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    #1022
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    _meehan_ wrote: »
    My dad works for a company who also make components for medical devices here in Cork. They have taken on the guidelines extremely well from what he says. Absolutely anyone who can work from home is doing so. The place is like a ghost town apparently and he might meet 3 people in the entire day at a push now.

    You mean agri stuff as stuff that might be used for making food or feeding animals. I would deem them essential including machinary
    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Yeah it's nowhere near a lockdown when most manufacturing facilities are deemed essential. If they make medical devices but not ventilators then no they should not be essential. Money is proving to be higher priority over employees safety.

    We asked all other illnesses to stop during the pandemic and they said no.

    Come on people use your head.


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    #1023
    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Sinn Fein are going to SURGE next election.

    LMAO!!! :D:D:D.

    Thank you. I needed a laugh!


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    #1024
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭degsie


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-2XxgHIXk


    Made me laugh :)


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    #1025
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    I was talking to a guy in a specialist steel fabricators earlier. He said that they are continuing work on HSE related projects and have received letters instructing them on which projects are considered essential and they can continue to work on. They can't work on anything else except those which they have been formally instructed to continue on by the government. Doing something for another project opens them up to all sorts of liability issues, risks huge reputational damage and there would be question marks over the validity of their accreditationss, insurances, etc. Basically working without official instruction could destroy the company.

    It is not as simple as companies deciding for themselves if they are essential or not, as some here are making out. There may be some companies flouting the rules and operating without instruction but these would be very limited and most likely small companies. I can't see many companies, particularly larger ones, putting themselves in jeopardy by opening when they know they shouldn't. There is also little or no market for most goods at the moment beyond medical, pharma and food and their wider supply chains which are permitted to operate. Continuing production doesn't make sense for everyone else, particularly when you can offload staff costs onto the government for a few weeks. I'd really question all these anecdotes about companies operating when they shouldn't because the boss is greedy.


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    #1026
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    The longer this goes on and the more deaths it brings, the more angrier I get with the Chinese. They have reopened the Wet markets where this virus came from. I tell ya I will NEVER eat in a Chinese again and will try my best not to buy products from China. It's their fault


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    #1027
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    it did not come from the wetmarkets, there were cases before the wet market cluster so it's impossible for it to have started in the wetmarkets, you might as well say it started in Ireland if you are going to ignore the fact there were cases beforehand

    gosh once opinions form there is no getting rid of them, is there


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    #1028
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    it did not come from the wetmarkets, there were cases before the wet market cluster so it's impossible for it to have started in the wetmarkets, you might as well say it started in Ireland if you are going to ignore the fact there were cases beforehand

    gosh once opinions form there is no getting rid of them, is there
    The general consensus even from experts is that yes it did start in the Wetmarkets. It's disgusting and barbaric anyway. Eating dogs, cats, bats etc


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    #1029
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    The longer this goes on and the more deaths it brings, the more angrier I get with the Chinese. They have reopened the Wet markets where this virus came from. I tell ya I will NEVER eat in a Chinese again and will try my best not to buy products from China. It's their fault

    Very few Chinese restaurants in Ireland sell actual Chinese food and Chinese people in Ireland no longer support the CCP.
    mullinr2 wrote: »
    The general consensus even from experts is that yes it did start in the Wetmarkets. It's disgusting and barbaric anyway. Eating dogs, cats, bats etc

    Have you even eaten pork or bacon? Pigs are as intelligent as dogs.


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    #1030
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    Very few Chinese restaurants in Ireland sell actual Chinese food and Chinese people in Ireland no longer support the CCP.



    Have you even eaten pork or bacon? Pigs are as intelligent as dogs.
    Whatever about eating dogs and cats, bats and rats carry serious diseases. Are you supporting these wet markets?


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    #1031
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    Whatever about eating dogs and cats, bats and rats carry serious diseases. Are you supporting these wet markets?

    Yes


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    #1032
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes

    So you think it's ok to eat disease carrying species that are proven to pass onto humans through consumption. I know large parts of China are extremely poor and they eat these out of necessity, but they be better off eating legumes and rice than rats and bats. I suppose you think the official death rate in China is real too?


