Corona virus in waterford

91wx763

Aquos76 wrote: »

Is it just me or is there a huge increase in the amount of people out and about over the last few days. I would normally head to Tesco Ardkeen on a Thursday or a Friday morning for weekly shop, I didn’t get there till yesterday afternoon this week and I was honestly shocked by how busy the place was. There were families of 2 adults and a few kids going around together, groups of teenagers with no where else to go and just to be in out of the rain. People stopping and chatting to one another in the aisles. I actually saw two lads giving each other a man hug also.

It was obvious to me that there were way to many in the store, I said it to the security guy and his response was well unless we see people going in when the stop sign is up, we can’t do nothing about it. That’s not good enough really.

Then today I was out in the butchers in lisduggan shopping centre as I do every Saturday afternoon and the shopping centre was much much busier than normal. What stood out to me what I saw a group of 4 people, not teenagers either, drink coffee and leaning up against that sweet/bubblegum area having the chats, and all 4 of them had their masks down under their chins too.

I get that people are really getting frustrated and everyone is just trying to get out for a break, it really is hard for some people, but I honestly don’t think full families should be going shopping together or in to have a stroll around dealz or Mr Price. We have done well here in Waterford from where the numbers were, but they are still higher that what we probably should be at. We can’t about to start going backwards again.

Your eyes are deceiving you if you go by what people on here think. They'll be along shortly to beat your observations down.

Shur people need to be (and going on some opinions should be !) out and about like it was 2019 irrespective of the restrictions or of the greater and longer term good of society.

smellyoldboot

Aquos76 wrote: »

Is it just me or is there a huge increase in the amount of people out and about over the last few days. I would normally head to Tesco Ardkeen on a Thursday or a Friday morning for weekly shop, I didn’t get there till yesterday afternoon this week and I was honestly shocked by how busy the place was. There were families of 2 adults and a few kids going around together, groups of teenagers with no where else to go and just to be in out of the rain. People stopping and chatting to one another in the aisles. I actually saw two lads giving each other a man hug also.

It was obvious to me that there were way to many in the store, I said it to the security guy and his response was well unless we see people going in when the stop sign is up, we can’t do nothing about it. That’s not good enough really.

Then today I was out in the butchers in lisduggan shopping centre as I do every Saturday afternoon and the shopping centre was much much busier than normal. What stood out to me what I saw a group of 4 people, not teenagers either, drink coffee and leaning up against that sweet/bubblegum area having the chats, and all 4 of them had their masks down under their chins too.

I get that people are really getting frustrated and everyone is just trying to get out for a break, it really is hard for some people, but I honestly don’t think full families should be going shopping together or in to have a stroll around dealz or Mr Price. We have done well here in Waterford from where the numbers were, but they are still higher that what we probably should be at. We can’t about to start going backwards again.

Some spots are always just a nightmare. Went out to Tesco Ardkeen yesterday for something, saw the queue outside the shop and got back in the car and drove to Tesco Ballybeg instead which was half empty as always.

Oscar Madison

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Rightly or wrongly, people have enough of following all these rules. There is only so long you can expect people to comply with very serious and impacting restrictions like not socialising, not leaving your county and not meeting elderly parents or friends. Especially with the news that hospitality may not open until July or August.

People have absolutely nothing to look forward to and for some, being in the house all day exacerbates an unhappy marriage or domestic violence or plain old contempt from seeing the same faces day in day out. People are fed up and emotionally drained. There is no carrot, only a stick of restrictions,restrictions and more restrictions. I personally think the nation is about to hit maximum patience and after that, complacency will really set in.

The undertakers are smiling all the way to the bank!

If you want to become just another stastisic well good luck and bon voyage, I most certainly don't.

I'm after hearing today of a few I know who developed Covid 19. One is in a bad way at Limerick Hospital.

Aquos76

The Continental Op wrote: »

You can't go by yesterday it was pissing it down all day probably the reason you didn't get there till the afternoon. Again today this morning's weather was dreadful. Then when they have been stuck in all day parents tend to take the kids with them when they go shopping.

If you don't want to see anyone go out when its blowing a gale and pissing it down.

