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  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    I may have this incorrect, but I've just done a bit if googling re: GDP per capita.

    It appears to be way higher in the Republic than it is in Northern Ireland (where, incidentally SF are actually in power).

    Just got me thinking, if Sinn Fein did achieve their ultimate goal of a unified Ireland, how would they balance this? And would all the people who are so happy they've given their vote to a promise of loads more public spending (ha!), be happy for a hugely disproportionate amount of that public spending to go over the border?

    NI have a disproportionate public sector workforce, propped up majorly by...the UK Government - the prostitute Assembly Members only went back into power recently because of the threat that their UK pimps would withdraw funding - both DUP and SF - you couldn't make it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    con747 wrote: »
    I rise at the stroke of noon and have my brunch before my afternoon nap.

    Ur dead right , u didn’t make the rules u only abide by them -fair play to u !
    Ur clever than whole lot put together!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Strumms wrote: »
    That’s a good point, if SF were ‘having’ to be in power, ended up having to cow tow to their terrorist mates, which they would or will certainly, they could become unelectable here for decades... if they did end up in government every single move will be scrutinized, they can’t fûck up...you know they would though... they have not the experience or self discipline or the ability to say no to a certain army council.

    Dissidents are a worry. The IRA signed up to a peace agreement. Also...you ready....if there was an IRA and if SF are in.....they wouldn't be terrorists ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    I may have this incorrect, but I've just done a bit if googling re: GDP per capita.

    It appears to be way higher in the Republic than it is in Northern Ireland (where, incidentally SF are actually in power).

    Just got me thinking, if Sinn Fein did achieve their ultimate goal of a unified Ireland, how would they balance this?


    The fact that Sinn Fein haven't a breeze how they'll do this probably means nobody here will either


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Just goes to show how civic minded and noble in spirit all the Fianna Fail/Fianna Gail voters are when their go-to insult is to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being secretly unemployed. Absolutely vile.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    con747 wrote: »
    I rise at the stroke of noon and have my brunch before my afternoon nap.

    why are you dragging "theballz" down with their honest posting?

    What do you fear from someone like "theballz" and other's like them? People who can withdraw their valuable services from Ireland, in an instant - their tax, their PRSI contributions, their knowledge- and transport it into a totally different economy over night- think about that for a second, as you scratch your nether-regions and reach for your remote control to watch daytime TV.

    Because if enough "thebaliz" leave Ireland, you won't have a tin can to piss in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    A Fine Gael man? The bluster and condescension is a give away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Dissidents are a worry. The IRA signed up to a peace agreement. Also...you ready....if there was an IRA and if SF are in.....they wouldn't be terrorists ;)

    How much support would SF give to the Gardai, Army and the courts against dissidents ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,844 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.
    Bye bye Regina.

    Waves hands!!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Just goes to show how civic minded and noble in spirit all the Fianna Fail/Fianna Gail voters are when their go-to insult is to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being secretly unemployed. Absolutely vile.

    Yep. It's really stupid just to dismiss people like that. I don't like SF at all but you would be very stupid as a political party to ignore the issues which have meant this popularity.

    Also the unemployment rate is 5 per cent yet SF got about 24 percent of the vote. Obviously not all Marget cashes looking for free houses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    It appears to be way higher in the Republic than it is in Northern Ireland (where, incidentally SF are actually in power).

    Terrorists don't know how to run a country.

    You can't rob banks, run protection rackets or launder diesel to plug up the budget deficit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭con747


    why are you dragging "theballz" down with their honest posting?

    What do you fear from someone like "theballz" and other's like them? People who can withdraw their valuable services from Ireland, in an instant - their tax, their PRSI contributions, their knowledge- and transport it into a totally different economy over night- think about that for a second, as you scratch your nether-regions and reach for your remote control to watch daytime TV.

    Because if enough "thebaliz" leave Ireland, you won't have a tin can to piss in.

    And who the hell are you to say I watch daytime tv all day? You have no idea how much I contribute to the tax base of this corrupt country to see it constantly wasted.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    A Fine Gael man? The bluster and condescension is a give away.

    Well ur not a Sinn Fein man , there’s a lot of long words in that sentence for a shinner to take in ! Lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,873 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Just goes to show how civic minded and noble in spirit all the Fianna Fail/Fianna Gail voters are when their go-to insult is to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being secretly unemployed. Absolutely vile.