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    #1033
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    So you think it's ok to eat disease carrying species that are proven to pass onto humans through consumption. I know large parts of China are extremely poor and they eat these out of necessity, but they be better off eating legumes and rice than rats and bats. I suppose you think the official death rate in China is real too?

    Yes

    And that is why I will continue to eat the Irish food(but labelled as Chinese) sold in Chinese restaurants over here.


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    #1034
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes

    And that is why I will continue to eat the Irish food(but labelled as Chinese) sold in Chinese restaurants over here.

    That's your decision but I will be boycotting Chinese restaurants and Chinese made products as much as I can. It's the Chinese fault. They have brought this on the world and should suffer through restrictions until they close these wet markets for good.


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    #1035
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    That's your decision but I will be boycotting Chinese restaurants and Chinese made products as much as I can. It's the Chinese fault. They have brought this on the world and should suffer through restrictions until they close these wet markets for good.

    But the Chinese food in Ireland are actually Irish dishes that come from Ireland.
    Chinese people don't actually eat those dishes.
    If the food is sourced locally why would you boycott it?

    As for Chinese products, if you can live without any modern technology it may be possible to boycott many but not all Chinese good.


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    #1036
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    But the Chinese food in Ireland are actually Irish dishes that come from Ireland.
    Chinese people don't actually eat those dishes.
    If the food is sourced locally why would you boycott it?

    As for Chinese products, if you can live without any modern technology it may be possible to boycott many but not all Chinese good.
    Because many of the restaurants are run by Chinese. I know the produce doesn't come from China.


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    #1037
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    Because many of the restaurants are run by Chinese. I know the produce doesn't come from China.

    The're Irish citizen now. How can they be responsible for what happens in China, most have not lived their for decades.


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    #1038
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    The're Irish citizen now. How can they be responsible for what happens in China, most have not lived their for decades.

    They maybe Irish citizens but they're still Chinese


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    #1039
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    They maybe Irish citizens but they're still Chinese

    I doubt they are flying over to support a wet market.
    What if they renounced their Chinese citizenship?


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    #1040
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    I doubt they are flying over to support a wet market.
    What if they renounced their Chinese citizenship?

    They still be Chinese as definition of race


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    #1041
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    They still be Chinese as definition of race

    What about Tibetan food? (they are still part of China)


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    #1042
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,574 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    They maybe Irish citizens but they're still Chinese

    That'll teach the Chinese government...you not getting chicken curry and rice from irish citizens.


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    #1043
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    tuxy wrote: »
    What about Tibetan food? (they are still part of China)

    Do we have Tibetan restaurants in Ireland? Tibet is unlawfully ruled by China. They are not Chinese


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    #1044
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    That'll teach the Chinese government...you not getting chicken curry and rice from irish citizens.

    I think the Chinese may counter this by refusing to eat Bacon and Cabbage.


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    #1045
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    Do we have Tibetan restaurants in Ireland?

    Of course we do, what an odd question.
    But just like the Chinese restaurants they may not contain any authentic dishes.


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    #1046
    Wildsurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    They still be Chinese as definition of race

    You write like china man


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    #1047
    mullinr2
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭mullinr2


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    You write like china man

    You write like a China man!!


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    #1048
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    You write like china man

    Maybe he works for the CCP and this is a ploy to get all the people in Chinese restaurants to return home. The bastardised, westernised versions of Chinese dishes is an abomination and embarrassment to the country of China.


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    #1049
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The Chinese restaurants and take aways were the very first businesses impacted over here because of the virus


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    #1050
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    The Chinese restaurants and take aways were the very first businesses impacted over here because of the virus

    Was it the virus that did that or ignorant people?


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    #1051
    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    mullinr2 wrote: »
    That's your decision but I will be boycotting Chinese restaurants and Chinese made products as much as I can. It's the Chinese fault. They have brought this on the world and should suffer through restrictions until they close these wet markets for good.
    This is a pretty moronic attitude.

    It's not anyone's fault the virus mutated the way it did or where it did.

    By the time the Chinese were aware of what they were dealing with it was already too late. Yes, they tried to play it down at the start but we know now they could never have stopped it.

    Coronavirus has been around for 90 years. It's also found in cows, pigs, and poultry. This could just as easily started in Mayo as it did in Wuhan.


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