You’re right about the weather, that’s why I was asking if others had noticed anything similar. Regarding parents taking kids shopping, I understand some parents may have to and don’t have any issue with that, but two parents and kids, that shouldn’t be happening. My wife hasn’t seen the inside of a supermarket with me in 12 months, and if my daughter wants to go to Mr Price or somewhere similar I’d bring her in the evening when’s it’s much quieter. People should really be trying to continue doing the likes of shopping on their own in my opinion.

It just feels like people are starting to leave there guard down now. I was talking to a friend who went into a garage twice this week, Tuesday and Wednesday I think it was. There was no sanitizer in the two bottles at the entrance on both days, when he said it to the shop assistant, they told him that they ran out on Sunday and were waiting for more to come in, so if that’s anything to go on, then it won’t be long before things begin to escalate again.

SweetCaliber

Aquos76 wrote: »

You’re right about the weather, that’s why I was asking if others had noticed anything similar. Regarding parents taking kids shopping, I understand some parents may have to and don’t have any issue with that, but two parents and kids, that shouldn’t be happening. My wife hasn’t seen the inside of a supermarket with me in 12 months, and if my daughter wants to go to Mr Price or somewhere similar I’d bring her in the evening when’s it’s much quieter. People should really be trying to continue doing the likes of shopping on their own in my opinion.

It just feels like people are starting to leave there guard down now. I was talking to a friend who went into a garage twice this week, Tuesday and Wednesday I think it was. There was no sanitizer in the two bottles at the entrance on both days, when he said it to the shop assistant, they told him that they ran out on Sunday and were waiting for more to come in, so if that’s anything to go on, then it won’t be long before things begin to escalate again.

I work in a supermarket in town and can confirm people have gone past the point of being complacent. Anyone I've been talking to while working have said they've had enough. Plenty of families doing shopping, groups of teens, plenty of people talking in the aisles not bothering to move for others.

Noticed a family come in earlier, mother, grandmother, father, 4 kids and 2 teens all to the one trolley.

I feel restricting us to 5km until summer is actually going to do worse than better. I think restricting to counties should be put in place, give people a chance to get out with the better weather and longer days coming, peoples mental health is really starting to crumble.

The Continental Op

Aquos76 wrote: »

You’re right about the weather, that’s why I was asking if others had noticed anything similar. Regarding parents taking kids shopping, I understand some parents may have to and don’t have any issue with that, but two parents and kids, that shouldn’t be happening. My wife hasn’t seen the inside of a supermarket with me in 12 months, and if my daughter wants to go to Mr Price or somewhere similar I’d bring her in the evening when’s it’s much quieter. People should really be trying to continue doing the likes of shopping on their own in my opinion.

It just feels like people are starting to leave there guard down now. I was talking to a friend who went into a garage twice this week, Tuesday and Wednesday I think it was. There was no sanitizer in the two bottles at the entrance on both days, when he said it to the shop assistant, they told him that they ran out on Sunday and were waiting for more to come in, so if that’s anything to go on, then it won’t be long before things begin to escalate again.

My wife shops on Friday - can't stop her - but I keep saying she should go on Monday or Tuesday in the morning when I know the shops are normally empty. I know she went in at about 4pm last Friday because of the rain and came back saying how mad busy everywhere was (Dungarvan).

Mostly its the usual crowd that are in town stood talking to each other, most have been at it for so long you'd have thought they'd have run out of things to say by now.

Aquos76

SweetCaliber wrote: »

I feel restricting us to 5km until summer is actually going to do worse than better. I think restricting to counties should be put in place, give people a chance to get out with the better weather and longer days coming, peoples mental health is really starting to crumble.

You are dead right, the 5km is definitely taking its toll on those of us who have being adhering to it. I definitely see merits in moving it to county, but then everyone will just rush to the same places instead of being imaginative and going to somewhere that is going to be less busier.

I see there has been another 988 additional cases reported this evening, 26 deaths, RIP, and 26 new cases in Waterford.

mooseknunkle

Aquos76 wrote: »

You are dead right, the 5km is definitely taking its toll on those of us who have being adhering to it. I definitely see merits in moving it to county, but then everyone will just rush to the same places instead of being imaginative and going to somewhere that is going to be less busier.

