Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Beasty

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And now a maths lesson:
“Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
Mean = the sum of a series of numbers divided by the number of items in the series
Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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Beasty

Oh, no, not I
I will survive
Oh, as long as I know how to love I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
And I'll survive
I will survive, hey, hey....

Beasty

And now for those with a graph fetish:



From little acorns.......

Kermit.de.frog

I, for one, welcome the new doom thread

branie2

Thank you for this

Rob A. Bank

Cork Boy 53

Beasty wrote: »

And now for those with a graph fetish:



From little acorns.......

No flattening of the curve here then. The question is when will the peak come?

threeball

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

First honest thing hes said.

timsey tiger

Any update of the deaths in 24 hours, graph they pulled out yesterday?

owlbethere

Sometimes I wish I was both blind and deaf when I see and hear Trump.

spookwoman

Face like a well slapped arse

s1ippy

eagle eye

Trump is concerned about Cuomo because Biden has a sexual assault allegation to deal with. All his opponents for the nomination have pulled out so at this late stage if Biden has to withdraw there would be a huge push for Cuomo to be the nominee.

Lucy8080

eagle eye wrote: »

Trump is concerned about Cuomo because Biden has a sexual assault allegation to deal with. All his opponents for the nomination have pulled out so at this late stage if Biden has to withdraw there would be a huge push for Cuomo to be the nominee.

Trump now has Cuomo praising his response to the current crisis. It makes you wonder who is playing who.

Is Cuomo just planning on getting in to the race ? Maybe he is confident that,once he is in the race, he can also say that he acted in unity on a national crisis. Non-Partisan ,if you like.That would help neutralise his praise for the(Trump) national response. U.S.A. right or wrong.

Then a straight election shoot-out with Trump ,that Cuomo believes he can win?

signostic

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Trump now has Cuomo praising his response to the current crisis. It makes you wonder who is playing who.


Then a straight election shoot-out with Trump ,that Cuomo believes he can win?

How would that work? Would Biden have to withdraw and then Cuomo be selected?

kyote00

Trump called the leadership of the FBI 'scum' twice during this evenings rant....

Michael Dwyer

Trump will be 74 in June, Bill Clinton 74 in August!

Trump is older than Clinton, yet it's really hard to imagine Clinton being still fit for presidency. Coincidentally George W Bush is 74 in July. Birth between the two. 1946 a great year for producing US presidents.

If Obama was running against Trump he'd walk it. There seems to be a crazy dearth of political talent in the 330 million population US.

eagle eye

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Trump now has Cuomo praising his response to the current crisis. It makes you wonder who is playing who.

Is Cuomo just planning on getting in to the race ? Maybe he is confident that,once he is in the race, he can also say that he acted in unity on a national crisis. Non-Partisan ,if you like.That would help neutralise his praise for the(Trump) national response. U.S.A. right or wrong.

Then a straight election shoot-out with Trump ,that Cuomo believes he can win?

And it'd be a landslide victory for Cuomo. Trump can beat Biden but he won't beat Cuomo if that were to happen.

signostic wrote: »

How would that work? Would Biden have to withdraw and then Cuomo be selected?

Yes Biden would have to withdraw. There is trouble brewing with the #metoo brigade who are connected to the Democrats. The woman who made the sexual assault allegation was a staffer and is a Democrat.

Outlaw Pete

kyote00 wrote: »

Trump called the leadership of the FBI 'scum' twice during this evenings rant....

No, he said they "were" scum, past-tense. He was referring to the leadership of the FBI when he took over. He fired its director (James Comey) 3-4 months after his inauguration. Understandably, the guy was/is a scumbag.

bekker

eagle eye wrote: »

And it'd be a landslide victory for Cuomo. Trump can beat Biden but he won't beat Cuomo if that were to happen.


Yes Biden would have to withdraw. There is trouble brewing with the #metoo brigade who are connected to the Democrats. The woman who made the sexual assault allegation was a staffer and is a Democrat.

Don't personally like Biden or his past policy positions.

That he has a 'touchy feely' reputation is substantiated by a number of women but nothing overtly sexual was claimed.

This one appears to be a flake and has changed her story three or more times about the alleged incident which she claims occurred in 1993.

^But that won't stop the DNC if they want to parachute in Cuomo.^

Sober Crappy Chemis

Ireland have done well.

PROUD.

When we factor in everything and how bad things could have got.

Lucy8080

signostic wrote: »

How would that work? Would Biden have to withdraw and then Cuomo be selected?

I'm not sure how it works itself out.

There are accusations at the moment. What caught my ear last night was Trump and Cuomo "seemingly" being on the same page.

They are not bosom buddies. I just wonder if Trump has been set a trap that his ego could not refuse/see.

billybonkers

Interesting how Trump's office is astroturfing tens of thousands and winning him votes in the process. He is behind the protests and his office directly involved in setting up the websites and groups to promote them.

threeball

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Trump now has Cuomo praising his response to the current crisis. It makes you wonder who is playing who.

Is Cuomo just planning on getting in to the race ? Maybe he is confident that,once he is in the race, he can also say that he acted in unity on a national crisis. Non-Partisan ,if you like.That would help neutralise his praise for the(Trump) national response. U.S.A. right or wrong.

Then a straight election shoot-out with Trump ,that Cuomo believes he can win?

Cuomo has stated numerous times hes not going to run for president. Lies are trumps most easily demonstrated Achilles heel but it would be easily countered if Cuomo went back on his word.

zell12

Govt facilitating Covid19 shift from Dublin to rural areas

There has been an outbreak of the coronavirus at a Cahirciveen hotel used to house more than 100 asylum seekers.

