Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Stevieluvsye

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Hello all,

Today I am worrying,

I don’t smoke and have never had breathing issues, but I am feeling an ever so slight sensation in my chest and if I breath out hard I can hear a very slight wheezing.

The question I have is who do you call if you think you should be tested and I am hearing the test is €500? Surley that’s Bo**ox?

Have people gone mad?

Lord Trollington

zippy84 wrote: »

I heard it was the size of four cats, and has a retractable leg so it can leap at you better. Also it's luminous in the dark, has four ears, two are normal ears and the other two are just backup ears. It claws the size of cups, an unexplained phobia of stamps, a magnetic tail, and instead of a face it has four arses.

Pure Brilliance .

tobefrank321

ITman88 wrote: »

This is the most realistic approach, experts on this thread are quoting the Wuhan approach of total lockdown, the same posters who are saying China aren’t telling us the truth, and what’s to say as soon as the lockdown ends the cases won’t escalate once again?!

Isolating people is not going to kill the virus. The virus will survive.

We cannot lock down indefinitely, in spite of what the medical experts on here are saying.

Always at a time like this you get people coming up with stuff like pintless washing your hands, if you are infected just go to work and infect everyone else, no point to a vaccine, vitamin D will cure it, if you wear a bracelet it will cure it, symptoms will be mild, etc etc.

Head in the sand stuff. Over 650 dead in Italy within 3 weeks of an outbreak. We are about 2 weeks behind if we continue with your advice.

KWAG2019

zippy84 wrote: »

I heard it was the size of four cats, and has a retractable leg so it can leap at you better. Also it's luminous in the dark, has four ears, two are normal ears and the other two are just backup ears. It claws the size of cups, an unexplained phobia of stamps, a magnetic tail, and instead of a face it has four arses.

And Facebook webpages are riddles with it. You can get it by looking at them.

wakka12

Another import from a non Italian country, a croatian man tests positve after returning from a trip to Munch. There have been at least 50 cases in the last day of tourists contracting coronavirus in a variety of european countries other than Italy.

Egypt continues to pop up, 9 tourists were today infected after returning from a trip there. The country has only reported less than 60 cases themselves.

Cilldara_2000

zippy84 wrote: »

I heard it was the size of four cats, and has a retractable leg so it can leap at you better. Also it's luminous in the dark, has four ears, two are normal ears and the other two are just backup ears. It claws the size of cups, an unexplained phobia of stamps, a magnetic tail, and instead of a face it has four arses.

The philatelists will be grand so.

If nothing else, this thread is great for the Fr Ted references.

scamalert

Deleted User wrote: »

<0.1% death rate for flu
1 - 3% death rate for COVID19


10 to 30 times more fatal and only not spreading because people are being MUCH more careful than during flu season

ive seen those stats but its compiled well over the years, i mean the initial break out, so 3 months period- how many were dead, or in intensive care vs what we have now.


as influenza took 45k deaths thats a lot corona on the other hand seems slow, as given where it originated population wise and how compcted chinsese were its tiny number to have for 14mill over 3k deaths.

Wibbs

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Hello all,

Today I am worrying,

I don’t smoke and have never had breathing issues, but I am feeling an ever so slight sensation in my chest and if I breath out hard I can hear a very slight wheezing.

The question I have is who do you call if you think you should be tested and I am hearing the test is €500? Surley that’s Bo**ox?

More likely slight anxiety I'd imagine. Fever and a cough is the main symptom of the infection.

TheAsYLuMkeY

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Have people gone mad?

So it is Bo**ox yes, i thought as much.

Who to call? GP or 999 ambulance service?

josip

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Hello all,

Today I am worrying,

I don’t smoke and have never had breathing issues, but I am feeling an ever so slight sensation in my chest and if I breath out hard I can hear a very slight wheezing.

The question I have is who do you call if you think you should be tested and I am hearing the test is €500? Surley that’s Bo**ox?

Yes bo||ox about the cost, that's in some parts of the US, possibly.

RandomViewer

dougm1970 wrote: »

whats happening in russia?....are they not reporting cases or testing ?.....or are they really not getting hit as hard....i see countries further away from equator like greenland not getting hit, but russia has hard hit countries like sweden and finland beside it....mongolia the same with low figures and china and south korea beside it.....and then theres turkeys numbers.
its a curiosity.

so much as a sniffle and you're in the oven , I suspect

TheAsYLuMkeY

Wibbs wrote: »

More likely slight anxiety I'd imagine. Fever and a cough is the main symptom of the infection.

