Mental health and CoVid-19

Graces7

is_that_so wrote: »

They communicate every day, we now know their one and only focus is virus transmission. The rest is just data we can all read and responsibility for measures lies with the government anyway.

Of course it is; that is their job and their function! And that is what all the restrictions are there to combat; covid-19.

It is their responsibility to speak as they do And they do it well.

And there is no need to read them. I have no radio or TV and limit internet news access.

Look after yourself; please! Doing that is our job and our responsibility as in co-operating and obeying .

Graces7

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I wish I had words of support and comfort for you all but I can't find any. It all feels so oppressive. Each time I think of life continuing in this way my stomach turns to mush and I get an ache in my chest. I'm reading everything about Covid desperate for something positive to appear. A life in and out of lockdown is no life at all for me. This I know is grief and eventually I will reach acceptance. Really just hope I don't have to. I was firmly in the camp of living alongside Covid but the Government doesn't seem to think that's possible so I hope for a vaccine.

Other people I encounter don't seem to be struggling the way I am. I guess that's why I'm posting here. It helps to feel less like I'm weak and with no resilience when I know others are going through similar.

(((HUGS)))

We all have that resilience but it lies dormant until is in needed...

As others have said, we all need to find ways to enjoy life in this situation. yes ENJOY... FInd a new " hobby " ( hate that word)

Maybe get in touch with your local emergency volunteer group to see if there is anything you can do to help? Old wrecks(!!) like me are dependent on you for our shopping, meds etc and they need more folk … and many old folk are crippled by loneliness" . Even a face at the window? A phone call?

Maybe make your own Christmas cards this year?

Many feel as bad as you do; reach out?

You are worth so much! As you are and as you can be.

Drifter50

Wanderer78 wrote: »

so effectively silencing the medical professionals in communicating their findings and knowledge to the general public?

Perhaps you are posting in the wrong forum. You seem to be venting at some posters on here with some smart comments. Please don`t make little of other peoples struggles and issues. It is`nt helpful. Some of us are overwhelmed by the media driven doom laden narrative

begbysback

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I wish I had words of support and comfort for you all but I can't find any. It all feels so oppressive. Each time I think of life continuing in this way my stomach turns to mush and I get an ache in my chest. I'm reading everything about Covid desperate for something positive to appear. A life in and out of lockdown is no life at all for me. This I know is grief and eventually I will reach acceptance. Really just hope I don't have to. I was firmly in the camp of living alongside Covid but the Government doesn't seem to think that's possible so I hope for a vaccine.

Other people I encounter don't seem to be struggling the way I am. I guess that's why I'm posting here. It helps to feel less like I'm weak and with no resilience when I know others are going through similar.

My mental health regarding Covid is now fairly straightforward, the less I read about Covid the better off I am, the more I read the worse I get. Media has the biggest impact on people’s health and unfortunately it will never suggest to stop watching or stop reading about Covid, though this to me seems to be the perfect remedy.

lynyg18

Self compassion is really important. Put your hand on your heart and say to yourself I’m sorry this is so hard right now, need to be kind to yourself it is not a normal time and this is difficult. Brain is just reacting to a fight or flight response, the danger is covid this time but the mind will react this way regardless of the danger, please treat yourselves as you would treat a good friend

Lavinia

begbysback wrote: »

My mental health regarding Covid is now fairly straightforward, the less I read about Covid the better off I am, the more I read the worse I get. Media has the biggest impact on people’s health and unfortunately it will never suggest to stop watching or stop reading about Covid, though this to me seems to be the perfect remedy.

doing that for the last 6 months, guess what? didn't miss anything. :pac:

ThewhiteJesus

begbysback wrote: »

My mental health regarding Covid is now fairly straightforward, the less I read about Covid the better off I am, the more I read the worse I get. Media has the biggest impact on people’s health and unfortunately it will never suggest to stop watching or stop reading about Covid, though this to me seems to be the perfect remedy.

