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    #272
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Clearly on the far right with support for Gemma, Grand Torino and Irexit.

    if he supports them then yes i agree, hes a bit every way it seems.


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    #273
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    if he supports them then yes i agree, hes a bit every way it seems.

    He always slants to the right, it's not our fault if he thinks he's left wing.


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    #274
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,930 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    if he supports them then yes i agree, hes a bit every way it seems.

    Nope. Far Right. Along with Barrett the Fascist.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #275
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Nope. Far Right. Along with Barrett the Fascist.

    NOPE, i disagree that connors is far right.


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    #276
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,930 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    NOPE, i disagree that connors is far right.

    Its clear though. He has supported numerous far right personalities and parties. You cant deny this.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #277
    TheRepentent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    This conners chap , is he the bad Irish actor who's celibrated for not being a knacker ? His twitter can be entertaining if it is......


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    #278
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    NOPE, i disagree that connors is far right.

    If he's been doing podcasts with guys who supported burning down direct provision centers and agreed with his views. Then yes, he is far right.


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    #279
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    I agree he should be, but it also doesn't disregard the points he made in his speech today about the new minster.

    The point is ridiculous. Putting through a fairly simple and quick bit of legislation has no effect on the other longer term stuff mentioned.

    This is akin to the "have you no real criminals to be arresting" line. Lets focus 100% of garda resources on serial killers and ignore every other crime until every case is solved, then work downwards.


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    #280
    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    A rousing speech by Justin Barrett at the March for Innocence in Dublin yesterday. However the most inspiring take-away of the day was seeing many right-wing groups - National Party, Irish Freedom Party and ACI - come together for the common cause of rejecting pedophilia apologists in our government.

    It's encouraging to reflect that 5 years ago there wasn't really a voice for the right wing in Irish politics. Now we not only have several political parties to vote for, but there are also many media outlets willing to cover the stories that RTE and the mainstream refuse to, such as Roderic O'Gorman's shady connections. Media outlets such as Gript, the Burkean and the Liberal. The zeitgeist is moving in our direction lads. We can debate the reasons why but I personally believe the Left are their own worst enemy. When they embarrass themselves with amateur stunts like Eamonn Crudden tried (and failed) to do yesterday, they drive normal people away. Objecting to ordinary, decent people protesting against pedophilia is not a good look. Ar dheis, ar aghaidh.



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    #281
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,930 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Barrett once again showed his true fascist scumbag colours with that speech yesterday and the disgusting banner.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #282
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Denmark and Austria have far right governments.


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    #283
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Barrett once again showed his true fascist scumbag colours with that speech yesterday and the disgusting banner.

    What was on the banner?


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    #284
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Barrett once again showed his true fascist scumbag colours with that speech yesterday and the disgusting banner.

    What about that speech and banner specifically on their own merit are “true fascist scumbag” Im aware of who barrett is and I dont disagree he’s a fascist, but what specifically out of that speech and banner indicates such ?


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    #285
    Moghead
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Moghead


    coinop wrote: »
    A rousing speech by Justin Barrett at the March for Innocence in Dublin yesterday. However the most inspiring take-away of the day was seeing many right-wing groups - National Party, Irish Freedom Party and ACI - come together for the common cause of rejecting pedophilia apologists in our government.

    It's encouraging to reflect that 5 years ago there wasn't really a voice for the right wing in Irish politics. Now we not only have several political parties to vote for, but there are also many media outlets willing to cover the stories that RTE and the mainstream refuse to, such as Roderic O'Gorman's shady connections. Media outlets such as Gript, the Burkean and the Liberal. The zeitgeist is moving in our direction lads. We can debate the reasons why but I personally believe the Left are their own worst enemy. When they embarrass themselves with amateur stunts like Eamonn Crudden tried (and failed) to do yesterday, they drive normal people away. Objecting to ordinary, decent people protesting against pedophilia is not a good look. Ar dheis, ar aghaidh.


    LOL this guy.


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    #286
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭circadian


    Rousing isn't the adjective I'd use here.


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    #287
    dubrov
    Registered Users Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Moghead wrote:
    LOL this guy.

