Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

murphaph

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Cheltenham starting today. 15,000 Irish people expected to make the journey over. I hope I'm wrong, but I reckon the UK Government will get hammered in two weeks time for allowing it to proceed.

Yep. The festival itself is not the risk (outdoor, good separation at a racecourse) but the socialising afterwards in the evenings are.

Drumpot

viewfromtheuk wrote: »

https://imgur.com/a/XZXy0C9
Don't know if its another bus or one of the two from yesterday

Can you not just sterilise a bus? Maybe they have to shut it down until it gets a proper scrub.

gabeeg

quokula wrote: »

Yep as seen in Asia, every country that's reached an advanced stage has seen it peak, and start to reduce, long before it gets close to infecting 0.1% of the population. The reports that it's going to infect 60%+ are wildly out of line with the data to date. It's only exponential until it's not.

From the Guardian this morning:



Italy will have peaked and started dropping soon, just like every other hard hit country so far.

That is wildly off the mark

You could not be more wrong

PhiloCypher

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The right way?

How, why, what?

Outside of China they are the most proactive with testing. They have set up drive through test labs. 35 is fewer new cases then the day before which is a positive trend relatively speaking.

gabeeg

Drumpot wrote: »

Can you not just sterilise a bus? Maybe they have to shut it down until it gets a proper scrub.

They're going to shoot it and dump it in a mass grave

wakka12

quokula wrote: »

Yep as seen in Asia, every country that's reached an advanced stage has seen it peak, and start to reduce, long before it gets close to infecting 0.1% of the population. The reports that it's going to infect 60%+ are wildly out of line with the data to date. It's only exponential until it's not.

From the Guardian this morning:



Italy will have peaked and started dropping soon, just like every other hard hit country so far.

Not a large sample is it? China, which ended normal life for months in order to stop it and then South Korea, half of whom had cases directly related to a cult..and so was much easier contain than community transmission. Italy and Iran are the only other two'hard hit' places and so far show no sign of slowing

Rob A. Bank

brevity wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/worker-at-apples-european-hq-in-cork-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-986953.html

Worker at Apple in Cork tests positive...

Apple is a huge employer in Cork... I hope the contact tracing is successful and complete.

Otherwise BIG trouble ahead in Cork

Mic 1972

quokula wrote: »

Yep as seen in Asia, every country that's reached an advanced stage has seen it peak, and start to reduce, long before it gets close to infecting 0.1% of the population. The reports that it's going to infect 60%+ are wildly out of line with the data to date. It's only exponential until it's not.

From the Guardian this morning:



Italy will have peaked and started dropping soon, just like every other hard hit country so far.

italy Codogno has been in lock down for almost 2 weeks now, that's how they reduced the number of new infected. Without lock down there is not a chance

niallo27

quokula wrote: »

Yep as seen in Asia, every country that's reached an advanced stage has seen it peak, and start to reduce, long before it gets close to infecting 0.1% of the population. The reports that it's going to infect 60%+ are wildly out of line with the data to date. It's only exponential until it's not.

From the Guardian this morning:



Italy will have peaked and started dropping soon, just like every other hard hit country so far.

Hopefully this will play out like this. Nice to have some bit of optimism in here for a change.

flynnlives

Mortgages suspended in italy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-economy-mortgage-payments-symptoms-lockdown-latest-a9389486.html

If this happens here im not paying my rent. Why should i?

gabeeg

niallo27 wrote: »

Hopefully this will play out like this. Nice to have some bit of optimism in here for a change.

There's likely millions infected in Iran

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/irans-coronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/

caff

murphaph wrote: »

Yep. The festival itself is not the risk (outdoor, good separation at a racecourse) but the socialising afterwards in the evenings are.

Separation??? I've been to Cheltenham festival there is no separation you're jammed in elbow to elbow

mloc123

quokula wrote: »

Yep as seen in Asia, every country that's reached an advanced stage has seen it peak, and start to reduce, long before it gets close to infecting 0.1% of the population. The reports that it's going to infect 60%+ are wildly out of line with the data to date. It's only exponential until it's not.

From the Guardian this morning:



Italy will have peaked and started dropping soon, just like every other hard hit country so far.

Based on China and SK it looks like 2-3 weeks from the initial start to peak and then drop.. interesting to see if Italy follows the same over the next week.

Fr_Dougal

There was panic buying in the supermarket I visited this morning. Trollies of water, toilet paper, and noodles.

Some people must think they’re preparing for snow and a drought.

Monkeynut

murphaph wrote: »

Yep. The festival itself is not the risk (outdoor, good separation at a racecourse) but the socialising afterwards in the evenings are.

I was thinking about all the money being moved from one hand to another.

tobefrank321

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Cheltenham starting today. 15,000 Irish people expected to make the journey over. I hope I'm wrong, but I reckon the UK Government will get hammered in two weeks time for allowing it to proceed.

It will be interesting to see if there is a spike in cases in the Cheltenham area after it.

Bookies and those working the tote, and also the bars could be high risk areas due to huge turnover of cash.