    Yeah it’s a bit odd , aren’t they continually banging on about “ full employment “?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    /end thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Yeah it’s a bit odd , aren’t they continually banging on about “ full employment “?!

    Full employement in this country takes into account the 4-ish% of gougers in the "workforce" that will never hold down a job other than whatever petty crime they are involved in.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    con747 wrote: »
    And who the hell are you to say I watch daytime tv all day? You have no idea how much I contribute to the tax base of this corrupt country to see it constantly wasted.

    three fiddy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,055 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Mary Lou looked radiant tonight on tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭con747


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    Full employement in this country takes into account the 4-ish% of gougers in the "workforce" that will never hold down a job other than whatever petty crime they are involved in.

    And what about the % of disabled people or mentally ill who are unable to be employed?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    why are you dragging "theballz" down with their honest posting?

    What do you fear from someone like "theballz" and other's like them? People who can withdraw their valuable services from Ireland, in an instant - their tax, their PRSI contributions, their knowledge- and transport it into a totally different economy over night- think about that for a second, as you scratch your nether-regions and reach for your remote control to watch daytime TV.

    Because if enough "thebaliz" leave Ireland, you won't have a tin can to piss in.

    Because he needs people like me to fund his public housing and to get him an extra 10er on his dole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭con747


    theballz wrote: »
    Because he needs people like me to fund his public housing and to get him an extra 10er on his dole.

    I most likely walked over people like you getting were I am I'm afraid.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Masteryos


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    You might want to cut down on the salt there, it ain't good for your health.


  • Posts: 18,962 [Deleted User]


    the top 5% of earners pay twice as much tax as the sum total of the bottom 75% of earners

    not sure how SF intend to squeeze much more out of that lemon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    con747 wrote: »
    And what about the % of disabled people or mentally ill who are unable to be employed?

    They aren't counted in the unemployment figures. Everyone knows this.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    con747 wrote: »
    And what about the % of disabled people or mentally ill who are unable to be employed?

    Most people with disabilities can be and do be employed, in my experience- "unable" is limited to a very few, taking overall stats into consideration.

    I think you're now disrespecting people with disabilities, but that doesn't really surprise me, coming from a day-time TV aficionado.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I know people i work with who voted SF. My sister is an engineer and voted SF. My da i also suspect, he's on a giant pension.

    It's not just dole heads. Or they only would have five or six per cent.

    Maths not a strong point. I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    con747 wrote: »
    I most likely walked over people like you getting were I am I'm afraid.

    You probably tried to take my wallet whilst you were at it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    con747 wrote: »
    I most likely walked over people like you getting were I am I'm afraid.

    Hardly our biggest and brightest if his intellectual contribution to this thread is anything to go by.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    They aren't counted in the unemployment figures. Everyone knows this.

    Don’t try reason with uneducated people. They have no idea what they are talking about


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    glasso wrote: »
    the top 5% of earners pay twice as much tax as the sum total of the bottom 75% of earners

    not sure how SF intend to squeeze much more out of that lemon.

    These people are also the most likely to leave the country to avail of more favourable tax regimes in other jurisdictions.

    These SF morons don't understand any of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    SF 29

    Others 33


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hitchens wrote: »
    Mary Lou looked radiant tonight on tv

    She'd make a lovely "Miss Orwell Road"

    :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    Yes, because someone who's paying €2000 a month between rent/mortgage and childcare so they can commute to Dublin for hours a day for work with no end and no improvement to their lot in sight, is a greedy, leeching, generational Social Welfare alchholic idiot who just wants some of Sinn Fein's magic money tree so they can buy more Jack Daniels with it.

    It is exactly this kind of attitude that has led to people voting for Sinn Fein in droves, despite all the things the Provos and dissident Republicans, that can't be fully decoupled from Sinn Fein, have done. And as long as enough of you think like this, enough you cannot see the inequality in this country and think that everyone has it fine just because you do, nothing will change with the establishment parties. And FG/FF will continue to fall down the drain until they have to pack in the Civil War politics and become the one party in the hope of clinging onto power for another couple of decades.

    And you're too stupid to see it, so you're just going to blame everyone who voted for the bad Republican monsters who hide under your bed with their Semtex, Armalites and backwards economic policies instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭con747


    Most people with disabilities can be and do be employed, in my experience- "unable" is limited to a very few, taking overall stats into consideration.

    I think you're now disrespecting people with disabilities, but that doesn't really surprise me, coming from a day-time TV aficionado.

