Will Britain piss off and get on with Brexit II (mod warning in OP)

loughside

Ahh Ha Ha Ha! here`s the latest from this shower of panic-stricken halfwits from Brussels. LOL!!

" The EU has published a statement following an extraordinary meeting of the EU-UK Joint Committee.
“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič stated that if the Bill were to be adopted, it would constitute an extremely serious violation of the Withdrawal Agreement and of international law.”

“Violating the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement would break international law, undermine trust and put at risk the ongoing future relationship negotiations.”

“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič called on the UK government to withdraw these measures from the draft Bill in the shortest time possible and in any case by the end of the month. He stated that by putting forward this Bill, the UK has seriously damaged trust between the EU and the UK. It is now up to the UK government to re-establish that trust.”

A bunch of unelected, unaccountable clowns trying to tell a sovereign government what to do and when to do it - signs of desperation and panic! Reminds me of the time they ordered the citizens of the ROI to vote again and make sure you get it right this time..LOL!!

ohnonotgmail

loughside wrote: »

Ahh Ha Ha Ha! here`s the latest from this shower of panic-stricken halfwits from Brussels. LOL!!

" The EU has published a statement following an extraordinary meeting of the EU-UK Joint Committee.
“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič stated that if the Bill were to be adopted, it would constitute an extremely serious violation of the Withdrawal Agreement and of international law.”

“Violating the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement would break international law, undermine trust and put at risk the ongoing future relationship negotiations.”

“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič called on the UK government to withdraw these measures from the draft Bill in the shortest time possible and in any case by the end of the month. He stated that by putting forward this Bill, the UK has seriously damaged trust between the EU and the UK. It is now up to the UK government to re-establish that trust.”

A bunch of unelected, unaccountable clowns trying to tell a sovereign government what to do and when to do it - signs of desperation and panic! Reminds me of the time they ordered the citizens of the ROI to vote again and make sure you get it right this time..LOL!!

well that is certainly one way to read what he said.

Seth Brundle

loughside wrote: »

Ahh Ha Ha Ha! here`s the latest from this shower of panic-stricken halfwits from Brussels. LOL!!

" The EU has published a statement following an extraordinary meeting of the EU-UK Joint Committee.
“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič stated that if the Bill were to be adopted, it would constitute an extremely serious violation of the Withdrawal Agreement and of international law.”

“Violating the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement would break international law, undermine trust and put at risk the ongoing future relationship negotiations.”

“Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič called on the UK government to withdraw these measures from the draft Bill in the shortest time possible and in any case by the end of the month. He stated that by putting forward this Bill, the UK has seriously damaged trust between the EU and the UK. It is now up to the UK government to re-establish that trust.”

A bunch of unelected, unaccountable clowns trying to tell a sovereign government what to do and when to do it - signs of desperation and panic! Reminds me of the time they ordered the citizens of the ROI to vote again and make sure you get it right this time..LOL!!

Are you here to contribute or to troll using outdated and evidently incorrect UK tabloid headlines?

loughside

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Are you here to contribute or to troll using outdated and evidently incorrect UK tabloid headlines?

They are NOT tabloid headlines - they are statements issued after todays meeting


Please try to keep up.

Seth Brundle

loughside wrote: »

They are NOT tabloid headlines - they are statements issued after todays meeting


Please try to keep up.

erm, I was referring to the childish nonsense that you composed...

loughside wrote: »

Ahh Ha Ha Ha! here`s the latest from this shower of panic-stricken halfwits from Brussels. LOL!!
<snip>
A bunch of unelected, unaccountable clowns trying to tell a sovereign government what to do and when to do it - signs of desperation and panic! Reminds me of the time they ordered the citizens of the ROI to vote again and make sure you get it right this time..LOL!!

Please try to keep up. :rolleyes:

joeguevara

loughside wrote: »

They are NOT tabloid headlines - they are statements issued after todays meeting


Please try to keep up.

I think it is more to do with the last three sentences of your post.

loughside

Seth Brundle wrote: »

erm, I was referring to the childish nonsense that you composed...



