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Whatever happened to the housing crisis ?

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  • 30-03-2020 12:13pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭


    You had Dick Boyd Barrett out calling for all building sites to be closed last week. What ever happened to the housing shortage emergency? Not a word about it since early February.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Have all the flood waters subsided along the Shannon?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Long_Wave wrote: »
    You had Dick Boyd Barrett out calling for all building sites to be closed last week. What ever happened to the housing shortage emergency? Not a word about it since early February.
    Probably should ask your parents to explain it to ye if you're not able to understand the situation at the moment.

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Long_Wave wrote: »
    You had Dick Boyd Barrett out calling for all building sites to be closed last week. What ever happened to the housing shortage emergency? Not a word about it since early February.

    Dont want to out their head above the fence incase everyone realises theyre totally useless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    The reality for the 10,000 "homeless" is that many moved back with family and to their previous lodgings after they realised that this pandemic might halt their notions of a free home for life.
    The genuine homeless out there remain homeless, and these are the vulnerable in society that we do need to protect.

    It's a shame that Fine Gael got caught out by the homeless debacle during the election. All of the left leaning parties were focusing on it, so there was no need for Fine Gael and Fianna Fail to promise the sun, the moon, and the stars to 10,000 people. The vast majority of working/contributing society saw this an unfair to those who abide by the rules and pay their way through life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Air Bnbs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There's been this big thing called the Coronavirus. Ask your friends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Remember sneery right-wing I'm alright Jack scumbaggery? Remember when that was a thing?

    Oh wait, it still is a thing.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It's still a pain in the ass. Be greatful it ain't you that's hurting on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Remember sneery right-wing I'm alright Jack scumbaggery? Remember when that was a thing?

    Oh wait, it still is a thing.


    It is interesting though how various "crises" subside to nothing when a genuine crisis arises. It's like how there's always enough news to fill the airwaves. In quiet times all sort of niche issues get blown up into a " national crisis" by the various vested interests involved.



    I mean 2 years ago the Tory Island ferry contract being lost by the incumbent was somehow national news, complete with a protest at the Dáil, until we buckled and paid for two ferries for them instead of one to keep them happy.

    I believe we had a Housing crisis myself but you can't deny a huge amount of chancers and queue jumpers like Margaret Cash exploited and distorted the genuine issue for their own benefit.


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    Long_Wave wrote: »
    You had Dick Boyd Barrett out calling for all building sites to be closed last week. What ever happened to the housing shortage emergency? Not a word about it since early February.

    There’s plenty of beds now that tourism has collapsed.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/6973bc-daily-briefing-on-the-governments-response-to-covid-19-monday-30-mar/#update-on-homeless-services-in-light-of-new-restrictions

    “ Update on Homeless Services in light of new restrictions
    For the duration of the current crisis staff working in homeless NGOs providing emergency accommodation to homeless households are deemed essential personnel. Staff involved in the provision of private emergency accommodation (Hotels and B&Bs) are also categorised as providing essential services to our most vulnerable.

    The local authorities are working closely with the Health Service Executive and NGO service operators to maintain services and to keep the movement of individuals in emergency accommodation to a minimum.

    Over 560 beds have been introduced in the Dublin region and significant space has been secured in Cork and Galway, all to ensure we can meet any isolation needs that may arise and to comply with social distancing requirements. The Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government said that he and his department continue to work with the Health Service Executive in order to cater for the needs of those in emergency accommodation. They will continue to closely monitor the situation as it evolves and offer support as needed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭Long_Wave


    Arghus wrote: »
    There's been this big thing called the Coronavirus. Ask your friends.

    If anything the Coronavirus should have made the housing crisis a hell of a lot worse because of children living in B&Bs being off school etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    There was no housing crisis.
    The need for a house for free beside mummy was eradicated when Jacinta realised she could live with mummy


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    If this thing goes badly wrong the homeless issue will be solved very quickly


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    In a time of a global health emergency, there is really only one thing to do...

    Have a cut at the homeless & working-poor badly effected by a dysfunctional spiv housing market and say everything is fake.

    Ireland is full of scumbags true, but it's not the ones that several posters here think they are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It's still there. I'm working in the homeless sector and as busy as always. Homeless people are just trying to ride this out without getting sick, same as the rest of us.


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    eviltwin wrote: »
    It's still there. I'm working in the homeless sector and as busy as always. Homeless people are just trying to ride this out without getting sick, same as the rest of us.

    At least you’ve now got a supply of homes for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    At least you’ve now got a supply of homes for them.

