Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

TheDoctor

Uk has overtaken Italy with the highest number of deaths in Europe and still seems to be climbing.

Concerning having that on our doorstep.

ZX7R

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/deborahblum/status/1257643557453811713?s=20

This paper has had absolutely no peer reviewing and that has been admitted by the co-aruthors .
They released it a newspaper first yesterday and has not been inforced by any scientific journals.
They seemly released to help people finding a vaccine.
It also goes against every other paper on mutation of covid-19

podgeandrodge

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

UK reports 698 new deaths and 4,406 new cases.

They are really struggling.

If people want to know what the biggest threat to Ireland getting out of this is, look no further!

Where are most UK cases coming from at the moment?

Drumpot

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/deborahblum/status/1257643557453811713?s=20

This would explain alot, particularly some countries being able to manage the spread. Be very interesting if European explosion was as much (or even mostly) down to the strain we got, as opposed to the measures implemented. If this goes back to Asian countries or to Australia and that region, be interesting to see if their lockdown measures will be as effective. This is part of the reason why holding up certain countries as bastions of greatness in dealing with the virus is not ideal, there are always more variables at play that need to be considered.

Harry Palmr

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

If only 81 cases are outside care settings, and those 81 include hospitals, then local transmission must be minimal now.

Depends where you look check this from Saturday - South (ie mainly Cork) private houses infection number is notable. Quite why is worth knowing as it might indicate something important.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXPucfRWkAAWEk0?format=jpg&name=small

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I would be happy with a crap sound system as long as Ireland does not get near the other COVID-19 KPIs in the UK

It's as if the two points were linked in your mind

What Username Guidelines

ACitizenErased wrote: »

91% of carehomes have been tested. 527 out of 581 nursing homes done.

My 95 year old grandmother, in a nursing home, is now 20 days since testing positive, now considered recovered. Didn’t see the inside of a hospital, just rode it out in her room

Tippex

setanta1984 wrote: »

These moron journalists are nearly as soul-destroying as the restrictions.

Tony's reaction to Zara Kings comment of the cocooners in phase 5 was hilarious.
He has the patience of a saint in fairness to him.

Out of interest is there anywhere we can rewatch these press conferences (I missed the weddings bit)

Miike

Lads Colm Henry wanted to jump the desk to your man there :pac::pac::pac::pac: the face on him

hmmm

ZX7R wrote: »

This paper has had absolutely no peer reviewing and that has been admitted by the co-aruthors .
They released it a newspaper first yesterday and has not been inforced by any scientific journals.
They seemly released to help people finding a vaccine.
It also goes against every other paper on mutation of covid-19

Similar papers come up every few weeks. Every time so far they have been dismissed as minor mutations from the people who seem to know what they are talking about. I can particularly recommend this Twitter account - https://twitter.com/trvrb

Stheno

Miike wrote: »

Lads Colm Henry wanted to jump the desk to your man there :pac::pac::pac::pac: the face on him

I think poor Colm has the 1. The male equivalent of a resting bitchface and 2. Low tolerance for what he considers nonsense

Miike

Stheno wrote: »

I think poor Colm has the 1. The male equivalent of a resting bitchface and 2. Low tolerance for what he considers nonsense

Do you blame him? He gave a perfectly reasonable, succinct answer and the reporter says "yeah mm so watch this space so" and his face turned into pure scorn :pac:

Bridge93

Tests per million people at nearly 43,000 if RTÉ numbers are correct. 18th highest in the world and 9th highest of countries with a population over 1m people

Drumpot

So Italy and Spain, two of the worst affected countries in Europe, opening up some things are used as a stick to beat our authorities who are being more cautious ? Sound logic there . .

Stheno

Miike wrote: »

Do you blame him? He gave a perfectly reasonable, succinct answer and the reporter says "yeah mm so watch this space so" and his face turned into pure scorn :pac:

Not at all. He reminds me of me, I'm unable to control my facial expression at times when people make idiotic points

It's why I refuse to use video on my work conference calls

amadangomor

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

My 95 year old grandmother, in a nursing home, is now 20 days since testing positive, now considered recovered. Didn’t see the inside of a hospital, just rode it out in her room

Legend

coastwatch

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Where are most UK cases coming from at the moment?

The North West according to reports over the weekend.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/03/north-west-overtakes-london-for-number-of-covid-19-hospital-cases-coronavirus

Seamai

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

UK reports 698 new deaths and 4,406 new cases.

They are really struggling.

If people want to know what the biggest threat to Ireland getting out of this is, look no further!

It is worrying, all the more so when we have a pretty soft border with part of it. I doubt that full plane between London and Belfast was a once off, personally I'd be taking the boat at the moment but if I boarded that plane and saw that many people I'd be asking to get off.