Please try to keep up. :rolleyes:

Erm, then why didn`t you say that in the first place? !!
Sorry if i`ve offended your sensitivities with those last three sentences - reality stings likea bitch don`t it?? !

joeguevara

loughside wrote: »

Erm, then why didn`t you say that in the first place? !!
Sorry if i`ve offended your sensitivities with those last three sentences - reality stings likea bitch don`t it?? !

Im not sure how you think posting ridiculous comments would offend sensitivities. It actually shows how your sensisitvies are offended by making you post things that aren't true/ You demonstrate a poor if not misguided knowledge of what is occurring. But I suppose, not much point in discussing that with someone who posts what you do!

Seth Brundle

loughside wrote: »

Erm, then why didn`t you say that in the first place? !!
Sorry if i`ve offended your sensitivities with those last three sentences - reality stings likea bitch don`t it?? !

Just so we're clear, are you hoping for an Irexit?

timetogo1

loughside wrote: »

Erm, then why didn`t you say that in the first place? !!

It was obvious to everybody else.

loughside

joeguevara wrote: »

It actually shows how your sensisitvies are offended by making you post things that aren't true/

So joe pray tell what things aren`t true?


@seth: No, couldn`t care less re. Irexit,

Seth Brundle

loughside wrote: »

So joe pray tell what things aren`t true?

Pretty much all of your points on the matter. They are inaccurate, based on tabloid nonsense. Maybe you'd like to prove me wrong and back up some of your points?

loughside wrote: »

@seth: No, couldn`t care less re. Irexit,

Fair enough, my bad.

CelticRambler

RobMc59 wrote: »

Yes,I've crossed borders within Europe.
Can you clarify the situation regarding the people entering Europe from the middle east -are they entering illegally and what is their status once in Europe?

First of all, as ArmaniJeanss pointed out, you cannot use the word "Europe" in this context without clarification. Do you mean the continent of Europe, do you mean the EU, not (now) including Britain; do you mean the EU as a whole; or do you mean the Schengen Area, which includes non-EU countries while excluding some EU members?

Then you need to specify which class of people you're referring to, because the rules can be surprisingly rigid, even for totally-above-board travellers. I occasionally host "world travellers" who are coming to the end of their 90-day Schengen visa and need to move on. Some stay within the EU and e.g. go to Ireland (non-Schengen) for 90days, some leave Europe altogether, only to come back again when their time is up. Unless other arrangements are put in place, this will apply to anyone travelling on a British passport very soon.

Then you've got people who are trafficked from disturbed areas of the world, and others who managed to get themselves into the EU or adjacent territories by their own wits. Their situation is largely covered by the Dublin Protocol - currently being reviewed by the EU - under which they are supposed to stay in the first country in which they arrive. The EU's biggest problem is that most of these people - for reasons best known to themselves - do not want to stay in the EU: they want to set up house in GB, and as you've undoubtedly seen on the news or on YouTube, will go to great lengths to get there.

When someone has made a determined effort to get themselves out of a war-torn Middle-Eastern country, across land or sea to the southern frontiers of the Schengen Area, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they can avoid the forces of law and order while making their way to the northern frontier so that they can cross one last bit of sea to get to a country that, we are reliably informed by its Prime Minister, is going to be one of the Best Countries in the World come 2021.

loughside

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

Seth Brundle

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

Your understanding if current events is clearly delusional. Even the US are on our side.

FrancieBrady

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

The EU is gonna shaft us ......one of these days...is it?

GazzaL

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

Even the "Conspiracy Theories and Tinfoil Hat" forum would be embarrassed by that post.

Donald Trump

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Your understanding if current events is clearly delusional. Even the US are on our side.

Nervous Nancy Pelosi warning them again today


https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/0910/1164483-pelosi-brexit/

GazzaL

I would encourage individuals and businesses to avoid buying British where possible. There are lots of great Irish and fellow EUropean businesses to support instead.

