What have we come to

Billcarson

bubblypop wrote: »

Clearly you or any if your family weren't victims of the IRA, don't think you would feel the same.

Like he said time to move the **** on

Ulysses Gaze

Billcarson wrote: »

Like he said time to move the **** on

Can we move on from eulogising Bobby Sands then?

After all, it's been 39 years....

Billcarson

Billcarson wrote: »

Like he said time to move the **** on

Not for anyone who was a victim it's not.

ShoulderChip

Do people see them as a true left wing party, or a far right party in disguise?
Do people really think they will stand up for migrants over white Irish?

Eric Cartman

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Do people see them as a true left wing party, or a far right party in disguise?
Do people really think they will stand up for migrants over white Irish?

the shinners, I reckon theyd try dismantle the SCC and go back to being anti-EU but they have their left wing backers now so will continue a 'brown people first' and 'abortions for all' agenda.

thequarefellow

Always Tired wrote: »

They only want one thing. To keep their noses in the trough. They'll flip flop any which way to do that. It's no surprise. They shouldn't even have the chance at being in government after what they did to the people of Ireland, they should be nothing but a very distant memory. They're playing with house money at this point. If things go well they can take credit and if not they can blame FG and SF.

It's quite amazing looking at his turnaround considering his vehement stance on not going into government with SF just 48 hrs ago.

Just imagine him as Taoiseach with his number two MLMD standing next to him:) It's priceless

Hego Damask

Why do people think SF are a good deal ?
You don't think they will tax the f*ck out of the working man to pay for their benefits/free houses/open borders promise ?

That **** will cost money - lots of money. SF could be as bad as the greens when it comes to stealing your money.

Ulysses Gaze

Hego Damask wrote: »

Why do people think SF are a good deal ?
You don't think they will tax the f*ck out of the working man to pay for their benefits/free houses/open borders promise ?

That **** will cost money - lots of money. SF could be as bad as the greens when it comes to stealing your money.

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

RandomName2

NIMAN wrote: »

I have no great allegiance to SF, but can I ask you is there a time limit in your head when IRA atrocities are allowed to be forgotten about when a general election is on and SF are getting votes?

It would genuinely help if they didn't

• Have ex-IRA members as candidates
• Excuse the actions of the IRA
• Still have communication with republican terrorists today
• Still have nationalism and opposition to the UK as their dog whistles

NIMAN wrote: »

These 2 innocent kids who you pictured who died, should they be brought up in another 10 years, 20 years, 50 years?

While there are wrongs to be righted.

Isn't that what every moral person would feel? Well, apart from the slippery shills for Sinn Fein that say that it is faux outrage in order to silence their detractors. Oh how they must wish they could permanently silence their families. They did a decent job with the McCartney sisters in fairness though. That family was shocked by their treatment as they had been loyal Sinn Fein voters before their brother's murder. I don't know why they were surprised, didn't they know what Sinn Fein was like before that?

ShoulderChip

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

And the brain drain continues...

maccored

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

how do you figure that out?

Eric Cartman

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

every party was gunning to screw those people worse than a gangbang porno anyway.

RandomName2

Billcarson wrote: »

Like he said time to move the **** on

And there you go folks.

It's just murder guys, give it a breaaaak. Somebody should tell that to families of victims of Bloody Sunday 'time to move the f*ck on'.

While I have zero time for the party he represents, just imagine telling John Finucane to get over the murder of his father, or saying that he was using faux outrage in his election.

ffs cop onto yourself.

Breakerz

Breakerz wrote: »

You're looking down on others for not voting for the status quo. The troubles are over. In a generation or two there won't be a FG or FF. Voting for the same parties over and over again and expecting change is incredibly stupid. People are starting to wake up.

Vote for the ****ing Greens then. At least they don't have a private army and don't run criminal enterprises.

US2

Those tears taste salty hahaha

tayto lover

Hego Damask wrote: »

Why do people think SF are a good deal ?
You don't think they will tax the f*ck out of the working man to pay for their benefits/free houses/open borders promise ?

That **** will cost money - lots of money. SF could be as bad as the greens when it comes to stealing your money.

That’s my worry too.
Did we just jump from the frying pan into the fire? Hope not.

Interesting times ahead if they get into power. Someone has already likened it to 1977 when FF promised the sun, moon and stars.

Sandor Clegane

What ever happens Im enjoying watching FG and FF supporters squirm.

This is all self inflicted, FF and FG have to take a long hard look at themselves and ask why people felt the need to turn to SF.

