Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Downlinz

Deleted User wrote: »

It has peaked and is in decline in China & S. Korea. It will follow the same path in Italy too.

People saying this do realise why the numbers are decreasing in China and South Korea, right? It was because of aggressive containment action and shutting down schools, services and travel.
Italy may follow the same path but only after getting serious with a lockdown.

The lessons to take is that the virus won't simply burn out by itself and we need extreme measures to contain it.

Funsterdelux

Gods Gift wrote: »

Priests are to wfh.

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Rob A. Bank

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 10 March 2020



An significant increase in the daily cases in Europe today to approx 3.3k/day.

Very worrying.

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Drumpot

iguana wrote: »

I think that in terms of how terrifying it is for ordinary people a few factors come into it. I'm pretty prepared for the a lockdown. I have supplies, I have plans for activities with my 7 year old, I'm mentally as prepared as possible. I'm watching this happen in Italy now, so it's easier to make the mental leap that this might/will happen to us. I'm somewhat stressed every time I go out or send my son to school. Every single little thing I do has become a big decision now, I'm making constant risk assessments about where I go and where my son goes. Being forced to stay home will actually alleviate all that stress. For people who are worried now having decisions taken out of their hands will be a form of relief.

For people who have ignored this or thought the situation was silly, being forced onto lockdown will have shocked them to their core. If they aren't prepared to be stuck at home they will be feeling sudden panic and regret for not paying attention when they had a chance. They won't be practically or mentally prepared. They will have gone from cheerily going about their lives or thinking their own drama was more important to a sudden emersion in the seriousness which will feel more terrifying because of the sudden shock of it and the fact that it could be too late to take practical measures to make the lockdown more bearable.

Totally agree and getting "mentally prepared" was something Dr Aylward said (think two weeks ago) was so important.

Ive been watching this since January, going through a full range of emotions at different times. But as soon as I saw Dr Aylward say this I got really sad at the thought of what might be happening. But I moved on and continued getting ready , I have been taking measures since Feb 11th (can check with Amazon!).

So, I have been getting little doses of fear and preparing for the last month. Dr Aylward also said no matter how prepared you are, you can not be fully prepared for this so I am accepting that when this really does get bad it will be frightening.

Anybody who still doesnt know who this man is, should read:

https://www.who.int/dg/adg/aylward/en/

And watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF6AZv8P3i4

This was on Feb 25th and he has been spot on, Italy are starting to do what China did. I remember watching it and scoffing at the start because he was lauding what China had been doing to stop the spread. Its long, but its eye opening and more relevant to us in Ireland now that its in our country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2_FkyY3BOM

Mar 4 interview with C4. Basically saying countries are cherry picking mortality numbers to suit themselves. Possibly to avoid being accused of "scaremongering" and actually taking preventative measures quickly. He is saying the mortality rate doesn't have to be this high and make your population the surveillance system with education and measures to encourage it.

I think again people like this have been trying to warn us for along time. But "not hearing scary things " and being unhappy with being inconvenienced is not popular in western cultures. In short, I think alot of our society do prefer to ignore these warnings until they are on front of them.

Anytime you see him being interviewed, just know he knows what hes talking about and you should take heed.

nthclare

It would make sense for the banks to freeze peoples mortgage payments for maybe 2 months.
In all fairness if people are down to the 305 euro a week and haven't much savings how will they pay for the mortgage at the end of the month without dying of hunger or basically being broke.

They're bank accounts would be frozen they'd basically have nothing if they're not getting their regular salaries.

HowardBeale

deisedevil wrote: »

There's honestly that many factual inaccuracies in your post that I don't know where to begin. I hope no one takes any of your advice. Please do a bit more to educate yourself. Don't be one of those who forms your opinions based on the research you did in your own head.

There's so many factual inaccuracies you can't name one eh!.

Also I haven't offered any advice. Think vitamins and minerals boost the immune system, you dispute this?.

If so why?.

Also research in my own head as opposed to?. Research in my ankles?.