It's unfortunate and regrettable that we've gone from arguably the best period of Irish-British relations to the current state of affairs in such a short space of time, but we've seen the anti-Irish rhetoric throughout the Brexit debacle. Many British businesses still haven't got a clue about the realities of Brexit, particularly in relation to tariffs, contracts and data protection, you might as well be talking to the wall.

ohnonotgmail

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

The EU wants britain to stick to the agreement it has already made. that seems too difficult for the brits.

Donald Trump

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

If a border must to go up then the EU/Ireland should simply put up a one-way border.
Check everything and everyone coming in. Nothing going out. If the UK doesn't want to check things coming in then sure we'll just sell things to the people up North and sure they have their traditional "networks" to move "smuggled" goods around. UKs problem.


Likewise, the French and rest of EU can save some money by not putting up barriers at the end of the Channel Tunnel (once the current contract runs out)

GazzaL

Donald Trump wrote: »

If a border must to go up then the EU/Ireland should simply put up a one-way border.
Check everything and everyone coming in. Nothing going out. If the UK doesn't want to check things coming in then sure we'll just sell things to the people up North and sure they have their traditional "networks" to move "smuggled" goods around. UKs problem.


Likewise, the French and rest of EU can save some money by not putting up barriers at the end of the Channel Tunnel (once the current contract runs out)

And every other country in the world can export to the UK tariff-free, undercutting UK domestic industry, destroying British jobs and businesses, if they choose not to protect their border.

loughside

Donald Trump wrote: »

If a border must to go up then the EU/Ireland should simply put up a one-way border.
Check everything and everyone coming in. Nothing going out. If the UK doesn't want to check things coming in then sure we'll just sell things to the people up North

LOL!! Erm, the people up north as you put it are the UK,
anyway the ROI produce nothing that the UK needs, the ROI are utterly dependent of goods from outside, when the EU shafts you with Corporation Tax and Microsoft et al move to N.I or GB you`re in for a rude awakening.

RobMc59

Donald Trump wrote: »

Nervous Nancy Pelosi warning them again today


https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/0910/1164483-pelosi-brexit/

Oh no!!! Does that mean we won`t be getting chlorinated chicken after all!

timetogo1

loughside wrote: »

LOL!! Erm, the people up north as you put it are the UK,
anyway the ROI produce nothing that the UK needs, the ROI are utterly dependent of goods from outside, when the EU shafts you with Corporation Tax and Microsoft et al move to N.I or GB you`re in for a rude awakening.

Can you do a bit of reading before you post on a public forum. It's not even worth the while trying to correct you, you get so much wrong.

loughside

RobMc59 wrote: »

Oh no!!! Does that mean we won`t be getting chlorinated chicken after all!

Aye, think i`ll take my chances with that chicken over Irish beef riddled with angel dust.


What do ya think??



https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/27-cattle-test-positive-for-angel-dust-in-co-monaghan-case/

loughside

timetogo1 wrote: »

you get so much wrong.

please be so good and rectify then...

Cork_Guest

Donald Trump wrote: »

Nervous Nancy Pelosi warning them again today


https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/0910/1164483-pelosi-brexit/

Not sure how that helps in any way, she’s got a losing horse in the presidential race and a trade deal doesn’t go anywhere near her house for ratification.

ohnonotgmail

Cork_Guest wrote: »

Not sure how that helps in any way, she’s got a losing horse in the presidential race and a trade deal doesn’t go anywhere near her house for ratification.

trade agreements have to be approved by congress. she is the leader of the congress majority. She will have a big say in the treaty that is passed.

declanflynn

loughside wrote: »

Seems from todays events the eu wants a hard border- its now up to them to create one - in RoI.

Good luck to them trying to sell that to the Irish- whom incidentally are slowly waking up to the fact the Big Time Charlie T-shirt has sold them short.

RoI is about to become very isolated indeed,

add to that the doubled contributions and harmonised CT rates....hmmmm

The future of RoI as a member is not looking rosy.

I think you mean the uk is about to become very isolated mate, after the crap of the last few days no country will trust them again