2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

namloc1980

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Unlikely. Those gun toting folk tend not to attack police and businesses.
This battle is a left teamed with black folk vs police.
The Patriots won't get involved

Weren't they protesting their gun rights which ultimately is to fight oppressive over governance? Over militarised police and national guard shooting rubber bullets at people in their homes. Republicans and gun owners happy with this?

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notobtuse

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What was it you recently said about attacking the source?

My comment had to do with Rather trying to stay relevant.

Overheal

namloc1980 wrote: »

Weren't they protesting their gun rights which ultimately is to fight oppressive over governance? Over militarised police and national guard shooting rubber bullets at people in their homes. Republicans and gun owners happy with this?

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I’m surprised they don’t join in the protest. A month ago they cried “tyranny!” And demanded haircuts

notobtuse

So the daughter of Democrat Bill Blasio (New York City mayor) was arrested at a violent protest in NYC where she was part of a mob of protesters blocking emergency vehicles. Then we have Democrat lhan Omar’s daughter who was caught communicating with rioters through social media. And to top if off Democrat Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s daughter, Hope, was caught giving inside information to rioters about the National Guard troop movements on her social media.

Such lovely people these Democrats. What the hell are they teaching their kids?

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/31/its-unacceptable-richmond-police-chief-gets-emotional-while-talking-about-protests/

ExMachina1000

namloc1980 wrote: »

Weren't they protesting their gun rights which ultimately is to fight oppressive over governance? Over militarised police and national guard shooting rubber bullets at people in their homes. Republicans and gun owners happy with this?

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I think they will pick their battles. This is not one to get involved in. People will take the blame away from those clearly seen on videos wrecking cities and place it on right wing gun toting folk if they get involved. We both know this. Much better to stay clear

namloc1980

By the way politicians and the media are going on you'd swear Antifa was a vast highly organised and embedded organisation in every level of society. Reality is it's just another one dimensional bad guy to oppose and justify excessive use of force.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

So the daughter of Democrat Bill Blasio (New York City mayor) was arrested at a violent protest in NYC where she was part of a mob of protesters blocking emergency vehicles. Then we have Democrat lhan Omar’s daughter who was caught communicating with rioters through social media. And to top if off Democrat Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s daughter, Hope, was caught giving inside information to rioters about the National Guard troop movements on her social media.

Such lovely people these Democrats. What the hell are they teaching their kids?

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/31/its-unacceptable-richmond-police-chief-gets-emotional-while-talking-about-protests/

The First Amendment?

namloc1980

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I think they will pick their battles. This is not one to get involved in. People will take the blame away from those clearly seen on videos wrecking cities and place it on right wing gun toting folk if they get involved. We both know this. Much better to stay clear

So they don't have any principles when it comes to state oppression? Next time we hear them waffling on about the Constitution, it'll just be empty words.

If the scenes playing out in the USA were in other country we'd have politicians talking high and mighty about state aggression against citizens etc. Absolute hypocrites.

Cody montana

notobtuse wrote: »

So the daughter of Democrat Bill Blasio (New York City mayor) was arrested at a violent protest in NYC where she was part of a mob of protesters blocking emergency vehicles. Then we have Democrat lhan Omar’s daughter who was caught communicating with rioters through social media. And to top if off Democrat Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s daughter, Hope, was caught giving inside information to rioters about the National Guard troop movements on her social media.

Such lovely people these Democrats. What the hell are they teaching their kids?

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/31/its-unacceptable-richmond-police-chief-gets-emotional-while-talking-about-protests/

And then you had the president of the USA hiding in a bunker after saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts".

eagle eye

Overheal wrote:

I just don’t understand the reasons for you attacking mine, when it seems to offend everything you claim to hold dear with no sense of irony when it comes to criticizing other posts.
A strange hill for you to die on but I am glad to help you wither there.

All you've done since I asked you a simple question is ask questions back and deflect. Can you not just be honest and tell me why you criticised the poster for making a good point?

Brian?

eagle eye wrote: »

You seen all his live debates and have no concerns? May I suggest you go get tested yourself?

You watch Biden v Bernie? I ask again.

Madeleine Birchfield

namloc1980 wrote: »

So they don't have any principles when it comes to state oppression? Next time we hear them waffling on about the Constitution, it'll just be empty words.

If the scenes playing out in the USA were in other country we'd have politicians talking high and mighty about state aggression against citizens etc. Absolute hypocrites.

The scenes played out in Northern Ireland in 1969 and US politicians did feck all.

ChikiChiki

notobtuse wrote: »

So the daughter of Democrat Bill Blasio (New York City mayor) was arrested at a violent protest in NYC where she was part of a mob of protesters blocking emergency vehicles. Then we have Democrat lhan Omar’s daughter who was caught communicating with rioters through social media. And to top if off Democrat Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s daughter, Hope, was caught giving inside information to rioters about the National Guard troop movements on her social media.

Such lovely people these Democrats. What the hell are they teaching their kids?

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/31/its-unacceptable-richmond-police-chief-gets-emotional-while-talking-about-protests/

Your being extremely obtuse.

