Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

MickeyLeari

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Hearing the Government plan for school reopening in September is 1 day a week for primary and 2 days for secondary.

1 / 2 days sounds on the low side, but did anyone actually think that schools would be returning 5 days a week in September? There will inevitably be a blended approach between attending school and learning at home. The department has its work cut out in establishing how teachers (and parents) handle that

fleet_admiral

My local aldi was scrubbing the paint off the social distancing slabs outside earlier.

is_that_so

Micky 32 wrote: »

Spatial awarenes my ass, i went into an aisle to pick something up and within seconds someone was right behind me from around the corner and just stood there gormless looking. Then you had the aisle where there were a large group of people.

You seem to be looking for problems! Move away from them and avoid the busy aisle.

SusieBlue

If they won’t let children go back to normal school hours I hope the government have a plan to assist with paying for childcare for parents of older children.
You can’t put an 8 year old in a crèche but you can’t leave them home alone either, if you can’t WFH what are you supposed to do with the child?
Do they plan to allow these parents remain on social welfare, or will they be compensated for childcare costs? This is absolutely ridiculous.

manniot2

Deleted User wrote: »

1 / 2 days sounds on the low side, but did anyone actually think that schools would be returning 5 days a week in September? There will inevitably be a blended approach between attending school and learning at home. The department has its work cut out in establishing how teachers (and parents) handle that

Well they have managed it on the continent. And even in the UK on a phased basis already. Of course, we make an absolute meal out of everything in this country.

py

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Hearing the Government plan for school reopening in September is 1 day a week for primary and 2 days for secondary.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1271428219955224576

road_high

manniot2 wrote: »

Well they have managed it on the continent. And even in the UK on a phased basis already. Of course, we make an absolute meal out of everything in this country.

There is no common sense here it’s extinct. Eveything is a problem, no one offers solutions just **** the lot down is the default mode.
Schools must return fully in sept. Anything less is just utter nonsense

Allinall

manniot2 wrote: »

surely not? Who the **** is supposed to mind the kids.

Same people that mind them over the summer holidays.

Goldengirl

SusieBlue wrote: »

If they won’t let children go back to normal school hours I hope the government have a plan to assist with paying for childcare for parents of older children.
You can’t put an 8 year old in a crèche but you can’t leave them home alone either, if you can’t WFH what are you supposed to do with the child?
Do they plan to allow these parents remain on social welfare, or will they be compensated for childcare costs? This is absolutely ridiculous.

It may have to be back to the old" you mind my kids one day I'll mind yours the next " rota situation which is what we had to do when working and trying to get that age group minded. Hard to work fulltime without proper childminding though.

Benimar

road_high wrote: »

There is no common sense here it’s extinct. Eveything is a problem, no one offers solutions just **** the lot down is the default mode.
Schools must return fully in sept. Anything less is just utter nonsense

As no one offers solutions, maybe you can break the trend. How do you see schools opening fully in September?

I’m involved at 3rd level, where we have far more flexibility re: online delivery and we (should be!) dealing with adults in the physical class, and it’s not an easy exercise I can assure you.

TaurenDruid

pgj2015 wrote: »

I said county.

So you did. What county is it that's had nearly no cases in two months?

is_that_so

road_high wrote: »

There is no common sense here it’s extinct. Eveything is a problem, no one offers solutions just **** the lot down is the default mode.
Schools must return fully in sept. Anything less is just utter nonsense

That contingency plan assumes the 2m still being in place. In all likelihood it will be 1m or if we are incredibly lucky, gone.

manniot2

"blended learning from home" apart from the obvious question of who is supposed to do this teaching with parents trying to work, god help any kid with a disability diagnosed or otherwise.

Benimar

is_that_so wrote: »

That contingency plan assumes the 2m still being in place. In all likelihood it will be 1m or if we are incredibly lucky, gone.

At 1m (which I’d only agree with if it’s a health decision, not an economic one) primary schools would get 2.5 days a week. Secondary would range from 50-100% depending on the year they are in (I assume LC and JC get precedence).

I can’t see a scenario where SD is gone in only 11 weeks time unfortunately.

manniot2

manniot2 wrote: »

Well they have managed it on the continent. And even in the UK on a phased basis already. Of course, we make an absolute meal out of everything in this country.

The UK is planning for blended home learning and school attendance in September as far as I’m aware

Goldengirl

manniot2 wrote: »

"blended learning from home" apart from the obvious question of who is supposed to do this teaching with parents trying to work, god help any kid with a disability diagnosed or otherwise.