Ultimately all research is done in someone's head regardless of where or what the source is including all your research and everyone else's on planet earth that statement you made makes no sense.

Anyways You stick with the wet wipes and I'll stick with the vitamins and minerals eh!.

Hopefully the (belated) realism from the government yesterday jolted the majority out of their complacency over this. The virologists and epidemiologists are relentlessy hammering this message home: its only the population themselves by behaviour modification can stop this. Its doesn't take much sometimes to alter an exponential trend. Washing hands properly can cut virus spread by up to 54%. Throw in social distancing as well and the risk is cut further. If a majority heed this advice the total number of cases CAN be cut drastically.

Graces7

Daniel Important Zen wrote: »

aspirin reduces blood clotting. iIbuprofen impedes platelet activity. People with blood clotting disorders are advised not to use either.

As I said; ask advice from pharmacy or GP.. Not here.

eviltimeban

Remember when all we had to worry about was boiling our water... simpler times.

Strazdas

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 10 March 2020


An significant increase in the daily cases in Europe today to approx 3.3k/day.

Very worrying.

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Numbers are extremely low relative to population though (and Italy is responsible for the vast number of cases).

Tacitus Kilgore

Lord Trollington wrote: »

A worker at the hospital.

A worker at the hospital told me there isn't coronavirus there - who's right?

ITman88

owlbethere wrote: »

Graces7 tipped into this at the weekend. For toilet paper, use cloths, soak in buckets and wash. To save toilet paper, the cloths can be used for wiping after pees. The toilet paper can be used for No.2s

As bad as it is I never thought I’d see advice on how to wipe your arse on this thread

Bob24

Irish Stones wrote: »

All transfers outside one's town or city have to be motivated with an absolutely nececessary reason.

I am curious, how is that enforce. Is there actually a government employee checking who is boarding any buses/trains to check they can prove their reason they are giving is valid? Is it just an oral declaration to the ticket seller? Something else? And some for roads?

eviltimeban

eviltimeban wrote: »

Remember when all we had to worry about was boiling our water... simpler times.

Still good advice. I'd advise people to boil their cutlery before use as well as washing hands thoroughly before food preparation.

New Home

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You won’t be laughing when you realise that tap water has the same level of filtration as bottled water, sometimes better.

eviltimeban wrote: »

Remember when all we had to worry about was boiling our water... simpler times.

That's not gone away, you know.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

Still good advice. I'd advise people to boil their cutlery before use as well as washing hands thoroughly before food preparation.

I tried to boil mine just now it melted

Midnight Sundance

circadian wrote: »

Sore throat is a symptom but from what I can tell a runny nose is extremely rare (around 4% of cases reported it in a study). It's a lower respiratory illness so if he develops a fever and a harsh dry cough then I'd be contacting GP, but it's probably a head cold. I think I'm on my 4th or 5th cold this season since the two kids bring literally everything home.

Hes no muscle aches,cough , fever, etc thankfully. Well keep an eye on him but pretty certain it's a runny nose the Same as baby, n reckon his sore throat is from the snoring hes suddenly become fond of lol

Mr Velo

Apple Cork employee case confirmed... https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/apple-employee-at-cork-campus-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-39032207.html

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gabeeg wrote: »

That's an interesting idea. Have you read it somewhere, or is from your own noggin?

Has been trialed in many countries, however the (very small) temporary and limited trials are totally unreflective measurements of such an en masse type program.

Yang ran his POTUS20 campaign upon UBI (he called it the FreedomDividend) he did fairly well to make it into the last 10 or so. Simply a matter of time before it arrives.

There are only two downsides, but they can be be technically controlled.

Everything else is an upside, it would result in such economic prosperity levels never witnessed before, if a permanent feature.

carltonleon

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I tried to boil mine just now it melted

:D:):)

Fia11

Mr Velo wrote: »

Apple Cork employee case confirmed... https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/apple-employee-at-cork-campus-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-39032207.html

Yet the offices are still full and no one working from home. 'Deep cleaning' my hole. Send them home!