    Amazing how a certain number of posters here assume anyone who does not agree with their ideology of politics and the fact they do not vote for the same two parties is branded unemployed and lazy and watches daytime tv. I have better things to do than suffer this biased sh-te.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    RonanG86 wrote: »
    Yes, because someone who's paying €2000 a month between rent/mortgage and childcare so they can commute to Dublin for hours a day for work with no end and no improvement to their lot sight, is a greedy, leeching, generational Social Welfare alchoholic idiot who wants some of Sinn Fein's magic money tree.

    It is exactly this kind of attitude that has led to people voting for Sinn Fein in droves, despite all the things the Provos and dissident Republicans, that can't be fully decoupled from Sinn Fein, have done. And as long as enough of you think like this, enough you cannot see the inequality in this country and think that everyone has it fine just because you do, nothing will change with the establishment parties. And FG/FF will continue to fall down the drain until they have to pack in the Civil War politics and become the one party in the hope of clinging onto power for another couple of decades.

    And you're too stupid to see it, so you're just going to blame everyone who voted for the bad Republican monsters who hide under your bed with their Semtex, Armalites and backwards economic policies instead.

    2 questions:
    1. Why have kids if you can’t afford childcare?
    2. Why work in Dublin if you have to commute for hours?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    Get a grip of yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    What is it with the west Brit contingent here that they spout the unionist narrative on the Northern Troubles. There’s lots of dead on both sides. Lots of civilians. Lots of children. I lived through them. I voted SF number 1. The Troubles are over. The Brits who murdered their way through Ireland and their unionist lackeys are getting on with their political lives. It’s 23 years since the GFA. People need to move on. The people have spoken. And the people are the only ones to listen to.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    con747 wrote: »
    Amazing how a certain number of posters here assume anyone who does not agree with their ideology of politics and the fact they do not vote for the same two parties is branded unemployed and lazy and watches daytime tv. I have better things to do than suffer this biased sh-te.

    Eh sorry now, but SF didn't post the babble that i quoted- you did- so stop blaming SF for your posts. Whatever horrors are about to unfold, thank goodness we don't have to take into account your posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    RonanG86 wrote: »
    Yes, because someone who's paying €2000 a month between rent/mortgage and childcare so they can commute to Dublin for hours a day for work with no end and no improvement to their lot in sight, is a greedy, leeching, generational Social Welfare alchoholic idiot who wants some of Sinn Fein's magic money tree.

    It is exactly this kind of attitude that has led to people voting for Sinn Fein in droves, despite all the things the Provos and dissident Republicans, that can't be fully decoupled from Sinn Fein, have done. And as long as enough of you think like this, enough you cannot see the inequality in this country and think that everyone has it fine just because you do, nothing will change with the establishment parties. And FG/FF will continue to fall down the drain until they have to pack in the Civil War politics and become the one party in the hope of clinging onto power for another couple of decades.

    And you're too stupid to see it, so you're just going to blame everyone who voted for the bad Republican monsters who hide under your bed with their Semtex, Armalites and backwards economic policies instead.

    Gotcha. They want to keep more of their high wages for fun stuff while "someone else" pays for all the boring cost-of-living stuff that comes with living in a powerhouse economy so they voted for the party that understands economics about as poorly as they do themselves.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    What is it with the west Brit contingent here that they spout the unionist narrative on the Northern Troubles. There’s lots of dead on both sides. Lots of civilians. Lots of children. I lived through them. I voted SF number 1. The Troubles are over. The Brits who murdered their way through Ireland and their unionist lackeys are getting on with their political lives. It’s 23 years since the GFA. People need to move on. The people have spoken. And the people are the only ones to listen to.

    It doesn't suit their agenda to be impartial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    You can always leave.just like we had to when your party of choice drove the economy off the cliff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    This is a dark day for this country.

    A bunch of greedy idiots voted for a party of economically illiterate terrorist sympathisers because living in one of the most prosperous countries in the world apperently isn't enough for them so they want more free **** paid for with someone elses money.

    A nation of cretins.

    You can always leave.just like we had to when your party of choice drove the economy off the cliff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    Strumms wrote: »
    There is talent within their ranks but Brendan Howlin as leader was a fûckup. I think he’s a decent enough guy, good politician but hmmmmm no real charisma, no leadership, not a personality you’d buy into, you just can’t see him leading the country. 57/160 seats filled, not a single one has gone to labour.

