Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

schmoo2k

fritzelly wrote: »

LOL never thought of that and have one, will test it tomorrow - only had occasion to wear one once and found it very uncomfortable and a feeling of not getting enough oxygen

Really - mine you just click on your finger, its not even much of a pinch?

Jim_Hodge

schmoo2k wrote: »

Really - mine you just click on your finger, its not even much of a pinch?

I think they meant the mask.

Onesea

The testing increased then cases detected increased.
R number known to be unreliable as numbers are low used by head is state to instill wory.
Irish government admits numbers are massively overinflated, why was that?
The UK are doing similar, if you have ever had c19 in the UK and die from another ailment c19 will be the cause of death irrigardless.
Some labs in the US have been shown to be jigging the figures.
The kawasaki illness effecting children, more fear mongering.
Who waiting 3 months to declare a pandemic.
Countries waiting to control the "virus" before telling people to wear a mask.
Would love to know who instructs the media producers in virgin media Ireland.

Field east

Why is the media Now not reporting on the daily/weekly death notices in the US and the UK. It’s very telling that Trump has directed all death figures to be directed through a committee that is chaired by Pence - the VP. Surely there are nursing unions in these countries that are in a position to issue their own numbers and publish them.

PowerToWait

Onesea wrote: »

The testing increased then cases detected increased.
R number known to be unreliable as numbers are low used by head is state to instill wory.
Irish government admits numbers are massively overinflated, why was that?
The UK are doing similar, if you have ever had c19 in the UK and die from another ailment c19 will be the cause of death irrigardless.
Some labs in the US have been shown to be jigging the figures.
The kawasaki illness effecting children, more fear mongering.
Who waiting 3 months to declare a pandemic.
Countries waiting to control the "virus" before telling people to wear a mask.
Would love to know who instructs the media producers in virgin media Ireland.

I never get why so many Irish and Brits buy into this Russian sponsored American right wing conspiracy stuff.

PowerToWait

Field east wrote: »

Why is the media Now not reporting on the daily/weekly death notices in the US and the UK. It’s very telling that Trump has directed all death figures to be directed through a committee that is chaired by Pence - the VP. Surely there are nursing unions in these countries that are in a position to issue their own numbers and publish them.

See the post above yours. The whole thing is a hoax. Bill Gates, 5G, satanic worship, drain the swamp, Epstein, blah blah.

Onesea

Onesea wrote: »

The testing increased then cases detected increased.
R number known to be unreliable as numbers are low used by head is state to instill wory.
Irish government admits numbers are massively overinflated, why was that?
The UK are doing similar, if you have ever had c19 in the UK and die from another ailment c19 will be the cause of death irrigardless.
Some labs in the US have been shown to be jigging the figures.
The kawasaki illness effecting children, more fear mongering.
Who waiting 3 months to declare a pandemic.
Countries waiting to control the "virus" before telling people to wear a mask.
Would love to know who instructs the media producers in virgin media Ireland.

yosemitesam1

PowerToWait wrote: »

I never get why so many Irish and Brits buy into this Russian sponsored American right wing conspiracy stuff.

Where is the conspiracy in any of that post?

Tasfasdf

PowerToWait wrote: »

I never get why so many Irish and Brits buy into this Russian sponsored American right wing conspiracy stuff.

Russian sponsored American right wing stuff, Lol I think it's you that's got the conspiracy stuff in your head. That sounds so stupid to say out loud hahaha

is_that_so

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

GPs warn of surge in cases in Dublin presenting with Covid symptoms



Worrying, to say the least.

12 patients , TWELVE!

Widdensushi

Wolf359f wrote: »

I know right, in my circle of friends I don't know anyone to be killed in a car accident, to overdose, none are drug addicts, none have been convicted of a crime, none have HIV, none died of cancer, none drown, none even died of natural causes. It's all a fake, we're invincible.
Yeah that's sarcasm.

You must live a very sheltered life

is_that_so

ACitizenErased wrote: »

In the comments of yer mans tweet there’s a Cork GP saying she hasn’t referred many at all in the last few weeks.
Another is a Dublin woman who has been referred for hayfever.
Realistically anyone who calls the doctor and says they have sniffles is gonna be assumed covid-positive, and the doctor will report as such.

That doctor is something of a self-publicist and dare I say a Covigilante.

ninebeanrows

is_that_so wrote: »

12 patients , TWELVE!

12 patients going for tests and our test positivity rate is stable at 0.3%!
Doom merchants all around

is_that_so

Wolf359f wrote: »

I think all the caution coming from Government and the media is basically, we need to change our habits NOW and not wait and see in a week. Because in a weeks time it will be too late.
Back in March many criticized the Government for not acting quicker with lock down measures, now people feel they are acting too fast or being too negative.

