" have been imprinted on the psyche of humanity by film and TV. They imagine they're all Dr Evil, or Dick Dastardly types, who monologue about their evil plans, because they're so smug.

It's a bit like how sighting of UFOs and aliens became more flying saucer, little- green-man-focused when they began to be depicted that way in films.

bad2dabone

I've watched most of that press conference. It's one of the most insane and amateurish displays of garbage I've ever seen, lacking any evidence and filled with outlandish allegations.

Utterly bonkers.

Leroy42

bad2dabone wrote: »

I've watched most of that press conference. It's one of the most insane and amateurish displays of garbage I've ever seen, lacking any evidence and filled with outlandish allegations.

Utterly bonkers.

And this was Trump's tweet setting up the press conference.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1329408856733184008

This was going to be the final piece in the jigsaw, after which everyone would be able to see what had gone on!

BonnieSituation

I remember about a week ago I was worried about the subversion that was going on would lead to a horrible vista of trump staying in power.

But after this week, I'm actually just unmitigatedly bored of it all. I can't be the only one?

Not one of these hair-brained schemes have any chance of working. It's bizarre.

Though, in saying that, I'm almost certain that the last push for Trump will be "no, I'm not leaving". It will come to that.

Foxtrol

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I remember about a week ago I was worried about the subversion that was going on would lead to a horrible vista of trump staying in power.

But after this week, I'm actually just unmitigatedly bored of it all. I can't be the only one?

Not one of these hair-brained schemes have any chance of working. It's bizarre.

Though, in saying that, I'm almost certain that the last push for Trump will be "no, I'm not leaving". It will come to that.

I'm buying into the widely reported theory that he'll go to Mara Lago at some point and just not come back. He made so many trips there over the last few years and I don't see him sticking in the WH until election day, as the weather will turn soon and there will be no more golfing in VA. He'll also want none of it when it becomes clear he has no path to stay, when they run out of crap to throw at walls, and all the media focus and pressure will likely be on the huge numbers of COVID deaths.

froog

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I remember about a week ago I was worried about the subversion that was going on would lead to a horrible vista of trump staying in power.

But after this week, I'm actually just unmitigatedly bored of it all. I can't be the only one?

Not one of these hair-brained schemes have any chance of working. It's bizarre.

Though, in saying that, I'm almost certain that the last push for Trump will be "no, I'm not leaving". It will come to that.

i'll never get bored of rudy's press conferences to be honest. you can't write that stuff.