Something tells me many of the same people who go on skiing holidays also go to Cheltenham. Many were probably also in Northern Italy recently.

s7ryf3925pivug

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There was panic buying in the supermarket I visited this morning. Trollies of water, toilet paper, and noodles.

Some people must think they’re preparing for snow and a drought.

Preparing to avoid having to visit the supermarket for as long as possible.
Online shopping delivery slots already have a backlog.

Rob A. Bank

murphaph wrote: »

Yep. The festival itself is not the risk (outdoor, good separation at a racecourse) but the socialising afterwards in the evenings are.

Are there any figures anywhere about outdoors being safer ?

The Asian countries seem to be spending a lot of time spraying public places !

Sigma101

facehugger99 wrote: »

The UKs Deputy Chief Medical Officer has noted that cancelling large outdoor events will have fcuk all effect on the spread of the coronavirus, noting that most outdoor events will be quite safe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51812326

Nice to see a bit of non-hysterical reporting.

No doubt the armchair experts of Boards know better though.

I think that misses the point. 15,000 Irish people will travel by plane, stay on hotels, and cram into pubs and restuarants in a town where first cases of community transmission are now being recorded.
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/cheltenham-case-coronavirus-contracted-within-3930983

wanderer 22

RCSI library have created a guide with links to some reputable sources on Covid-19; may be of interest to some:

https://libguides.rcsi.ie/covid19/introduction

Funsterdelux

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There was panic buying in the supermarket I visited this morning. Trollies of water, toilet paper, and noodles.

Some people must think they’re preparing for snow and a drought.

You wont be laughing when the virus goes for a swim in the water supply

cmac2009

flynnlives wrote: »

Mortgages suspended in italy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-economy-mortgage-payments-symptoms-lockdown-latest-a9389486.html

If this happens here im not paying my rent. Why should i?

Payment's have been suspended - it's not as if a series of repayments have been cancelled. They'll still have to repay that amount at a later date.

Gods Gift

No one bother to ask the horses if they wanted to go.


Yay or neigh?

niallo27

gabeeg wrote: »

There's likely millions infected in Iran

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/irans-coronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/

I understand the figures are worse than stated but going from 5k to saying millions are infected is just plain wrong. If your talking about 7 or 8 weeks time then maybe but if your talking about right now then no your wrong.

flynnlives

cmac2009 wrote: »

Payment's have been suspended - it's not as if a series of repayments have been cancelled. They'll still have to repay that amount at a later date.

but there interest payments will remain the same. Its essentially a free break.

Will renters get the same treatment?

nthclare

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

You`re not wrong. Same as allowing football and rugby matches etc to carry on as normal with only token restrictions in place. But then Boris and his buddies have been getting hammered for a long time now and it hasn`t bothered them too much. Hopefully this time they will get the message from the ****storm that is coming their way.

No doubt the establishment would have no problem banning a horse fair like the Spancil Hill gathering or something similar.

Send in the Oirich they cost nothing.

A week at the horses in exchange for a few weeks of quarantine sounds like a good punt.

This thing doesn't discriminate, from park bench to park avenue but if you're precautionary and more nomadic by nature you've a better chance of not getting it.

Wait until there's a lot of middle class weekend junkies not getting their banger due to a clamp down on gatherings.
Then you'll see the shaking and hopping knees in the workplace the agitation and nervous twitching etc

tobefrank321

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There was panic buying in the supermarket I visited this morning. Trollies of water, toilet paper, and noodles.

Some people must think they’re preparing for snow and a drought.

Government need to step in and limit panic buying. Its putting older vulnerable people at risk who mightn't be able to source essentials such as toilet paper.

We've really turned into an "every man for himself" society.

New Home

flynnlives wrote: »

Mortgages suspended in italy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-economy-mortgage-payments-symptoms-lockdown-latest-a9389486.html

If this happens here im not paying my rent. Why should i?

Because if they do like they did for the taxes due in the areas that were razed to the ground by the earthquakes, they'll come back in two years' time asking to be paid the arrears in one lot, with no chance of paying in installments. :rolleyes:

05eaftqbrs9jlh

brevity wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/worker-at-apples-european-hq-in-cork-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-986953.html

Worker at Apple in Cork tests positive...

"Expert" on Sean O'Rourke saying that if we had 100 - 200 cases of community transmission we would have to close schools.

There are three confirmed cases of community transmission (even though the parameters of what that actually means have been comprehensively blurred by health officials), all of the close contacts of their close contacts are being advised to go about their usual business, and now we're seeing cases like this popping up everywhere. I'm not going to pull a figure out of my hole but there are definitely more than 24 people in the Republic with coronavirus. If that 24 people each managed to infect one other person undetected, who in turn managed to infect two to three other people who are currently spreading it, you can imagine what that looks like. You can imagine what it will look like in two weeks time.


*not an accurate picture. It's just a metaphor

yourdeadwright

Does anyone know if the actually the cases in China falling or is it spread but not as quickly,
Two very different things ,