It's more like taking aim at high risk groups or groups who would be more inclined to take risks. That for now is the "yoof". The current R0 is driving it too. If it falls back then it's more like the German blip but they are taking no chances. Floating a possible return to phase 2 is a nice move as well. No threats no fines, just shut it all back down.

is_that_so

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

12 patients going for tests and our test positivity rate is stable at 0.3%!
Doom merchants all around

It's no more than poster reports here on compliance, pure anecdote. TBF that doctor is a known quantity and very alarmist but the IT should no better than use him as an authority.

LiquidZeb

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

12 patients going for tests and our test positivity rate is stable at 0.3%!
Doom merchants all around

No guarantee that any of the 12 actually have covid as well. The cold and flu haven't gone extinct and hay fever season is still ongoing.

Widdensushi

is_that_so wrote: »

12 patients , TWELVE!

That has to be a gdpr breach, he can't have had many more patients Friday morning so it will be out there that anyone seen at his surgery has covid

Onesea

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What I said in my post was reported by media. Any conscious person could figure out this situation is not as serious as made out. Why is the question.

s1ippy

There are 2500 GPS in the country, the fact that one in the capital has 12 people with this issue is worrying, especially when you look at somewhere like France and the testing issues and delays they now have because it's spreading faster than they can contain it.

Boggles

Widdensushi wrote: »

That has to be a gdpr breach, he can't have had many more patients Friday morning so it will be out there that anyone seen at his surgery has covid

You don't get near a surgery if you are suspected of having Covid.

Bubbaclaus

Widdensushi wrote: »

That has to be a gdpr breach, he can't have had many more patients Friday morning so it will be out there that anyone seen at his surgery has covid

None of those patients would be anywhere near the surgery.

petes

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Some posters on this thread have inexplicably gained 'expert' status.

Bizarrely, one poster said they had assumed that a relentless poster was in fact a doctor in their 40s!

The extent of most of the 'data analysts' work on this thread is to subtract one figure published by the HPSC (today's) from another (yesterday's).

That's quite easy.

I don't believe that too many are 'expert's on this thread bar a couple of posters on the testing side who actually work in that field.

However, they still add to the thread. I don't really post on the thread but do read it.

You are far more outraged that someone had other tweets saying differently than the one you posted so you just posted the same one again.

On both sides of the fence be it positive or negative there will be rebuttals.

Someone posts positive news, someone will have the other side and vice versa.

One tweet from one doctor however does not mean that GP surgeries all over the country are inundated with people getting referred for tests.

On the other hand as per the replies to that tweet there seems to be an uptick in people being referred in certain areas.

Given that you'll get a test for any of the symptoms now that's not surprising.

I can't say I'm not concerned as it's in my anxious nature to be that way but I also look at the whole picture.

But some people are either so far on the negative/positive side it's pointless in engaging with them as they can't have a balanced discussion and I hazard to think how they get on in a work environment with such a blinkered view of the world.

is_that_so

s1ippy wrote: »

There are 2500 GPS in the country, the fact that one in the capital has 12 people with this issue is worrying, especially when you look at somewhere like France and the testing issues and delays they now have because it's spreading faster than they can contain it.

These twelve people have a symptom of some kind. It's now back to early March definitions. Remember people are being encouraged to get referred for even a hot flush now. It could be any number of things and 0.3% positivity in tests suggests it probably is something else.

Widdensushi

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

None of those patients would be anywhere near the surgery.

Fair enough, I still think that people will be afraid to enter shops etc in his area now, it is private information, I think it should be given out but it is against gdpr.

Boggles

Widdensushi wrote: »

Fair enough, I still think that people will be afraid to enter shops etc in his area now, it is private information, I think it should be given out but it is against gdpr.

What private information did he give out?

Bubbaclaus

Widdensushi wrote: »

Fair enough, I still think that people will be afraid to enter shops etc in his area now, it is private information, I think it should be given out but it is against gdpr.

What specific section of GDPR is it falling foul of? Or are you just talking out of your hole?

caveat emptor

Taking thing in perspective and comparing per million Australia much better than us. We are far more similar to Spain. You can see the resurgence in Australia in comparison to our initial cases etc.

Data from FT. They've very good charts etc. It's free to browse too. Saying quarantine and suspending tourism etc doesn't work is horse crap.

polesheep

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

What specific section of GDPR is it falling foul of? Or are you just talking out of your hole?

That doctor is giving precisely the kind of details that the authorities refuse to give for reasons of privacy when statisticians request them. Hence we have "The Dublin area".

Widdensushi

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

What specific section of GDPR is it falling foul of? Or are you just talking out of your hole?

No need to be nasty

Sammy2012

Eddie Wilson on the radio now talking about Ryanair and travel. The rest of Europe is back to normal apparently. We are being left behind.