Overheal

eagle eye wrote: »

All you've done since I asked you a simple question is ask questions back and deflect. Can you not just be honest and tell me why you criticised the poster for making a good point?

All you’ve done since I asked you a simple question is to ask questions back and deflect. Can you not just be honest and tell me why you criticized me for making a good point?

Timberrrrrrrr

notobtuse wrote: »

My comment had to do with Rather trying to stay relevant.

So


The source?


Very hypocritical of you.

ExMachina1000

namloc1980 wrote: »

So they don't have any principles when it comes to state oppression? Next time we hear them waffling on about the Constitution, it'll just be empty words.

If the scenes playing out in the USA were in other country we'd have politicians talking high and mighty about state aggression against citizens etc. Absolute hypocrites.

Sure you could say that. You could say many things. Not getting involved is the best course of action in order to not become scapegoats. The actions of the rioters is out in the open for all to see. As is the actions of the police.
Best to stay clear

Cheerful Spring2

namloc1980 wrote: »

By the way politicians and the media are going on you'd swear Antifa was a vast highly organised and embedded organisation in every level of society. Reality is it's just another one dimensional bad guy to oppose and justify excessive use of force.

Antifa dislike Trump and his cronies and it's really is no surprise they be among the black people marching for justice and equal rights on the streets. They see some cops as fascists, puppets of the state, and they have joined in now to help change the system.

I saw no evidence yet this group has widespread support in white communities. How many from this group are rioting is unknown and there no evidence at all to this, they are highly organised group and have a vast network of support across the country. It suits Trump to blame the left and Antifa for the event and ignore the police force handling of this.

Trump tweets show the mental incapacity of the man to handle a complex issue like race. He doesn't seem to get it force and police brutality is the reason this started in the first place.

ExMachina1000

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Antifa dislike Trump and his cronies and it's really is no surprise they be among the black people marching for justice and equal rights on the streets. They see some cops as fascists, puppets of the state, and they have joined in now to help change the system.

I saw no evidence yet this group has widespread support in white communities How many from this group are rioting is unknown. There no evidence at all they are highly organised group and have a vast network of support across the country. It suits Trump to blame the left and Antifa for the event and ignore the police force handling of this.

Trump tweets show the mental incapacity of the man to handle a complex issue like race. He doesn't seem to get force and police brutality is the reason this started in the first place.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1267079910662778880?s=20

Antifa flag front and centre outside downing st. F the police they chant

notobtuse

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So


The source?


Very hypocritical of you.

The source for what? My opinion that Rather is trying to stay relevant? I think someone with such a high profile as Rather who was disgraced for pushing a lie, would think twice before stepping into horse$hit again. But I guess some people's egos are hard to tame and have a need to believe what they say is important anymore.

Overheal

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1267079910662778880?s=20

Antifa flag front and centre outside downing st. F the police they chant

Chanting wow I’m terrified

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

The source for what? My opinion that Rather is trying to stay relevant? I think someone with such a high profile as Rather who was disgraced for pushing a lie, would think twice before stepping into horse$hit again. But I guess some people's egos are hard to tame and have a need to believe what they say is important anymore.

That kind of thinking got Trump in the WH after all

ExMachina1000

Overheal wrote: »

Chanting wow I’m terrified

The point is that antifa have gotten involved in the protests both in the Us and now uk. Its undeniable.

The chanting is irrelevant but happening. No need to deflect or defend

Cheerful Spring2

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1267079910662778880?s=20

Antifa flag front and centre outside downing st. F the police they chant

One person with a Antifa flag waving in the crowd doesn't mean this protest at the gates was organised by them.

Overheal

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The point is that antifa have gotten involved in the protests both in the Us and now uk. Its undeniable.

The chanting is irrelevant but happening. No need to deflect or defend

I didn’t think anyone disputed an Antifa presence; the assertion has been all violence = Antifa.

Overheal

Brevedar wrote: »

There is nothing oppressive about a government imposing curfews when there is nationwide riots and looting. It's a reasonable measure.

So were lockdowns during a pandemic and yet people marched and they called it patriotism and a constitutional right. They shoved at police and assaulted a few but nobody was maced or tear gassed or run over with police vehicles. Don’t you wonder why that is?

eagle eye

Overheal wrote:

All you’ve done since I asked you a simple question is to ask questions back and deflect. Can you not just be honest and tell me why you criticized me for making a good point?

I asked you first, answer and then ask and I'll respond.

Carfacemandog

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The point is that antifa have gotten involved in the protests both in the Us and now uk. Its undeniable.

The chanting is irrelevant but happening. No need to deflect or defend

You know antifa are no more an organisation than conservatives or feminists, right?

eagle eye

Brian? wrote:

You watch Biden v Bernie? I ask again.

I did and it was undoubtedly his best performance by a country mile. One good day out of bunch doesn't hide his issues.

ExMachina1000

Carfacemandog wrote: »

You know antifa are no more an organisation than conservatives or feminists, right?

More of a collective.

Madeleine Birchfield

What are the chances of Trump declaring martial law in the US thus postponing the election indefinitely?