Why were all the UK news websites today putting the death figures at in excess of 32,000 but the figure given by Dominic Raab is 2,500 less? I notice that he just gave the new total, not the increase on yesterday, is this an attempt to soften or disguise a shocking figure?

Miike

Stheno wrote: »

Not at all. He reminds me of me, I'm unable to control my facial expression at times when people make idiotic points

It's why I refuse to use video on my work conference calls

Are you me? :pac:

threeball

TheDoctor wrote: »

Uk has overtaken Italy with the highest number of deaths in Europe and still seems to be climbing.

Concerning having that on our doorstep.

Just keep the doors shut to them and the US and we should be able to climb our way out of this. Having those two simpletons running their respective countries means their journey will run and run. My fear is we'll tip the cap and reinstate full travel with both, in which case we as well not have bothered locking down at all.

Shelle1234.

So just to clarify. I'm morbidly obese, diabetic and have hypertension...lucky me.i suffere severe depression and admit seriously to letting myself go, locking myself in the house and trying to eat away the sadness. About 8 months ago i started to get a hold on things. I've lost four stone and although on meds for life (pre existing conditions PCOS) for diabetes, and blood pressure they are controlled. But I still have a ways to go with the old weight.....am I right in thinking that if I get this I'm seriously fecked?? (41 year old female). Also as restrictions ease am I right or wrong to think I'm going to be keeping my kids home and off school until a vaccine is in place because of the risks. I'm all for things getting back to normal but like so many I want it done sensibly. I also feel there will be an element of trial and error and people will die,but I dont want to be trial or error. I have a 13 and 7 year old and dont think I will be letting them out to play or even back to school in Sept Sept something changes. Am I a horrible parent ??

Also ivr been reading this thread from the beginning and although I dont participate often I do appreciate the modicum of sense on this site.....even the odd side of doomsdayers and negative comments are sensible. I've recently looked through a group on fb called end the lockdown ireland and omg .....there are no words for the way some people think lol.

Many thanksxxxx

ZX7R

hmmm wrote: »

Similar papers come up every few weeks. Every time so far they have been dismissed as minor mutations from the people who seem to know what they are talking about. I can particularly recommend this Twitter account - https://twitter.com/trvrb

Thank you for the link.
Just to add the paper in question appears to have been writing by a group of undergraduates from the Los Alamos laboratory in new Mexico

threeball

Shelle1234. wrote: »

So just to clarify. I'm morbidly obese, diabetic and have hypertension...lucky me.i suffere severe depression and admit seriously to letting myself go, locking myself in the house and trying to eat away the sadness. About 8 months ago i started to get a hold on things. I've lost four stone and although on meds for life (pre existing conditions PCOS) for diabetes, and blood pressure they are controlled. But I still have a ways to go with the old weight.....am I right in thinking that if I get this I'm seriously fecked?? (41 year old female). Also as restrictions ease am I right or wrong to think I'm going to be keeping my kids home and off school until a vaccine is in place because of the risks. I'm all for things getting back to normal but like so many I want it done sensibly. I also feel there will be an element of trial and error and people will die,but I dont want to be trial or error. I have a 13 and 7 year old and dont think I will be letting them out to play or even back to school in Sept Sept something changes. Am I a horrible parent ??

Also ivr been reading this thread from the beginning and although I dont participate often I do appreciate the modicum of sense on this site.....even the odd side of doomsdayers and negative comments are sensible. I've recently looked through a group on fb called end the lockdown ireland and omg .....there are no words for the way some people think lol.

Many thanksxxxx

You're in the high risk category for sure but if you got your weight down it would remove a lot of your risk. You have 4 months before the kids go back to school. its the perfect opportunity to set a goal to gradually lose weight over the summer. Your kids being the motivation so they can go back to school. Its not healthy for them to be couped up for the next 12 months awaiting a vaccine that might never come. You either. Set a goal, the first step is the hardest. Sugar drives depression and exercise relieves it. Its up to you which to choose.

Miike

Shelle1234. wrote: »

So just to clarify. I'm morbidly obese, diabetic and have hypertension...lucky me.i suffere severe depression and admit seriously to letting myself go, locking myself in the house and trying to eat away the sadness. About 8 months ago i started to get a hold on things. I've lost four stone and although on meds for life (pre existing conditions PCOS) for diabetes, and blood pressure they are controlled. But I still have a ways to go with the old weight.....am I right in thinking that if I get this I'm seriously fecked?? (41 year old female). Also as restrictions ease am I right or wrong to think I'm going to be keeping my kids home and off school until a vaccine is in place because of the risks. I'm all for things getting back to normal but like so many I want it done sensibly. I also feel there will be an element of trial and error and people will die,but I dont want to be trial or error. I have a 13 and 7 year old and dont think I will be letting them out to play or even back to school in Sept Sept something changes. Am I a horrible parent ??