I see there has been another 988 additional cases reported this evening, 26 deaths, RIP, and 26 new cases in Waterford.

If i recall i remember you saying you live in Ferrybank?,yet you do your weekly shop in Tesco Ardkeen ,that's well outside your 5km limit when there is plenty of supermarkets within 5km of Ferrybank,so really you are not adhering to the limit.

You are complaining about too many out and about when you are doing your shopping in one Tesco then driving to another to get meat when you could do all your shopping in Lisduggan while getting your meat.

killbillvol2

mooseknunkle wrote: »

If i recall i remember you saying you live in Ferrybank?,yet you do your weekly shop in Tesco Ardkeen ,that's well outside your 5km limit when there is plenty of supermarkets within 5km of Ferrybank,so really you are not adhering to the limit.

You are complaining about too many out and about when you are doing your shopping in one Tesco then driving to another to get meat when you could do all your shopping in Lisduggan while getting your meat.

Jesus Christ.

mooseknunkle

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

What?

The Continental Op

I know people that live in Dungarvan and surrounding area that do there shopping in Tesco Ardkeen and Lidl and Aldi there, thing is they work in the Hospital.

So its one shopping area I wouldn't questions peoples reason for being there.

Wanderer78

Aquos76 wrote: »

You are dead right, the 5km is definitely taking its toll on those of us who have being adhering to it. I definitely see merits in moving it to county, but then everyone will just rush to the same places instead of being imaginative and going to somewhere that is going to be less busier.

I see there has been another 988 additional cases reported this evening, 26 deaths, RIP, and 26 new cases in Waterford.

im sure im not the only one that has broken the distance restriction a number of times, break it if you need to, particularly if its for your mental well being, but be careful, and accept the potential consequences

Aquos76

mooseknunkle wrote: »

If i recall i remember you saying you live in Ferrybank?,yet you do your weekly shop in Tesco Ardkeen ,that's well outside your 5km limit when there is plenty of supermarkets within 5km of Ferrybank,so really you are not adhering to the limit.

You are complaining about too many out and about when you are doing your shopping in one Tesco then driving to another to get meat when you could do all your shopping in Lisduggan while getting your meat.

Christ almighty, what planet are you living on. I work 18km from my home, so should I not go to work either. People are allowed to travel outside 5km for a number of things, and essential shopping is one of those. You need to get off that high horse you are on.

Also, when I am out and about I am on my own. People all have different preferences of where they like to shop whether it’s for groceries or for meat. No where does it state you must go to your nearest shop.

Aquos76

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im sure im not the only one that has broken the distance restriction a number of times, break it if you need to, particularly if its for your mental well being, but be careful, and accept the potential consequences

I wasn’t having a dig at you personally in that post, you aren’t alone and people will continue to do it.

mooseknunkle

Aquos76 wrote: »

Christ almighty, what planet are you living on. I work 18km from my home, so should I not go to work either. People are allowed to travel outside 5km for a number of things, and essential shopping is one of those. You need to get off that high horse you are on.

Your the one on the high horse trying to take the moral high ground saying you are adhering to the restrictions when you are not,complaining about others being the problem when you are the problem :rolleyes:

You can do your essential shopping within your 5km that's my point.

deisemum

mooseknunkle wrote: »

If i recall i remember you saying you live in Ferrybank?,yet you do your weekly shop in Tesco Ardkeen ,that's well outside your 5km limit when there is plenty of supermarkets within 5km of Ferrybank,so really you are not adhering to the limit.

You are complaining about too many out and about when you are doing your shopping in one Tesco then driving to another to get meat when you could do all your shopping in Lisduggan while getting your meat.

Tesco Ardkeen and Lisduggan shopping centre are easily within 5kms from Ferrybank on the 5km from here map.

SweetCaliber

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Your the one on the high horse trying to take the moral high ground saying you are adhering to the restrictions when you are not,complaining about others being the problem when you are the problem :rolleyes:

You can do your essential shopping within your 5km that's my point.