    Brendan Howlin and labour are the party of the public sector. He and labour blew it as far as i am concerned when he was out in charge of public sector reform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    theballz wrote: »
    2 questions:
    1. Why have kids if you can’t afford childcare?
    2. Why work in Dublin if you have to commute for hours?

    And here's more of it. "Look at me! I'm so clever, I have simplistic solutions for everyone."

    Maybe the only jobs in your sector that your qualified for and actually want to do, are in Dublin. Maybe you're in your 30s and have been putting up with this crap for the best part of a decade and your options are coalescing to "have kids and be crippled with childcare costs" or "don't have kids, ever".

    Or are we going to suggest that our wonderful economically prosperous country with full employment should simultaneously be a dystopia where if you want to have kids you need to live an ultra frugal lifestyle out the arsehole of the rural Ireland so your housing costs are cheap and hope the local Centra can provide you with enough hours to stop you from getting cabin fever?

    Btw, none of this applies to me, personally. I don't have kids. I don't live or work near Dublin and my mortgage is about €600 a month. But just because I'm fine, doesn't mean everyone else is.

    These are real problems, and dismissing all Sinn Fein voters are greedy freeloaders who want the government to provide everything for them and tax anyone who ever did a day's work out of existence to pay for it, is completely delusional. You might as well believe in leprechauns.

    Oh just in case anyone's interested, I voted for Labour personally. But I understand a vote for SF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,740 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    Gotcha They want to keep more of their high wages for fun stuff while "someone else" pays for all the boring cost-of-living stuff that comes with living in a powerhouse economy so they voted for the party that understands economics about as poorly as they do themselves.

    You "bold" one word and consider it a "Gotcha" moment?


    I'm honestly embarrassed for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Strumms wrote: »
    How much support would SF give to the Gardai, Army and the courts against dissidents ?
    I sometimes wonder how long it took before FG/Cumann na nGaedheal stopped throwing stuff like this at FF. Was it before or after they interned and executed Republicans in the 40s some twenty years after the Civil War?


    SF recognised the legitimacy of Leinster House in 1986. They signed up to the GFA in 1998 with subsequent decommissioning and endorsing of policing. They are part of the government of the North on behalf of Westminster. They regularly meet British royals and lay wreaths to British soldiers. Just last week they were helping recruit for the PSNI/RUC. They regularly call on people to give information to the police with regards to Republican/dissident related activity.



    So, considering that we are over 30 years since they accepted the legitimacy of the state and over 20 since they accepted British rule in the North, what further action will they have to take before FG and FF will accept them?


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    What is it with the west Brit contingent here that they spout the unionist narrative on the Northern Troubles. There’s lots of dead on both sides. Lots of civilians. Lots of children. I lived through them. I voted SF number 1. The Troubles are over. The Brits who murdered their way through Ireland and their unionist lackeys are getting on with their political lives. It’s 23 years since the GFA. People need to move on. The people have spoken. And the people are the only ones to listen to.

    I've been here for the last hour and have only seen people criticising SF economic policies- but if it suits YOUR agenda, why not spout absolute rubbish and fake news.

    Me, I think SF will bankrupt the country- and the fact that they never showed on their website throughout the election, nor still show on their website, how they are going to fund all of their election promises, means they're a pack of idiots who shouldn't be put in charge of the Republic of Ireland.

    Nothing about murders, rapists, drug running, drugs, cigarette and fuel smuggling etc etc- sorry to disappoint you :(

    I did point out that Mary Lou McDonald is from off Orwell road, Dublin 6, one of the most exclusive addresses in Ireland- and that she's essentially trolling the most vulnerable people in Ireland to vote for total and utter economic destruction.

    But don't let the facts get in the way of your little rant ;)




    Link below in the likely even you never even visited the site before voting::)

    https://www.sinnfein.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    You "bold" one word and consider it a "Gotcha" moment?


    I'm honestly embarrassed for you.


    I didn't bold any words. This is bolding.


    Try to keep up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Tigerbaby


    I posit;

    Let SF have power, let them at it.

    Lets see how well they do in the real World.

    I have the emergency number of the IMF right here just in case.

    I don't want them in opposition where they can preen their unsullied feathers for another 5 years. Lets bring them into the light.

    Maybe their electorate might learn a few things about the reality of being a small country in a *massive* global Economy. I won't hold my breath.


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