But i am thinking if i have got it, better i test now and remove myself from circulation to protect others.

josip

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

So it is Bo**ox yes, i thought as much.

Who to call? GP or 999 ambulance service?

Not 999, GP should be able to give you the correct HSE number to call.

Cilldara_2000

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Hello all,

Today I am worrying,

I don’t smoke and have never had breathing issues, but I am feeling an ever so slight sensation in my chest and if I breath out hard I can hear a very slight wheezing.

The question I have is who do you call if you think you should be tested and I am hearing the test is €500? Surley that’s Bo**ox?

Like srsly, for any personal health issues, speak to your GP. Not your local social media.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Me too.
GP nags me until I get the flu jab and this year she included the pneumonia one as well.

Oh, I never get the flu jab. :pac: I’m very truculent when it comes to medication and only take what I absolutely have to.

scamalert

scamalert wrote: »

ive seen those stats but its compiled well over the years, i mean the initial break out, so 3 months period- how many were dead, or in intensive care vs what we have now.


as influenza took 45k deaths thats a lot corona on the other hand seems slow, as given where it originated population wise and how compcted chinsese were its tiny number to have for 14mill over 3k deaths.

Corona is slow because the whole world is doing containment measures. FFS China shut a city down with a population x2 that Ireland. No one shuts anything for flu.

Stevieluvsye

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

So it is Bo**ox yes, i thought as much.

Who to call? GP or 999 ambulance service?

GP

ITman88

RandomViewer wrote: »

Covid 19 is 10 to 15 times more deadly than the flu,

Tripe.
Figures can’t be determined until testing is increased and time has passed so medical science can get an accurate measurement of cases to fatalities.
South Korea has undertaken intensive testing and uncovered a low fatality rate.
The inaccurate figures come from low numbers of tests carried out and thus people having the virus and not being tested.
Numbers will be in accurate for a while.
On a positive Ireland currently has a 0% fatality rate

banie01

Deleted User wrote: »

My wife is a nurse, I am currently working from home

Plumbers and Gardaí are lower level workers???

Once fixes big shít problems! The other little shít ones :P


Edit:
Both are emergency services tho, and when the shíts ankle deep....
A gaurd isn't helping! :pac:

TheAsYLuMkeY

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Like srsly, for any personal health issues, speak to your GP. Not your local social media.

Your a great help, thank you.

RandomName2

ITman88 wrote: »

But running and hiding from the disease won’t kill it, sorry for being a “screeching you are just hysterical “ type of poster, which btw is a great example to use as a definition of hypocrisy!!!

Technically blanket isolation would kill it. It needs a host to survive. However, you don't need to isolate individuals from the disease, you can isolate entire healthy communities from the disease.

While I would usually be more willing to entertain dialog from any side in relation to this, it's also clear that time is of the essence.

I also feel that people who have tried to minimize the disease have had a vested interest in doing so. Attempting to disregard a particular stance as simply being 'scaremongering' (without actually putting any evidence forward to why it is) I feel has often been motivated by personal feelings concerning disruption to daily life or financial security.

It would be hypocritical if I were quoting figures that were made up, and that the disease was not dangerous to the public in general, but was only dangerous to myself because I had a relatively rare condition that would leave me susceptible to it (let's say cystic fibrosis).

However this is not the case. I have been conservative with my estimates and used publicly available, and verified, information to make best-case scenario projections that are backed up by experts. 20,000 deaths in Ireland is a reasonable scenario. I would prefer if people who go on about 'scaremongering' or 'hysterical nonsense' would own this number and say 'yes, I think that is a more reasonable cost than the financial burden that would be involved in halting the spread'.

circadian

scamalert wrote: »

anyone have any stats from when influenza hit and how many deaths it had in say same period as corona, people aww here at few deaths, when we had 100 confirmed from flu alone - easily treatable and preventable, but reality is those at risk can still die,


and while some think brits taking no action and accounting for deaths, id say its fare, as eventually most will get it, but judging by the symptoms its only severe cases and small % that have highest risk.


as someone made comparison to road deaths, cancer etc - in many cases it can be stopped or prevented but reality is it still happens on daily basis, and coronavirus would need more then few thousand deaths to compare whats going ww daily

Cancer and car crashes are not contagious. We have a certain level of herd immunity against flu which is boosted with a vaccine, not to mention the death rate per case is multiples lower than Covid-19.