Also ivr been reading this thread from the beginning and although I dont participate often I do appreciate the modicum of sense on this site.....even the odd side of doomsdayers and negative comments are sensible. I've recently looked through a group on fb called end the lockdown ireland and omg .....there are no words for the way some people think lol.

Many thanksxxxx

Hi Shelle. I think you should definitely speak to your GP for the advice on how to move forward given your medical history. I don't think anyone should comment any further on that be honest with you, as it would be ill placed and ill informed. The GP is best placed to advise further

jam_mac_jam

Shelle1234. wrote: »

So just to clarify. I'm morbidly obese, diabetic and have hypertension...lucky me.i suffere severe depression and admit seriously to letting myself go, locking myself in the house and trying to eat away the sadness. About 8 months ago i started to get a hold on things. I've lost four stone and although on meds for life (pre existing conditions PCOS) for diabetes, and blood pressure they are controlled. But I still have a ways to go with the old weight.....am I right in thinking that if I get this I'm seriously fecked?? (41 year old female). Also as restrictions ease am I right or wrong to think I'm going to be keeping my kids home and off school until a vaccine is in place because of the risks. I'm all for things getting back to normal but like so many I want it done sensibly. I also feel there will be an element of trial and error and people will die,but I dont want to be trial or error. I have a 13 and 7 year old and dont think I will be letting them out to play or even back to school in Sept Sept something changes. Am I a horrible parent ??

Also ivr been reading this thread from the beginning and although I dont participate often I do appreciate the modicum of sense on this site.....even the odd side of doomsdayers and negative comments are sensible. I've recently looked through a group on fb called end the lockdown ireland and omg .....there are no words for the way some people think lol.

Many thanksxxxx

Well done on your weightloss. Four stone is brilliant.

The best thing to do is talk to your doctor in relation to the risk. No you are not a horrible parent. You are thinking of your health and they need you and that might be more important than school in the great scheme of things.

rob316

Shelle1234. wrote: »

So just to clarify. I'm morbidly obese, diabetic and have hypertension...lucky me.i suffere severe depression and admit seriously to letting myself go, locking myself in the house and trying to eat away the sadness. About 8 months ago i started to get a hold on things. I've lost four stone and although on meds for life (pre existing conditions PCOS) for diabetes, and blood pressure they are controlled. But I still have a ways to go with the old weight.....am I right in thinking that if I get this I'm seriously fecked?? (41 year old female). Also as restrictions ease am I right or wrong to think I'm going to be keeping my kids home and off school until a vaccine is in place because of the risks. I'm all for things getting back to normal but like so many I want it done sensibly. I also feel there will be an element of trial and error and people will die,but I dont want to be trial or error. I have a 13 and 7 year old and dont think I will be letting them out to play or even back to school in Sept Sept something changes. Am I a horrible parent ??

Also ivr been reading this thread from the beginning and although I dont participate often I do appreciate the modicum of sense on this site.....even the odd side of doomsdayers and negative comments are sensible. I've recently looked through a group on fb called end the lockdown ireland and omg .....there are no words for the way some people think lol.

Many thanksxxxx

I doubt you are seriously fecked but you would probably end up in hospital on oxygen. Old age and underlying illness is more of a factor

Shelle1234.

Dont know how to copy all replies to thank you all but thanks for replies. Much appreciated. Still working on getting healthy but honestly terrified about the risks. Appreciate that this may not have been the place to ask for advice but honestly I would just be taking it as opinions anyway and will be speaking to my gp later this week, where I will raise my concerns (phone appt, wont be going to surgery lol). Thanks so much again all x

threeball

Shelle1234. wrote: »

Dont know how to copy all replies to thank you all but thanks for replies. Much appreciated. Still working on getting healthy but honestly terrified about the risks. Appreciate that this may not have been the place to ask for advice but honestly I would just be taking it as opinions anyway and will be speaking to my gp later this week, where I will raise my concerns (phone appt, wont be going to surgery lol). Thanks so much again all x

Best of luck.

Beasty

A reminder to posters to avoid straying into anything that could be construed as medical advice

Thanks

podgeandrodge

Someone said to me earlier, so it must be true, that countries are broadly all coming to a peak at similar times regardless of the lockdown severity approach taken. And that social distancing alone, rather than the shutting down of all businesses, would perhaps have been sufficient had they concentrated on protecting nursing homes etc.

Thoughts?

speckle

I learn something new everyday. Probotic and micro bio bloom research on covid. Including one from UCC.
https://isappscience.org/how-some-probiotic-and-prebiotic-scientists-are-working-to-address-covid-19/