CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Hector Savage

Anytime I start to feel positive about the trend it just ****ing reverses again .... f*ck this sh!t ...

wakka12

froog wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129265-covid-clusters-ireland/

"The number of clusters of coronavirus in nursing homes has more than doubled since the weekend.

Figures released today show there are now 86 nursing home outbreaks, while on Saturday the figure was 40."

what the actual ****??

I wonder if the predicted figure of 400 deaths will still remain despite occurrences like this, 400 would seem extremely optimistic with 86 nursing home clusters

hotmail.com

Off licences particularly busy yesterday. I suspect a lot of drinking going on in the back garden with different households mixing.

BanditLuke

froog wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129265-covid-clusters-ireland/

"The number of clusters of coronavirus in nursing homes has more than doubled since the weekend.

Figures released today show there are now 86 nursing home outbreaks, while on Saturday the figure was 40."

what the actual ****??

Ground zero.

lobbylad

is_that_so wrote: »

Worldometer seem to have different numbers for Spain. El Pais and Guardian have it at 757

I think Worldometer is the numbers since midnight, whereas the guardian and el pais is the last 24 hours, so yesterday afternoons updates are included in guardian/el pais numbers.

wakka12

https://nhi.ie/
There are only 460 nursing homes in Ireland so it is crazy thar COVID got into 86 of them (though maybe this figure doesnt include private nursing homes?)

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wakka12 wrote: »

https://nhi.ie/
There are only 460 nursing homes in Ireland so it is crazy thar COVID got into 86 of them (though maybe this figure doesnt include private nursing homes?)

It seems to me that the government reacted too late on nursing homes.

CIARAN_BOYLE

is_that_so wrote: »

Worldometer seem to have different numbers for Spain. El Pais and Guardian have it at 757

Quiet a few of the media sources struggle with Spain. Or rather the combined media struggle to be consistent with Spain.

They can't handle to multiple daily updates.

Some compare the 1st update yesterday with the 1st update today. Others compare the last update yesterday with the last today. Others compare the first update yesterday with the last update today then tomorrow compare the first update with the last update.

Personally if I post anything on Spain I would source what I'm post and what I'm comparing it to.

circadian

old_aussie wrote: »

To STOP CONFUSION,

This thread should be renamed the Donald TRUMP thread!

FFS I thought it was about Covid-19

Hitting a nerve?

old_aussie

New Home wrote: »

You know what they say, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" - that's applicable to Trump, too.

Unfortunately, we're all part of the problem, and we're all part of the solution right now

wakka12

Iran has recorded it's highest daily total of new cases at nearly 5000 today

Ace2007

Hector Savage wrote: »

Anytime I start to feel positive about the trend it just ****ing reverses again .... f*ck this sh!t ...

if you want to feel positive - then just don't read news/get off boards and avoid covid19 talk.

All this talk about "peaking" and "trends" is total crap - it's like someone looking at the investment returns and thinking, yea they are peaking etc, you only ever know about a peak once it's happened and you analysis data. Yet here we are and you have the media talking about the peak coming this week or next, and the trend is this or that.

It's like the media/people are afraid of lifting the restrictions late.

We could be in the exact same position as now in 3 weeks time, we could be in a lot worse, or slightly better - but if we assume the worse, take active measures - continue the "lockdown" - then we are giving ourselves the best chance.

Sober Crappy Chemis

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Some compare the 1st update yesterday with the 1st update today. Others compare the last update yesterday with the last today. Others compare the first update yesterday with the last update today then tomorrow compare the first update with the last update.

Sounds like a scene from Naked Gun or something.....

Ace2007

wakka12 wrote: »

I wonder if the predicted figure of 400 deaths will still remain despite occurrences like this, 400 would seem extremely optimistic with 86 nursing home clusters

Correct me if i'm wrong but that predicted figure wasn't arrived at my Irish experts - indeed Tony knocked that on it's head yesterday.

BanditLuke

Hector Savage wrote: »

Spain cases on the rise again .... just don't understand it .. .

Very disheartening.

hotmail.com

old_aussie wrote: »

To STOP CONFUSION,

This thread should be renamed the Donald TRUMP thread!

FFS I thought it was about Covid-19

I really think some Irish people and many Irish journalist just generally have a weird obsession with US presidents.

is_that_so

hotmail.com wrote: »

I really think some Irish people and many Irish journalist just generally have a weird obsession with US presidents.

Mostly we ignore them, but some just will not be ignored!

old_aussie

circadian wrote: »

Hitting a nerve?