    Have I?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    ELM327 wrote: »
    There was no housing crisis.
    The need for a house for free beside mummy was eradicated when Jacinta realised she could live with mummy

    You obviously have not tried renting in Dublin in the last number of years


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You obviously have not tried renting in Dublin in the last number of years


    Someone will be along shortly to call you an entitled sponger and will explain the laws of supply and demand as if their Junior Cert business textbook gave them the intellectual powers of a Nobel Prize for Economics winner.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Have I?

    According to newspaper reports hundreds of units have been made available. Or was that fake news?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    what a bloody fantastic deal those luxury apartments on a twenty five year lease are looking , even more so now :rolleyes:

    you have to hand it to the irish government, they really now how to screw the taxpayer, they give away nama stuff and when it comes to companies getting money, they cant be wasteful enough!

    If the **** hits the fan again, there should be a reverse nama for opportunities in prime locations, be it land, partially completed developments etc...


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    According to newspaper reports hundreds of units have been made available. Or was that fake news?

    I've no idea. I imagine now is not the time to be attending or facilitating house viewings do you?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I've no idea. I imagine now is not the time to be attending or facilitating house viewings do you?

    Are you having a pop at me? I’m simply applauding the fact that hundreds more units have become available.

    “In this regard in the last two weeks, we have sourced 160 self-contained apartments, 165 ensuite bedrooms in hotels and 300 adult single occupancy accommodation.

    "We have identified a number of older and high-risk individuals currently residing in emergency accommodation and are currently in the process of moving these people to a separate cocooning facility where rapid rehousing is not possible."”

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/attempts-to-address-covid-19-fallout-among-homeless-990569.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Unfortunately, there is the conflation with the genuine people in need of homes and the Erica Fleming and Margaret Cash types. They are all piled in together in the discussion (deliberately by some) and apparently you are a Nazi if you point that out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Remember sneery right-wing I'm alright Jack scumbaggery? Remember when that was a thing?

    Oh wait, it still is a thing.

    We're all in this together, y'know, the 'this' that affects them.
    Health and housing crises are not their concern, but they'll make money on it no bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Imagine we never had social housing in Ireland.
    A few would have owned all houses. Like the way its turning.
    All the ones whinging about 'foreva' or 'free' houses would likely be tenants themselves. Think about all those who own homes that use to be social housing or grew up in former social housing, would that be the vast majority of Irish people?
    So now some don't need it they begrudge others.
    Empathy and decency lacking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭jimmyrustle


    Long_Wave wrote: »
    You had Dick Boyd Barrett out calling for all building sites to be closed last week. What ever happened to the housing shortage emergency? Not a word about it since early February.

    RBB et al were more concerned with trying to put a dent in developers pockets.

    You know what is a much higher risk of spreading COVID19 than a well managed building site?

    Prostitutes.

    Or sex workers as the left would call them.

    Hundreds currently operating on Escort Ireland.

    Would the hard left dare try and shut down an industry worked primarily by women, gay men and trans types?

    They would in me bollix. They're too high on the victim scale.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    RBB et al were more concerned with trying to put a dent in developers pockets.

    You know what is a much higher risk of spreading COVID19 than a well managed building site?

    Prostitutes.

    Or sex workers as the left would call them.

    Hundreds currently operating on Escort Ireland.

    Would the hard left dare try and shut down an industry worked primarily by women, gay men and trans types?

    They would in me bollix. They're too high on the victim scale.

    You should look further than the shop window. A few discussions going on in their forums, about punters being uncomfortable with women still working throughout this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    RBB et al were more concerned with trying to put a dent in developers pockets.

    You know what is a much higher risk of spreading COVID19 than a well managed building site?

    Prostitutes.

    Or sex workers as the left would call them.

    Hundreds currently operating on Escort Ireland.

    Would the hard left dare try and shut down an industry worked primarily by women, gay men and trans types?

    They would in me bollix. They're too high on the victim scale.

    sure theres articles on GCN calling for prostitutes to get payments from the government, from the 'sex workers association of Ireland comes this disgusting quote : "marginalised communities such as sex workers are being hit hardest" not nurses, doctors, gardai, delivery staff etc... its the prostitutes are the real victims here...

    let me take out the worlds smallest violin....


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    sure theres articles on GCN calling for prostitutes to get payments from the government, from the 'sex workers association of Ireland comes this disgusting quote : "marginalised communities such as sex workers are being hit hardest" not nurses, doctors, gardai, delivery staff etc... its the prostitutes are the real victims here...

    let me take out the worlds smallest violin....


    It's a bit odd to see them paint sex workers as victims, considering they generally challenge Ruhama on that position.


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