+1 100%
I suffer with the black dog and the last lockdown sent me a bit off the wall listening to the nightly doom and gloom merchants on rte.
So i've stopped, i do the basics as is washing hands ect and keeping at a safe distance and my mood while still terrible is way better than it was.
So yes totally agree switch off the news

GoneHome

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It all feels so oppressive. Each time I think of life continuing in this way my stomach turns to mush and I get an ache in my chest. I'm reading everything about Covid desperate for something positive to appear. A life in and out of lockdown is no life at all for me.

Not trying to get at you personally or anything but I really can't understand that way of thinking, yes life is different but in reality how different is it? From my own point of view I can still get out for a lovely walk in the countryside here within the 5 km limit, actually did it twice today, can still read, watch movies, cook lovely meals, have a few beers at the weekend, keep in contact with family and friends through phone calls, texts, whats app, zoom, etc. Yes I know there's no foreign holidays or even weekends away but f$%k it I'd prefer to be content and safe here at home than risking my health mixing with others. You have to see the positives.

fin12

GoneHome wrote: »

Not trying to get at you personally or anything but I really can't understand that way of thinking, yes life is different but in reality how different is it? From my own point of view I can still get out for a lovely walk in the countryside here within the 5 km limit, actually did it twice today, can still read, watch movies, cook lovely meals, have a few beers at the weekend, keep in contact with family and friends through phone calls, texts, whats app, zoom, etc. Yes I know there's no foreign holidays or even weekends away but f$%k it I'd prefer to be content and safe here at home than risking my health mixing with others. You have to see the positives.

Not everyone has a happy home environment, that’s the point so to be ordered to stay at home is not going to be easy, for some people being at home is the last place they want to be. How has that not entered your head? Domestic abuse is rampant in this country. Look beyond ur own little bubble.

GoneHome

GoneHome wrote: »

Not trying to get at you personally or anything but I really can't understand that way of thinking, yes life is different but in reality how different is it? From my own point of view I can still get out for a lovely walk in the countryside here within the 5 km limit, actually did it twice today, can still read, watch movies, cook lovely meals, have a few beers at the weekend, keep in contact with family and friends through phone calls, texts, whats app, zoom, etc. Yes I know there's no foreign holidays or even weekends away but f$%k it I'd prefer to be content and safe here at home than risking my health mixing with others. You have to see the positives.

I agree we have to see the positives and I'm trying to.

There are a few reasons why it feels oppressive to me. I can't do things I used to do. Things I loved. Sitting in a cafe or quiet pub, jumping on a train for a day out in Galway, nights out with my friends, going to workshops related to much job and hearing the experiences of colleagues. It all matters to me. I love people. I'm the person who will chat away with you on a bus, who loves to wander around Grafton St soaking it all in. Even the lack of events I have no interest makes me sad. No big hurling matches or festivals or hundreds of people all coming together.
And trying to manage what feels like opposing mental states of not wanting to get Covid and wanting to live my life.

If your life is mostly unchanged by the pandemic then I can understand how you wouldn't feel as I do. Your experience is different. Most of us I think are having differing experiences of this.

fin12

fin12 wrote: »

Not everyone has a happy home environment, that’s the point so to be ordered to stay at home is not going to be easy, for some people being at home is the last place they want to be. How has that not entered your head? Domestic abuse is rampant in this country. Look beyond ur own little bubble.

There are an an awful lot of frightening home situations for people. Imagine being locked up with your abuser. Panorama did a documentary back in the summer and one of the women interviewed spoke about her experience. Her partner actually said to her "let the games begin"
It would break your heart.

GoneHome

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I agree we have to see the positives and I'm trying to.

There are a few reasons why it feels oppressive to me. I can't do things I used to do. Things I loved. Sitting in a cafe or quiet pub, jumping on a train for a day out in Galway, nights out with my friends, going to workshops related to much job and hearing the experiences of colleagues. It all matters to me. I love people. I'm the person who will chat away with you on a bus, who loves to wander around Grafton St soaking it all in. Even the lack of events I have no interest makes me sad. No big hurling matches or festivals or hundreds of people all coming together.
And trying to manage what feels like opposing mental states of not wanting to get Covid and wanting to live my life.

If your life is mostly unchanged by the pandemic then I can understand how you wouldn't feel as I do. Your experience is different. Most of us I think are having differing experiences of this.