Tacitus Kilgore

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I tried to boil mine just now it melted

Sorry! Prob should have said steel cutlery.

Graces7

Xertz wrote: »

It's actually the former St. Mary's Orthopaedic Hospital, which transferred its elective hip/knee and other surgeries to a new facility constructed at the South Infirmary in the City Centre back in 2008.

It was a pretty big and busy orthopaedic centre until then and actually carried out Ireland's first hip replacement in 1970. So, I would assume it still has a lot of hospital infrastructure that could potentially be put back into service.

I don't know if there many other significant mothballed facilities in the HSE. Often, when those facilities are closed, there's really no market for some of them, so they just remain in the HSE estates and get used for other purposes.

That campus has been used since as a injuries unit / rapid access alternative to going to one of the cities acute A&Es since then and also hosts various different community care services and so on.


Interestingly, it actually opened in 1955 as an infection control unit "fever hospital". So, this is actually pretty much putting it back into its original use.

Yes indeed and you have much more info than was given on the news item; thank you. It looked very big which is going to be needed ; All they said was mental health resource? And currently closed

nthclare

Mr.S wrote: »

Ours have it “easy” as everyone has laptops and most people work a couple of days from home so there’s no real change.

Id say a lot of employers will be playing serious catchup with working from home setups.

There's a double edged sword here, you'll get the usual suspects heading to the local promenade and walking the beaches and getting their regular work done on time.

If you're well able to get an optimum word per minute on the keyboard you're doing well.
But if you're a slow typer and a dreamer it's not going to be fun that's for sure.

facehugger99

Fia11 wrote: »

Yet the offices are still full and no one working from home. 'Deep cleaning' my hole. Send them home!

You're deep cleaning your hole?

carltonleon

Midnight Sundance wrote: »

Hes no muscle aches,cough , fever, etc thankfully. Well keep an eye on him but pretty certain it's a runny nose the Same as baby, n reckon his sore throat is from the snoring hes suddenly become fond of lol

the chap on Claire Byrne Live last night who contracted Covid 19 only had 1 symptom which was fever, he did not have a cough etc...

SafeSurfer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hopefully the (belated) realism from the government yesterday jolted the majority out of their complacency over this. The virologists and epidemiologists are relentlessy hammering this message home: its only the population themselves by behaviour modification can stop this. Its doesn't take much sometimes to alter an exponential trend. Washing hands properly can cut virus spread by up to 54%. Throw in social distancing as well and the risk is cut further. If a majority heed this advice the total number of cases CAN be cut drastically.

The government coming out with worst case scenario figures is likely to be a strategy to paint the less than worst case scenario as a win for government policy. If it encourages people to be extra vigilant with hygiene all the better.

gabeeg

Ariah Happy Rooster wrote: »

Has been trialed in many countries, however the (very small) temporary and limited trials are totally unreflective measurements of such an en masse type program.

Yang ran his POTUS20 campaign upon UBI (he called it the FreedomDividend) he did fairly well to make it into the last 10 or so. Simply a matter of time before it arrives.

There are only two downsides, but they can be be technically controlled.

Everything else is an upside, it would result in such economic prosperity levels never witnessed before, if a permanent feature.

I'm not quite as convinced as yourself on UBI, but it's a very interesting concept.

If this drags on for months and months, there's going to have to be some sort of massive welfare rollout. Why not UBI?

Fia11

facehugger99 wrote: »

You're deep cleaning your hole?

Attempts are being made.

caveat emptor

caveat emptor wrote: »

Just shows lower classes will be affected most. :eek:

Do you know how many Irish businesses and some multinationals here use RA for their staff travel in the E.U. it won't just be the lower classes as you describe them.

People in lower paid jobs may be hit more due to the fact that they can't work from home due to the type of work, employers not allowing them where possible.

The fact that the broadband infrastructure doesn't exist for some people also means working from home isn't an option.