NO,

I thought we'd be talking about how Covid-19 was affecting your country, and many other countries, and how Covid-19 was affecting our lives, and how to combat it's tendency to kill random people.

Stay safe,.

PS I like to use a lot of "and's"

hotmail.com

old_aussie wrote: »

NO,

I thought we'd be talking about how Covid-19 was affecting your country, and how Covid-19 was affecting our lives, and how to combat it's tendency to kill random people.

Stay safe,.

The ones that get obsessed about Trump think they are American.

Ace2007

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems to me that the government reacted too late on nursing homes.

i don't think it's really fair to say that - given the nature of the homes, it was inevitable that it was going to happen,

Staff come and go - there is no way around that - there are agency staff that work in multiple homes - if no home will give them full time contracts - what do you want them to do?

There are multiple people going in and out of homes on a regular basis - delivers, tradesmen, nurses, doctors, funeral directors to name a few

The HSE directive is that if a resident gets the virus, they stay in the nursing home and cared for there - which opens up a lot of issues - how to avoid staff getting sick, how to get extra staff etc.

It's easy to sit on the side line and blame the government but in reality there is very little they could really do.

Pitch n Putt

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems to me that the government reacted too late on nursing homes.

Correct you are. We’ve been a little too late on a few things.

Just needed to be a little braver to make the tough decisions and less worried about upsetting people.

Probably two weeks behind in decision making and that delay meant an extra three weeks shutdown now for all.

More proactive instead of reactive and we’d have nailed it here in Ireland.

Class MayDresser

circadian wrote: »

Hitting a nerve?

Yes, we have truckloads of nerve gas. We can take out all of China overnight, it'll be spectacular.

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Ace2007 wrote: »

i don't think it's really fair to say that - given the nature of the homes, it was inevitable that it was going to happen,

Staff come and go - there is no way around that - there are agency staff that work in multiple homes - if no home will give them full time contracts - what do you want them to do?

There are multiple people going in and out of homes on a regular basis - delivers, tradesmen, nurses, doctors, funeral directors to name a few

The HSE directive is that if a resident gets the virus, they stay in the nursing home and cared for there - which opens up a lot of issues - how to avoid staff getting sick, how to get extra staff etc.

It's easy to sit on the side line and blame the government but in reality there is very little they could really do.

The actions they are taking now could have taken place earlier is my point. Clearly nursing homes was the most vulnerable place to be during this crisis.

is_that_so

Ace2007 wrote: »

i don't think it's really fair to say that - given the nature of the homes, it was inevitable that it was going to happen,

Staff come and go - there is no way around that - there are agency staff that work in multiple homes - if no home will give them full time contracts - what do you want them to do?

There are multiple people going in and out of homes on a regular basis - delivers, tradesmen, nurses, doctors, funeral directors to name a few

The HSE directive is that if a resident gets the virus, they stay in the nursing home and cared for there - which opens up a lot of issues - how to avoid staff getting sick, how to get extra staff etc.

It's easy to sit on the side line and blame the government but in reality there is very little they could really do.

There's also an assumption that all nursing homes are equal in how they apply standards and directives. Some do, very well, others not so much.

Ace2007

hotmail.com wrote: »

The actions they are taking now could have taken place earlier is my point. Clearly nursing homes was the most vulnerable place to be during this crisis.

And what restrictions would stop/prevent it spreading in nursing homes?

old_aussie

Ace2007 wrote: »

Correct me if i'm wrong but that predicted figure wasn't arrived at my Irish experts - indeed Tony knocked that on it's head yesterday.

I got knocked on my head in a motorcycle accident 50 years ago.

It ain't affected my some, none some what maybe at all

Cheers lad

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Ace2007 wrote: »

And what restrictions would stop/prevent it spreading in nursing homes?

All staff wearing the proper equipment and for staff to be housed in hotels until the crisis ends. The staff should also get a 50% increase in pay.

Away With The Fairies

froog wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129265-covid-clusters-ireland/

"The number of clusters of coronavirus in nursing homes has more than doubled since the weekend.

Figures released today show there are now 86 nursing home outbreaks, while on Saturday the figure was 40."

what the actual ****??

What the actual fcuk indeed?

Are workers asymptomatic and going in to work and passing it on?

Worztron

I just came across this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JIBQO4wMkSmX/

I take it that the guy is a loon or conman. It's very confusing.

Your thoughts, guys?

JP Liz V1

Wasn't there talk of a few health care workers returning from abroad going straight back into work and then testing positive, could some have been in contact with nursing homes considering visiting restrictions came in place early March