Restriction questions - the Megathread

Bullocks

whiskeyman wrote: »

Going to be one thing telling my fit 70 year old Dad to stay away from the shop.

Not going for a walk or cycle will be impossible.

Same here, he won't stay in at all or stay away from my two young lads. We live pretty much next door and are farming so it's hard to keep them distant.

babynice

Probably a stupid question but I am wondering if these restrictions extend to going for a short drive without getting out of your car? I would often go for a drive around the city just to get out of the house. I would rarely be 10/15 minutes from my house.

YFlyer

babynice wrote: »

Probably a stupid question but I am wondering if these restrictions extend to going for a short drive without getting out of your car? I would often go for a drive around the city just to get out of the house. I would rarely be 10/15 minutes from my house.

On Bobby Kerr now. It says no driving unless essential.

Phoebas

babynice wrote: »

Probably a stupid question but I am wondering if these restrictions extend to going for a short drive without getting out of your car? I would often go for a drive around the city just to get out of the house. I would rarely be 10/15 minutes from my house.

The restrictions relate to distance not mode of transport.
You need to stay within 2k of your home.

Need a Username

tabby aspreme wrote: »

According to there website ,Fastway are providing an essential service, so I reckon the other couriers are the same and will stay working

Yes it is vital that as many parcels as possible get lost or delivered to the wrong place.

Cheers Fastway

Need a Username

Phoebas wrote: »

The restrictions relate to distance not mode of transport.
You need to stay within 2k of your home.

I don’t understand why it is 2KM

What is the significance?

YFlyer

Need a Username wrote: »

I don’t understand why it is 2KM

What is the significance?

It is to lessen the spread.

khalessi

Need a Username wrote: »

I don’t understand why it is 2KM

What is the significance?

Its to try to get people not to get in car to go to parks. basically just walk around your area, be sensible like, well thats what i presume. They know they have to accommodate mental wellbeing so allowing a simple stroll not a trip to the beach

RobbingBandit

Can I still get a bus to local shops when I will need to buy food

whiskeyman

Need a Username wrote: »

I don’t understand why it is 2KM

What is the significance?

Think it's used in France or somewhere else.

Really just a nominal distance to keep people near their house.
I guess we should be aiming for 30mins exercise a day.

Sleeper12

Fann Linn wrote:

Why is this even an issue here when a quick call to the local council could provide the answer?

Call them on Monday. I'm sure you will find that they are closed to the general public. This does not mean that they aren't working. Just not dealing with the public

Kerry25x

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Can I still get a bus to local shops when I will need to buy food

Yes but they will be cutting back on bus services so they'll be less frequent.

ShyMets

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Can I still get a bus to local shops when I will need to buy food

Yo can leave your house to buy food. If you need to get a bus to get to the shops then I believe that's fine

khalessi

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Can I still get a bus to local shops when I will need to buy food

I presume yes if there are buses and as long as its a food shop

Sleeper12

Cilldara_2000 wrote:

Out of interest, how close was the contact with the Garda? Did they have a mask on?

No mask. Stood a few feet away from the van. He was very pleasant. He asked what I thought of the new measures brought in last night.

appledrop

mikekerry wrote: »

Does anyone have clarification on this ?
Can parents take their kids out for a walk or can only 1 parent go out at a time with the kids?
Is there a specific instruction regarding this and if so can someone send the link.
Also are the parks all closed?

Leo clearly stated that people in a family unit can go out for a walk together once within 2km of home . Dont know who decided here about 1 parent thing its nonsense.

I live in Fingal + seems like parks are open in likes of Malahide Castle etc but car parks closed. This makes sense as if you want to use facility you should be in walking distance if your abiding by 2km rules.

BarryD2

whiskeyman wrote: »

Going to be one thing telling my fit 70 year old Dad to stay away from the shop.

Not going for a walk or cycle will be impossible.

Advise him to listen back to RTE Morning Ireland this morning. The people on after 8.30 will put the fear of God into him.

Just curious - why is booze an essential product? Says a fair bit about us! Don't get me wrong, I like my bottle of beer but....

Alun

SOPHIE THE DOG wrote: »

Public notice in today's Irish Times

Can you provide a link to this somehow? I've posted it on the megathread, and practically been accused of making it up, or it being "outdated information". I've tried looking on the IT website but can't find it.

appledrop

whisky_galore wrote: »

What if you don't have a collection and need to bring it to a council yard?

I live in Fingal + our council have said all their bring centre etc are now closed to public. So try check out Twitter page etc fir your local council.

Wesser

Can you go for a drive? Outside of 2 km? Say if you go for a drive and stay in your car continuously.

John.G

Phoebas wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to the rules re cocooning?

Does cocooning mean that over 70s cannot go for a walk within 2km of their homes?.

appledrop

John.G wrote: »

Does cocooning mean that over 70s cannot go for a walk within 2km of their homes?.

Yes that's my reading of it.

However I cant see my parents sticking to this one.

masculinist

Need a Username wrote: »

I think as long as both parents have been taking the precautions and there is no “underlying health issues” then arrangements can continue as normal.

In fact, it might allow extra visits.

Will I need paperwork to walk 5 km to see my kid and drop groceries off to them so they don't need to go into the shops ? If I'm using common sense and wearing a mask will i be left alone ?
I can work from home. So luckily I'm receiving no pay cuts. I bought N95 masks for them at an extortionate price and have made sure I was the only one who ever went near stores. They are 100% safe and I am as safe as possible.
I have pets at my own home I can't abandon and elderly parents who are split up.

Kerry25x

appledrop wrote: »

Leo clearly stated that people in a family unit can go out for a walk together once within 2km of home . Dont know who decided here about 1 parent thing its nonsense.