Blaze420

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

Yeah I mean how dare those people work hard to earn that amount the absolute bastards - they’ll be sorry now though because the wasters have to be given free houses!!

tayto lover

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

What ever happens Im enjoying watching FG and FF supporters squirm.

This is all self inflicted, FF and FG have to take a long hard look at themselves and ask why people felt the need to turn to SF.

I think people are not too worried about FG or FF.
They’re worried about themselves, especially the workers.

shesty

maccored wrote: »

how do you figure that out?

Because SF view anyone earning over 35k as 'high income earners'....ie the people they aim increase taxes on to pay for all their grand plans.

Elessar

Elessar wrote: »

I'm thinking this might actually be a good thing, longer term.

SF are a populist nonsense party and Mary Lou knows she cannot deliver on any of her promises. Get them into power, watch them be forced to make the tough choices that will alienate their demographic and then watch them get absolutely hammered for it.

This election could actually signal the end for SF long term.

That's what the Germans thought about the Nazis. Turned out once they got into power it wasn't so easy to get them out again.

RandomName2

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

What ever happens Im enjoying watching FG and FF supporters squirm.

This is all self inflicted, FF and FG have to take a long hard look at themselves and ask why people felt the need to turn to SF.

History is full of corrupt, incompetent politicians and monarchs being overthrown by populists that promise the earth and make everyone worse off than they were before.

tayto lover wrote: »

I think people are not too worried about FG or FF.
They’re worried about themselves, especially the workers.

I'm concerned about SF's plan to give itself a permanent dominant political position by dismantling the border, by its plans to ride the multinationals into the dirt, by its pursuit of nationalism for the sake of nationalism, for its inflated social spending coupled with diminished tax revenue, for its lack of objectivity in foreign relations (particularly in relation to Brexit).

The things we need fixed are hospitals, homes, and transport. I don't think they have the competence to achieve this (although honestly I couldn't name any party that I think could). At least other parties have experience other than running a country at a loss (when I say running, I mean when they aren't refusing to form a government because they are prioritizing the Irish language above literally everything else)

screamer

More morally bankrupt choices from the electorate. Pick the morally bankrupt choice and that’s what’ll be voted in.
I always thought Irish people were gullible, now I know for sure. The haves- have a mortgage, have bills to pay, have to work to feed their family, will have even less so that the have nots- have not to work to feed their family, have not a mortgage but a free house, have not to work will have even more. Morally bankrupt, now where’s my passport.....

McMurphy

billyhead wrote: »

Sinn Fein topping the polls in many constituencies. I believe in democracy but too vote this crowd in as your number 1

OPs username checks out.

Ulysses Gaze

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Anyone earning over €40k is in for a rude awakening.

Constidering a family with 2 kids renting is financially better off unemployed than working for 40k I predict a lot of people giving up working after they are hammered for even more taxes to give to the work shy. 19% of single households here on disability, highest In Europe.

Montage of Feck

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I hope not, hopefully MM wont do a deal with the devil

Oh come on now, MM would sell his mother to the dark lord to become Taoiseach.

Idbatterim

Deleted User wrote: »

Constidering a family with 2 kids renting is financially better off unemployed than working for 40k I predict a lot of people giving up working after they are hammered for even more taxes to give to the work shy. 19% of single households here on disability, highest In Europe.

You’d qualify for disability here by going into a gp with a common cold!

Sandor Clegane

RandomName2 wrote: »

History is full of corrupt, incompetent politicians and monarchs being overthrown by populists that promise the earth and make everyone worse off than they were before.




I'm concerned about SF's plan to give itself a permanent dominant political position by dismantling the border, by its plans to ride the multinationals into the dirt, by its pursuit of nationalism for the sake of nationalism, for its inflated social spending coupled with diminished tax revenue, for its lack of objectivity in foreign relations (particularly in relation to Brexit).

The things we need fixed are hospitals, homes, and transport. I don't think they have the competence to achieve this (although honestly I couldn't name any party that I think could). At least other parties have experience other than running a country at a loss (when I say running, I mean when they aren't refusing to form a government because they are prioritizing the Irish language above literally everything else)

FG and FF were to arrogant to believe they could be outed, they thought they could continue on forever lining their own pockets and serving themselves, this is a wake up call.

caff

Idbatterim wrote: »

You’d qualify for disability here by going into a gp with a common cold!

Do it so if its so easy?

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

We have full employment for those who want to work.

There is a significant proportion of the population, maybe as much as 30% who are not interested in work. We have the highest percentage of such households in the EU.

That's not legal is it? To collect welfare because you don't want to work?
Are you suggesting the FG government turned a blind eye or their system is flawed?
Either way good job if they get left out of government right?