Edit: we don't have pandemics of car crashes and cancer crippling the health system and while flu outbreaks can cause a strain at times it'll be nothing like an outbreak with no herd immunity.

spookwoman

Graces7 wrote: »

I have amended my post.

However your response was still unacceptable; you went too far the other way.
Far too far.
Over and out from me Bye

Only after a few people got onto you about it. How is saying Bull unacceptable when what you posted before the change was misinformation?
:rolleyes:

namloc1980

These threads are going to be epic to look back on. Some student could write a thesis on them.

Graces7

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It’s not every immunocompromised person that can’t receive vaccines. It depends on the person and the vaccine. Many immunocompromised people are told to get the flu jab for example. I know that because I’m one of those people.

Agree fully but the reverse applies too; I have amended my post to that effect.
And I am very glad it works for thee

The advice to me has been consistent over many years even through GP changes and I trust it especially with the serious and dangerous vaccine damage I suffered

It was badly handled by spookwoman as she chose to be insulting! REALLY!

Over and out on this and thank you again; we have sorted that issue!

05eaftqbrs9jlh

2lazytogetup wrote: »

i heard that for some viruses, if one person catches it, fights it, and passes it on, the next person doesnt get it as bad because the first person's immune system has weakened the virus. i havent heard this idea come up in discussion.

anyone know?

this is different to the herd immunisation, as im not talking about people having had a vaccine.

Humans have NO KNOWN IMMUNITY to this and there is NO treatment to slow it down once people are infected, it's just a matter of waiting for it to creep into the lungs. There is no value in speculating about this happening until there is any evidence whatsoever that we will be able to fight it or figure out a method of treatment which isn't keeping the ill person breathing using machines, which we have a huge scarcity of.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

People have been criticising Luke O’Neill. The one thing that left me dissatisfied from his McWilliams podcast, that I thought he was complacent about was that he didn’t acknowledge that some young, healthy people have died from it. The Chinese whistleblower was a young, otherwise healthy (that I know of) guy and he died from it. That has been at the back of my mind since I heard about it. Does that mean you don’t have to be immunocompromised and/or elderly to die from this?

They are really going hard on "young people can't get affected badly by this" line so as to keep most people going about their business as normal. I even heard a heavily edited interview with a guy who got it in the UK on Seán Ó Rourke earlier. I had read his story, when phase two kicked in he nearly died of pneumonia because he woke up in the middle of the night, couldn't breathe and would have suffocated if his flatmate hadn't called an ambulance.

Healthy, young people CAN and DO DIE from this and will be doing so in their droves when our health system becomes fully overwhelmed in a fortnight because we don't have the resources or staff to be able to treat them. Look at the Italian surgeons' messages and the young man with his dead sister. The only thing we can do now that it is circulating freely in our communities is to prioritise whether we need to go out at all and minimise interaction. Everyone is being put at risk by government inertia and the economy is going to be much worse hit down the line with the impact from needless death brought about by these unfolding mistakes.

ITman88

ITman88 wrote: »

Tripe.
Figures can’t be determined until testing is increased and time has passed so medical science can get an accurate measurement of cases to fatalities.
South Korea has undertaken intensive testing and uncovered a low fatality rate.
The inaccurate figures come from low numbers of tests carried out and thus people having the virus and not being tested.
Numbers will be in accurate for a while.
On a positive Ireland currently has a 0% fatality rate

Right, you go and tell the WHO that ITman88.
They'll be delighted to amend their figures based on your massive experience

Kaisr Sose

RandomName2 wrote: »

We already have seen people go off on skiing holidays.. skiing holidays.. when it was already clear that doing so would lead to high chance of picking up the disease.

Thsts a bizarre statement. What is your source for stating that skiing exposes you to the virus? It just happened people in a ski resort in Northern Italy came into contact with an infected person and it spread from there. Lots of ski resorts in Europe report no cases and are not subject to closure orders. You are as likely to get it on a cruise ship, city or beach.

Cilldara_2000

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Your a great help, thank you.

You're very welcome.

4068ac1elhodqr

RandomViewer wrote: »

so much as a sniffle and you're in the oven , I suspect

Agree lol, same goes for Turkey based on their '1 single case' as a grand total, announded just today.


A huge country, and 80m in a growing hotspot area.
Perhaps they're pushing them towards Greece along with the 10's of thousands others they don't want to look after.