It is understood that the 56 bedrooms are being shared by around 100 residents.
The Dept of Justice has said the decision to transfer residents of Dublin hotels to the Skellig Star last month was part of its emergency response to Covid-19.
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/cases-confirmed-at-hotel-for-asylum-seekers-39140418.html

Gynoid

Whoops wrong thread. I thought it was the one about coronavirus but I seem to be in one just about Drumpf.

completedit

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Ireland have done well.

PROUD.

When we factor in everything and how bad things could have got.

I think our rural suburban population helped us more than anything. Any densely populated areas doing a lot worse.

Quantum Erasure

Gynoid wrote: »

Whoops wrong thread. I thought it was the one about coronavirus but I seem to be in one just about Drumpf.

Fair point, Guy

kevcos

Boards and this thread are a good barometer of the current status of Covid-19

Each morning I go to the most thanked posts page.

In recent weeks the Covid-19 thread frequently made up to 26/26 of the most thanked post, by contrast today Covid-19 posts account of only 6/26.

Gynoid

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Fair point, Guy

I just checked and I still got boobs. Phew.

AllGunsBlazing

Michael Dwyer wrote: »

Trump will be 74 in June, Bill Clinton 74 in August!

Trump is older than Clinton, yet it's really hard to imagine Clinton being still fit for presidency. Coincidentally George W Bush is 74 in July. Birth between the two. 1946 a great year for producing US presidents.

If Obama was running against Trump he'd walk it. There seems to be a crazy dearth of political talent in the 330 million population US.

If he wins, Biden will be 78 by the time he assumes office.

Bandito909

Are building sites back open? I didn't hear anything, but the one at the back of where I live is in full swing!

DOCARCH

Bandito909 wrote: »

Are building sites back open? I didn't hear anything, but the one at the back of where I live is in full swing!

Depends on what they are building?

Quantum Erasure

kevcos wrote: »

Boards and this thread are a good barometer of the current status of Covid-19

Each morning I go to the most thanked posts page.

In recent weeks the Covid-19 thread frequently made up to 26/26 of the most thanked post, by contrast today Covid-19 posts account of only 6/26.

So we've passed the peak?

Bandito909

DOCARCH wrote: »

Depends on what they are building?

Apartments

DOCARCH

Bandito909 wrote: »

Apartments

They are not supposed to be back working unless they got some sort of exemption or it is deemed essential construction.

pc7

Bandito909 wrote: »

Apartments

No, they shouldn’t be opened then, ring the guards.

speckle

Aren't the private hospitals meant to be operating under the national public scheme at moment. I would have thought centralizing all covid patients to one area/hospital a good idea for infection control. So why is their one covid patient in the bons private in cork at the moment when their are free icu beds in Cork university hospital? Anyone any ideas?

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/
see data from April 18 pdf.

kevcos

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

So we've passed the peak?

Could infer that the peak of interest in peoples minds has peaked.

is_that_so

Don't know if this has been posted but a perspective from Taiwan, a picture of of preparedness, experience with SARS, rapid and early reaction and ... some luck.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-taiwan-has-confounded-predictions-in-fending-off-the-worst-of-covid-19-1.4229660

Akrasia

threeball wrote: »

Cuomo has stated numerous times hes not going to run for president. Lies are trumps most easily demonstrated Achilles heel but it would be easily countered if Cuomo went back on his word.

Every politician says they won’t challenge the party leadership, until they do

is_that_so

kevcos wrote: »

Could infer that the peak of interest in peoples minds has peaked.

We've probably got used to this arrangement but that doesn't mean we're not itching to get out from under it. We still need to be lectured every day about the dangers of being out but the idea of passing a peak without a dreaded surge is a comfort given where we might have been in the alarming days of early March.

Unearthly

kevcos wrote: »

Could infer that the peak of interest in peoples minds has peaked.

It definitely has for me. Find it too depressing now to read about all day. So I generally just check in for morning and night to see latest updates

is_that_so

Unearthly wrote: »

It definitely has for me. Find it too depressing now to read about all day. So I generally just check in for morning and night to see latest updates

That's a healthy attitude. I know of a number of people who not only "sneak out" but also get their dose of news at least 3 times a day. I'd imagine that is the norm.

DOCARCH

Singapore seems to be 'taking off' with +1,426 new cases today.

is_that_so

DOCARCH wrote: »

Singapore seems to be 'taking off' with +1,426 new cases today.

Largely migrant workers I believe, who they have packed into apartments and dormitories like sardines.

kingbhome

Is diy stores , builders merchants open for home delivery this week. Someone mentioned it to me last night but don't know if true or not.

zerosugarbuzz

On morning Ireland just now doctor Jack Lambert said that some GP’s are testing privately, not part of the official figures. He said that there are clusters in inner city Dublin and among the Roma and homeless communities! I certainly haven’t seen this reported anywhere, makes me seriously doubt the figures we’re being given. Looks like these people are not being isolated when diagnosed and are not included in the figures published.

is_that_so

kingbhome wrote: »

Is diy stores , builders merchants open for home delivery this week. Someone mentioned it to me last night but don't know if true or not.

One right beside me has been doing "emergency" since last week and I see a lot more cars outside this morning. Here's an official comment.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/hardware-stores-can-be-accessed-only-for-emergencies-says-minister-1.4232565

stephenjmcd

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

On morning Ireland just now doctor Jack Lambert said that some GP’s are testing privately, not part of the official figures. He said that there are clusters in inner city Dublin and among the Roma and homeless communities! I certainly haven’t seen this reported anywhere, makes me seriously doubt the figures we’re being given. Looks like these people are not being isolated when diagnosed and are not included in the figures published.

Not sure how a GP could test privately to be honest. They dont have the equipment to take the swab or the labs to send them to unless they go through the HSE.

Snow Garden

Gynoid wrote: »

I just checked and I still got boobs. Phew.

Link please.