Yes, been a nightmare trying to get teenagers to even log on...they are not mature enough to do online classroom work without constant supervision or threats or bribes....I blame the parents ..lol.

I resent this being put forward as an option. Teachers are turning into lecturers , ffs.

road_high

Benimar wrote: »

As no one offers solutions, maybe you can break the trend. How do you see schools opening fully in September?

I’m involved at 3rd level, where we have far more flexibility re: online delivery and we (should be!) dealing with adults in the physical class, and it’s not an easy exercise I can assure you.

Open them up as before and also look at what other countries are doing. I doubt it’s rocket science, schools have been operate for hundreds of years. Children are so low risk- there was no reason why they couldn’t have opened up for June but for the usual dithering.
Anyone remember dithering Mavis from coronation street? “Oh I don’t know” was her catch phrase. If Mavis was a country she’d be Ireland for sure

iamwhoiam

Meantime the kids are all playing together in the playground and mixing on the greens .

Goldengirl

Benimar wrote: »

At 1m (which I’d only agree with if it’s a health decision, not an economic one) primary schools would get 2.5 days a week. Secondary would range from 50-100% depending on the year they are in (I assume LC and JC get precedence).

I can’t see a scenario where SD is gone in only 11 weeks time unfortunately.

Heard that 2 secondary schools planning 2.5 days a week, so half full classes with the work being taught and then the days at home the students do the work given ..it will slow down getting through the curriculum , but hopefully it's not for ever .

Benimar

road_high wrote: »

Open them up as before and also look at what other countries are doing. I doubt it’s rocket science, schools have been operate for hundreds of years. Children are so low risk- there was no reason why they couldn’t have opened up for June but for the usual dithering.
Anyone remember dithering Mavis from coronation street? “Oh I don’t know” was her catch phrase. If Mavis was a country she’d be Ireland for sure

And what about teaches, staff etc. Some of those could be in their 60s?

Just ‘take one for the team’ yeah?

And what happens when a kid gets seriously sick? It’s rare but it happens.

Basically you have no solution other than ignore health advice.

is_that_so

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Meantime the kids are all playing together in the playground and mixing on the greens .

Just close the curtains!

vid36

manniot2 wrote: »

Well they have managed it on the continent. And even in the UK on a phased basis already. Of course, we make an absolute meal out of everything in this country.

All so far are operating a blended model to varying degrees. I know of no country where classes are operating like they were in February.

iamwhoiam

is_that_so wrote: »

Just close the curtains!

Why ? Its not bothering me in the slightest , I enjoy hearing them laugh

Benimar

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Meantime the kids are all playing together in the playground and mixing on the greens .

Which they shouldn’t be doing. If a parent wants to leave their kids do that, fine. The Government is not in the same position of just being able to ignore its own health advice.

It seems pretty black and white to me. If we have social distancing in September schools will not back fully, and parents and teachers have to prepare for a mix of school and home learning.

If social distancing is 1m then there’ll be more time at school than if it is 2m. More pupils in the building at any one time. But as long as it exists schooling will not be normal, just like the office and the gym and the pub and every other gathering

Goldengirl

road_high wrote: »

Open them up as before and also look at what other countries are doing. I doubt it’s rocket science, schools have been operate for hundreds of years. Children are so low risk- there was no reason why they couldn’t have opened up for June but for the usual dithering.
Anyone remember dithering Mavis from coronation street? “Oh I don’t know” was her catch phrase. If Mavis was a country she’d be Ireland for sure

So you think other countries' schools " just opened up "? No thought , no planning? Yes , who cares ,fxxx it , just open up !

polesheep

Benimar wrote: »

And what about teaches, staff etc. Some of those could be in their 60s?

Just ‘take one for the team’ yeah?

And what happens when a kid gets seriously sick? It’s rare but it happens.

Basically you have no solution other than ignore health advice.

Was it ever about the children?:rolleyes:

little bess

Benimar wrote: »

Secondary would range from 50-100% depending on the year they are in (I assume LC and JC get precedence).

I can’t see a scenario where SD is gone in only 11 weeks time unfortunately.

I heard JC might not be run next year, that was a while ago. Any updates on that anywhere?

MickeyLeari

Cancel school for the year and put them all out to work.

The HorsesMouth

Deleted User wrote: »

1 / 2 days sounds on the low side, but did anyone actually think that schools would be returning 5 days a week in September? There will inevitably be a blended approach between attending school and learning at home. The department has its work cut out in establishing how teachers (and parents) handle that

Schools are going to go back full time in September..that is a fact. One or two days a week is not sustainable..social distancing is going to have to take a back seat on this one