What he said was individual brief exercise with the exception of children from same household.

Cilldara_2000

Melanchthon wrote: »

They haven't always taken it seriously, they responded well the last handful of weeks but they didn't take it seriously at the start otherwise you would not have had medical staff coming back from hotspots going straight to work in hospitals and the HSE wouldn't be waiting for the ventilators as they government would have put an export ban in until the state had an adequate number for itself (same for PPE)

50% of the world's ventilators are made in Ireland. Had we banned export of them, we would have done far more economic damage to the country than any lockdown can do. Such selfishness will be remembered after the crisis has past, as will the carry on from some European countries.

OmegaGene

OmegaGene wrote: »

RTÉ is a good source for news


Under the new restrictions, people not 'cocooning' can leave their homes for a walk/run within a 2km limit, but can travel beyond the 2km limit for food shopping.

There is no need to panic buy or stockpile and supply chains are working well and will continue to do so.

The 2km limit relates to physical exercise within your locality.

You gave a smart reply to start and then didn’t even answer their question.

Breakerz

When will the list of essential services be released? Very badly handled so far IMO

Jimmy Garlic

masculinist wrote: »

Will I need paperwork to walk 5 km to see my kid and drop groceries off to them so they don't need to go into the shops ? If I'm using common sense and wearing a mask will i be left alone ?

Yes comrade, have your papers in order or face the consequences.

eggy81

Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

Cilldara_2000

Breakerz wrote: »

When will the list of essential services be released? Very badly handled so far IMO

That's extreme. The full list will be published today. They have already published advice for retail. The statutory instrument to give legal effect will be signed today or tomorrow. Cool the jets and take it easy. They're following the advice from the people who know how to handle this sort of thing and it's fast moving situation.

Pauliedragon

Breakerz wrote: »

When will the list of essential services be released? Very badly handled so far IMO

This from RTE this morning

Jimmy Garlic

Kerry25x wrote: »

What he said was individual brief exercise with the exception of children from same household.

children are silent hosts for the virus and shouldn't be seen or heard in public ever again.

Penfailed

Kerry25x wrote: »

What he said was individual brief exercise with the exception of children from same household.

Look at this attachment from the HSE. It clearly states that you should stay within your own household group.

Cilldara_2000

Pauliedragon wrote: »

This from RTE this morning

That's only retail. The full list for every sector will be published today.

Jimmy Garlic

eggy81 wrote: »

Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

Leave him there comrade, in the national interest.

OmegaGene

OmegaGene wrote: »

People not cocooning can exercise and those that are can’t it’s simple

Do all over 70’s have to “cocoon”?

Kerry25x

Penfailed wrote: »

Look at this attachment from the HSE. It clearly states that you should stay within your own household group.

Yes I've seen that. Nobody here made up "one parent nonsense" as that poster stated. It was a very fair interpretation from Leo's speech. Hopefully they will clarify soon.

masculinist

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Yes comrade, have your papers in order or face the consequences.

LOL. I'm supportive of the war against the virus currently.
Theres nothing sadder for society than a Garda or any official acting "thick" and not using common sense when dealing with a supportive citizen. Up to now Ive found them overwhelmingly 'not thick' but if going for a walk makes one a suspect and these really are unusual times

Cilldara_2000

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Do all over 70’s have to “cocoon”?

Yes: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/guidance/vulnerablegroupsguidance/COVID-19%20Guidance%20for%20extremely%20medically%20vulnerable%20V1.pdf

Jimmy Garlic

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Do all over 70’s have to “cocoon”?

Absolutely. Please OBEY the rules and respect your house arrest. The government has spoken.

rusty the athlete

Are we who are "cocooned" allowed to shop for groceries or are we expected to go without food for 2 weeks?

khalessi

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Do all over 70’s have to “cocoon”?

Well if I was related to them I would hope they would cocoon. My parents are lucky though as they have a garden to sit out in or work in. Before thsi my dad got up at 5am for a short walk outside but now they have decided to cocoon so to speak, but be an early riser if you need a walk as less people to come across

joe40

appledrop wrote: »

Leo clearly stated that people in a family unit can go out for a walk together once within 2km of home . Dont know who decided here about 1 parent thing its nonsense.

I live in Fingal + seems like parks are open in likes of Malahide Castle etc but car parks closed. This makes sense as if you want to use facility you should be in walking distance if your abiding by 2km rules.

The guidelines say individual exercise within 2 km. That would suggest adults in the same household should not exercise together.
I presume it is to stop people meeting up. There would be no way to tell if from the same house or not

Fann Linn

Next stage:Soylent Green, for those who fail to cocoon.

Cianos

eggy81 wrote: »

Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

You are allowed travel for vital family reasons such as providing care to children. - From the RTE News website

YFlyer

eggy81 wrote: »

Can I pick up my son from his mum. Short distance away. But is it considered essential

Not advisable. Two different groups.

khalessi

khalessi wrote: »

Well if I was related to them I would hope they would cocoon. My parents are lucky though as they have a garden to sit out in or work in. Before thsi my dad got up at 5am for a short walk outside but now they have decided to cocoon so to speak, but be an early riser if you need a walk as less people to come across

Mine are both 70 and they will without a doubt go walking. My mother especially is addicted to walking.

Fann Linn

Cianos wrote: »

You are allowed travel for vital family reasons such as providing care to children. - From the RTE News website

Correct. Allowances made specifically for family emergencies in Leo's speech last night.

khalessi

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Mine are both 70 and they will without a doubt go walking. My mother especially is addicted to walking.

Same with my folks and dad hates being housebound but they will manage

Skerries

can't even spellcheck their own document

ensure spaces are not crowed