5km is for exercise not for shopping, so Aquos is still adhering to the restrictions. There is a number of reasons why I would shop in Tesco Ardkeen over lisduggan also so I can see why Aquos does.

Aquos76

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Your the one on the high horse trying to take the moral high ground saying you are adhering to the restrictions when you are not,complaining about others being the problem when you are the problem :rolleyes:

You can do your essential shopping within your 5km that's my point.

Give it a rest will you, not that it’s any of your business but I work 18km from my home, I do my shopping on my way home from work. I never mentioned anything about anyone going outside their 5km for shopping or for any other essential reason. I don’t claim to be perfect but I haven’t gotten in to my car and headed out for the sake of it. I merely commented to another user that I was doing my best to adhere to the current guidelines, and like many others are starting to find it hard. You are trying to turn this is to something that it’s not. I’m done now with this back and forth.

Wanderer2010

There seems to be two viewpoints on the high numbers lately. Those who, naively in my view, are genuinely surprised that a lot of people are now getting very tired of these rules and are slacking off on masks, social distancing and hugging others etc. All to improve their mental health. Maybe those who express surprise are from happy families and love their partners and kids and have no experience of anything else.
Then the second view of ah to hell with it, we have nothing to look foward to, im doing what i want with my life.
Its not a case of you shouldnt be doing this and you should be doing that. You have to appreciate that both viewpoints exist, whether you agree with them or not.

mooseknunkle

Aquos76 wrote: »

Give it a rest will you, not that it’s any of your business but I work 18km from my home, I do my shopping on my way home from work. I never mentioned anything about anyone going outside their 5km for shopping or for any other essential reason. I don’t claim to be perfect but I haven’t gotten in to my car and headed out for the sake of it. I merely commented to another user that I was doing my best to adhere to the current guidelines, and like many others are starting to find it hard. You are trying to turn this is to something that it’s not. I’m done now with this back and forth.

You said you were adhering to the restrictions now you say you are doing your best to adhere to them so which is it ,don't be coming on here trying to sound like you are the perfect citizen doing everything that is asked of you when you are just like the rest of us,i've never adhered to any of the travel restrictions in any of the lockdowns and i've no problem saying that.

Its hard for everyone but the tide is turning and the curtain twitchers and lockdown merchants are thankfully in the minority now,if people like yourself are so worried just hide under your bed and never come out again and leave the rest of us to get on with our lives.

Aquos76

For those wondering what your are allowed to travel outside your 5km for



I never claimed to be adhering to all restrictions, but I am not going beyond our 5km just for the sake of it, that’s my point and that was the point I was making in the post you’ve clearly taken offence with.

mooseknunkle

Aquos76 wrote: »

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I never claimed to be adhering to all restrictions, but I am not going beyond our 5km just for the sake of it, that’s my point and that was the point I was making in the post you’ve clearly taken offence with.

I didn't take any offence im just sick of people on here like yourself complaining about others going about their day, imagine complaining to a security guard in Tesco that there's too many people in there!,is this what we've become?,Ireland is screwed for god knows how many years and covid is the least of our worries.

91wx763

mooseknunkle wrote: »

I didn't take any offence im just sick of people on here like yourself complaining about others going about their day, imagine complaining to a security guard in Tesco that there's too many people in there!,is this what we've become?,Ireland is screwed for god knows how many years and covid is the least of our worries.

covid is the least of our worries

You're either on the funny fags or have been drinking Hoffmans you found in the shed that's been there since 1988.

Place is doomed if you feel that that's the case.

mooseknunkle

91wx763 wrote: »

You're either on the funny fags or have been drinking Hoffmans you found in the shed that's been there since 1988.

Place is doomed if you feel that that's the case.

I don't smoke but i would love a can of Hoffmans!,yes you are correct the place is doomed as we head into the worst recession in the history of the state,a housing crisis due to the shutdown of construction,mental health issues like we have never seen before domestic violence issues,hospital overcrowding you name it and its all to come ,but hey let's keep 460,000 people out of work and lockdown young healthy people for months on end..the cure is now worse than the disease.

spookwoman

road_high wrote: »

Why does very elderly dying anger you? Do you think we’ll live forever? The couple referenced were married for 70 years? Which means they must be at least 90- a fantastic age by any reckoning. I think people badly need to get a grip here. Going forward do you want no deaths? Or is it only Covid ones that “matter” to you?
My grandparents lived mid 70s to early 80s. We’d have loved to have them around for longer but we accepted death was part of the natural cycle of life.