Ah yes I can see that point of view too and how my life has really changed very little with the restrictions, have to say I was delighted to see the hurling and rugby back this weekend brough back some bit of normality too.

Skippyme

Living with the virus and continuing with sports etc. ... leads to the herd immunity being in place automatically.

As long as it's still there even at a lower rate, then it forces compromised people to be stuck forever in the never ending in-between-mode with no end maybe. People that think they cannot stay apart indefinitely are choosing other's endgame of being boxed away

New Zealand are back in theatres etc. living pretty much without Covid. Better off without it could live as domestic tourists and work as normal if we were free

GoneHome

fin12 wrote: »

Not everyone has a happy home environment, that’s the point so to be ordered to stay at home is not going to be easy, for some people being at home is the last place they want to be. How has that not entered your head? Domestic abuse is rampant in this country. Look beyond ur own little bubble.

Ah you know there's a worldwide pandemic going on here don't you, that's the whole point of keeping people at home :rolleyes:

GoneHome

GoneHome wrote: »

Ah you know there's a worldwide pandemic going on here don't you, that's the whole point of keeping people at home :rolleyes:

What fin is trying to say though is that home can be hell for some people.

Skippyme

Deleted User wrote: »

What fin is trying to say though is that home can be hell for some people.

Yes it can drive people up the wall, but by spreading the virus at even a slower rate it means other people will be stuck inside longer, maybe forgotten but still watching the world go by

So what I mean is

Skippyme wrote: »

Living with the virus and continuing with sports etc. ... leads to the herd immunity being in place automatically.

As long as it's still there even at a lower rate, then it forces compromised people to be stuck forever in the never ending in-between-mode with no end maybe. People that think they cannot stay apart indefinitely are choosing other's endgame of being boxed away

New Zealand are back in theatres etc. living pretty much without Covid. Better off without it could live as domestic tourists and work as normal if we were free

GoneHome

GoneHome wrote: »

Not trying to get at you personally or anything but I really can't understand that way of thinking, yes life is different but in reality how different is it? From my own point of view I can still get out for a lovely walk in the countryside here within the 5 km limit, actually did it twice today, can still read, watch movies, cook lovely meals, have a few beers at the weekend, keep in contact with family and friends through phone calls, texts, whats app, zoom, etc. Yes I know there's no foreign holidays or even weekends away but f$%k it I'd prefer to be content and safe here at home than risking my health mixing with others. You have to see the positives.

Risking your health, how? From Covid? Are you in the 0.03% that's at risk? Sorry to hear.

Ten of Swords

Deleted User wrote: »

Risking your health, how? From Covid? Are you in the 0.03% that's at risk? Sorry to hear.

Can we keep the barbs and the arguing out of the mental health thread, it doesn't help anyone. This thread is supposed to be about help and resources for people's mental health and an outlet for people to voice their concerns during this unprecedented and stressful time.

This applies to everyone, take the bickering somewhere else

GoneHome

Deleted User wrote: »

Risking your health, how? From Covid? Are you in the 0.03% that's at risk? Sorry to hear.

I read a great quote recently, if 1 in every 100 get Covid and potentially die from it, which of your 100 family or friends would you chose to be that 1, makes you think....... so I would say don't be so quick to judge.

GoneHome

GoneHome wrote: »

I read a great quote recently, if 1 in every 100 get Covid and potentially die from it, which of your 100 family or friends would you chose to be that 1, makes you think....... so I would say don't be so quick to judge.

Problem with that quote is it's fictional and not based on statistics, so therefor irrelevant.

Anyway, back on topic. Hope everyone out there is well. Exercise common sense, but keep calm and carry on. I recommend everyone try 48hrs without reading any Covid news whatsoever. I guarantee you'll feel better. After that, perhaps continue this new habit moving forward.

GoneHome

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Problem with that quote is it's fictional and not based on statistics, so therefor irrelevant.

Look that's fine if that's how you want to deal with it, I know I have elderly parents who would be considered in the "at risk" category so I'm not taking the risk of exposing them to the virus.

GoneHome

GoneHome wrote: »

Look that's fine if that's how you want to deal with it, I know I have elderly parents who would be considered in the "at risk" category so I'm not taking the risk of exposing them to the virus.