    The delusion is strong in this one


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    #288
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,119 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    What was on the banner?

    "Protect the innocent, punish the guilty."

    Seems pretty reasonable to me. Not sure why some posters are disgusted by it. Only people it applies to are pedophiles.


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    #289
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    "Protect the innocent, punish the guilty."

    Seems pretty reasonable to me. Not sure why some posters are disgusted by it. Only people it applies to are pedophiles.

    That's what I was wondering. I presumed that there must be another banner.

    You would wonder why some would have a problem with those words


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    #290
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,930 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    What was on the banner?

    Pictures of nooses

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #291
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Pictures of nooses

    And in itself or in the context of the words on the banner how are pictures of nooses fascist ?


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    #292
    McFly85
    Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭McFly85


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    That's what I was wondering. I presumed that there must be another banner.

    You would wonder why some would have a problem with those words

    It’s vague nonsense, the country already has laws to protect the innocent and punish the guilty.

    The noose suggests that they are pro capital punishment, the slogan suggests they don’t agree with the country’s laws about protection and punishment, and would prefer trial by media and kangaroo courts.


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    #293
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    About time we had an option to vote right. We desperately need that option as this country is headed to a very dark place indeed if the current crop of idiots are elected again and again.


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    #294
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    McFly85 wrote: »
    It’s vague nonsense, the country already has laws to protect the innocent and punish the guilty.

    The noose suggests that they are pro capital punishment, the slogan suggests they don’t agree with the country’s laws about protection and punishment, and would prefer trial by media and kangaroo courts.

    Capital punishment is compatible with a fair trial and a robust court system. If anything it becomes more essential if you have those punishments.


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    #295
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭circadian


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    And in itself or in the context of the words on the banner how are pictures of nooses fascist ?

    It's the suggestion of capital punishment, which doesn't alow for the opportunity to someone to later prove innocence.

    I'm sure you knew that and your question was designed purely to drag someone into an absolutely disingenuous argument of whataboutery, feigned ignorance and claims that "the left" are too easily offended or similar.


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    #296
    Acosta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Acosta


    A bunch of idiots, many of whom spend a lot of time whinging about their longing for the country to return to the good old days of catholic Ireland, hold a rally about protecting children from peodophiles. OK


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    #297
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭circadian


    Acosta wrote: »
    A bunch of idiots, many of whom spend a lot of time whinging about their longing for the country to return to the good old days of catholic Ireland, hold a rally about protecting children from peodophiles. OK

    The ironing is delicious.


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    #298
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    circadian wrote: »
    It's the suggestion of capital punishment, which doesn't alow for the opportunity to someone to later prove innocence.

    I'm sure you knew that and your question was designed purely to drag someone into an absolutely disingenuous argument of whataboutery, feigned ignorance and claims that "the left" are too easily offended or similar.

    Well no, the poster i replied to claimed that the banner and speech specifically showed barrets ‘scumbag fascist colours’ , i merely asked how, supporting capital punishment does not make somebody a fascist, it was a genuine question as I agree Barret is a fascist, but disagree that the banner or speech yesterday showed that off.


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    #299
    McFly85
    Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Capital punishment is compatible with a fair trial and a robust court system. If anything it becomes more essential if you have those punishments.

    Don’t want to derail the thread about capital punishment, and I think we’d disagree anyway:)

    But the noose suggests a very specific type of capital punishment. One done in public to satiate a mob, not one that punishes someone who has been found guilty by a court of law.


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    #300
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,119 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Who were the pro pedophiles group that showed up...it's an unusual stance to take.


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    #301
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    McFly85 wrote: »
    It’s vague nonsense, the country already has laws to protect the innocent and punish the guilty.

    The noose suggests that they are pro capital punishment, the slogan suggests they don’t agree with the country’s laws about protection and punishment, and would prefer trial by media and kangaroo courts.

    How out of touch from the wider population are they. There is no desire among the electorate to introduce capital punishment in Ireland. Even when it was allowed and was the mandatory punishment for crimes it was never used.

    It suits me fine while the NP keep up with this nonsense their support will never pass a few hundred.


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