Re read my post

spookwoman wrote: »

Sorry for your loss. It angers me so much when people dismiss the deaths as elderly or underlying issues because they don't want to or can't see the many people's lives are so intertwined with many others. Hard enough loosing them but it's just as hard not being able to say goodbye that people are so used to.
Once things settle down and people can gather hopefully many will be able too get together and say goodbye in a memorial service or such.

Yes elderly die but that does not mean just because they may be 70+ that their lives are any less meaningful. I regard all deaths the same way but many who are anti restrictions seem to think ah sure they died because they are elderly or have underlying conditions is a reason to open up.

road_high wrote: »

Going forward do you want no deaths? Or is it only Covid ones that “matter” to you?

Where in my post or in any of my posts have I said Covid deaths matter more to me? I'll answer that as none.
So I suggest you stop twisting what I say to suit yourself.

Harry Palmr

This thread, like all of them on this topic is now mainly bickering. Which tells us so much about our predicament and the differing approaches to it.

I'm just glad that I appear to have been bumped up the vaccination list - I and thousands of others should never have been in the 7th level cohort. That said it'll still be summer by the time I get the second jab I expect.

killbillvol2

mooseknunkle wrote: »

the curtain twitchers and lockdown merchants are thankfully in the minority now

I'm going to have to make the assumption that you're genuinely too stupid to get the irony.

er1983

mooseknunkle wrote: »

If i recall i remember you saying you live in Ferrybank?,yet you do your weekly shop in Tesco Ardkeen ,that's well outside your 5km limit when there is plenty of supermarkets within 5km of Ferrybank,so really you are not adhering to the limit.

You are complaining about too many out and about when you are doing your shopping in one Tesco then driving to another to get meat when you could do all your shopping in Lisduggan while getting your meat.

Are you serious?
There are exceptions to 5km rule, one being going to get your groceries

Wanderer78

mooseknunkle wrote:

I don't smoke but i would love a can of Hoffmans!,yes you are correct the place is doomed as we head into the worst recession in the history of the state,a housing crisis due to the shutdown of construction,mental health issues like we have never seen before domestic violence issues,hospital overcrowding you name it and its all to come ,but hey let's keep 460,000 people out of work and lockdown young healthy people for months on end..the cure is now worse than the disease.

So young healthy people should be sent out to work, in the hope they don't become young unhealthy people, I wonder where unhealthy people go to?

Flow Motion

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This thread, like all of them on this topic is now mainly bickering. Which tells us so much about our predicament

This day last year the topic of Covid only got a brief mention in the papers; an article about China and people stuck on a cruise ship in Japan. Escalated pretty quick and within a month we were in Lockdown # 1.
People approached L1 with genuine fear of the unknown and solidarity. The good weather of last Spring eased the journey. Then the wheels began to come off during the Summer. Can't really apportion blame to any one thing as it's become an ever changing perfect storm of things. Change of Government, poor communication, overseas travel and green lists, the use of masks only became widespread by late summer, meals in pubs, Golfgate, lockdown mark 2, reopen for Christmas, the importation of the UK Kent variant, socialising, the devastating third wave, huge number of deaths in January, dull grey wet miserable weather, the 5km limit, fines and the a new variant from Brazil! (To name but a few!!)
As we approach the first anniversary of this upheaval in all our lives it seems that the strain and stress has begun to multiply in the population. Mental health is becoming more of an issue at all ages. The Government are flying kites about holding firm till May. In truth they cannot predict what might occur in the interim. It will be interesting to see the effect of the gradual reintroduction of schools. Will the new dominant UK variant raise the numbers?
The only thing that would bother me is if (as it seems to be the case) the 5km travel limit is retained till May. Does walking on the beach in Tramore or wherever really increase the risk?