Yeah, I understand. It's just that in your earlier post you said "not risk my health". I was responding specifically to that as Covid is statistically very likely not a risk to your health (unless you have underlying conditions). I assumed you didn't live with your parents either, as you said "I talk to family and friends through Zoom etc". Best of luck anyway; keep living

Herb Powell

GoneHome wrote: »

Not trying to get at you personally or anything but I really can't understand that way of thinking, yes life is different but in reality how different is it? From my own point of view I can still get out for a lovely walk in the countryside here within the 5 km limit, actually did it twice today, can still read, watch movies, cook lovely meals, have a few beers at the weekend, keep in contact with family and friends through phone calls, texts, whats app, zoom, etc. Yes I know there's no foreign holidays or even weekends away but f$%k it I'd prefer to be content and safe here at home than risking my health mixing with others. You have to see the positives.

My life and that of most of my friends, is completely upside down at the moment. I've heavily involved in music for years as soon as I was able (playing, recording, attending, organising), and that's just gone indefinitely. Socialising normally is out the window too.

They're not essential on the level of eating etc but it's a MASSIVE difference to life if this is what was normal to you before. I'm not complaining mind, everyone is losing something at the moment and tbh I think I'm handling it fine. But it is fairly unrecognisable at the moment to be quite honest.

TomSweeney

Feeling pretty ****ty to be honest after last nights primetime.

The vaccine was a hope for me , I never thought it would be an instant fix but the beginning of the end at the least.
Now according to PT nothing will change, whats the bloody point in making them so ????


I can only see this going on for years and years.... and yes before people jump on me and say my positive posts on other threads seem to condradict this, it's something I do maybe to convince myself.

TomSweeney

GoneHome wrote: »

I read a great quote recently, if 1 in every 100 get Covid and potentially die from it, which of your 100 family or friends would you chose to be that 1, makes you think....... so I would say don't be so quick to judge.

hmm I don't think that will help in here, the IFR is not as high as 1/100 ... closer to 2/1000 ...

uli84

Only 1 week of that ****ty Level 5 in and it’s so so bad. When I think that another 5 weeks at minimum ahead all I do is cry. Hearing more and more from friends about the job losses doesn’t help, limiting shopping even more than in April doesn’t help, worse weather than in April doesn’t help. I just hope something big happens and it will all end somehow, don’t mind anymore whether in a good or bad way.

GoneHome

uli84 wrote: »

I just hope something big happens and it will all end somehow, don’t mind anymore whether in a good or bad way.

I can't believe I just read that :mad:

Lavinia

this situation is not good for (my) mental health.. i have to admit. i am finding myself sad and melancholic most of the time in a day.. cant meet people who'd i love to meet, friends, family, and travel home nor even know when will i be able to see them again.. stuck in prison of apartment +5km.. how can it feel good????

uli84

uli84 wrote: »

Only 1 week of that ****ty Level 5 in and it’s so so bad. When I think that another 5 weeks at minimum ahead all I do is cry. Hearing more and more from friends about the job losses doesn’t help, limiting shopping even more than in April doesn’t help, worse weather than in April doesn’t help. I just hope something big happens and it will all end somehow, don’t mind anymore whether in a good or bad way.

Lavinia wrote: »

this situation is not good for (my) mental health.. i have to admit. i am finding myself sad and melancholic most of the time in a day.. cant meet people who'd i love to meet, friends, family, and travel home nor even know when will i be able to see them again.. stuck in prison of apartment +5km.. how can it feel good????

You've got to put things in perspective. There's people sitting in literal prisons all around the world right now, who will never be released, and maybe only get out of their cell for an hour or two a day. Your life and (for the most part) freedom is something they can only dream about. Even then, some can find solace in the coldest cell block. You can certainly find it in your current situation.

Immerse yourself in things of interest. Books, internet, video games, sports, exercise, cooking, meet your friends for a walk / coffee, go for a drive etc etc. You've so much to be grateful for; you've just got to allow your mind to see it.

Lavinia

Well I did not murder anyone nor acted irresponsibly so not sure how could you compare my situation with people in real prisons for life, who are there for a very good reason..