Storm Brendan Monday 13 Jan 2020 ** See Mod note in OP before posting**

prunudo

No wonder the grading and warning system gets a grilling after each storm when every red top and now appears even weather presenters put out misinformation. All trying to out do each other with the latest info and get the most retweeted or shared post.

Snow Garden

Lovely bright and almost full moon tonight. Calm before the storm.

ratracer

ratracer wrote: »

In fairness, it was a lovely sunny day in Salthill today, plenty of people parking the car and walking the prom. No need to close the car park until after sundown, but that’s typical of the way GCC work! I see no issue with anyone using the car park today but anything left there now should be towed out of it, at the owners expense.

Maybe the concern is that people park the car there in the afternoon and leave it there for the night.

spookwoman

For the Ballycanew/ Ballyoughterhttps area of Wexford between Gory and Enniscorthy
https://twitter.com/BBCDA1/status/1216378167281229824?s=20

igCorcaigh

Might be some fluddin.

https://twitter.com/CarlowWeather/status/1216454751442763776?s=19

ratracer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe the concern is that people park the car there in the afternoon and leave it there for the night.

Yep, but there should be a big sign put up saying car park closed at sunset, and any remaining cars will be towed at owners expense!

easypazz

US2 wrote: »

Genuine question


If someone living on an island should heed the marine warnings, then shouldn't everyone who lives on the coast ? Same thing, surely?

Marine warnings are for mariners only. They do not apply to people who live on an island.

easypazz

Water John wrote: »

County might be a blunt instrument but it's the obvious and only one. You can tell the people of Mayo they're yellow, orange or red as appropriate, no misunderstanding.

Its not the only option. They could come up with something more localised.

OCALLAA5

easypazz wrote: »

Marine warnings are for mariners only. They do not apply to people who live on an island.

I don’t have an answer for you but I doubt this fella does either judging by previous posts. Graces7 who is a fellow islander will be able to better advise.

Larbre34

ratracer wrote: »

Yep, but there should be a big sign put up saying car park closed at sunset, and any remaining cars will be towed at owners expense!

They should put up a big sign saying the car park will be closed at sunset and any remaining cars can be collected in the Azores.

typhoony

spookwoman wrote: »

That is a quote from some facebook page called weather alert ireland run by someone called Nick

was thinking he had to be involved, another sensationalist, likes to say "we" and "HQ" a lot when it's just one guy on a computer looking at weather models trying to guess the weather like rest of us. number of times this winter he's exaggerated the potential impact, he's no weather expert except in his own head

pad199207

Really tightening up west of Ireland now

drunkmonkey

Pangea wrote: »

It doesnt make sense for the the likes of Dublin to be under the same warning as Donegal and Mayo.

Or west cork with north east. Two different planets.

M.T. Cranium

Tracking the storm, the centre of low pressure has started to move northeast, at 20z it was located near 52N 30W with the occluded front in a north-south line ahead of the low near 24W. The 18z pressure (when the centre was near 50N 32W) was 970 mb but it is probably falling at a rate of 2 mb an hour, so estimate now 965 mb.

Models are in close agreement now although some have tighter gradients associated with the nearest point of approach to Mayo due to different depictions of a circular or elongated form of the core circulation.

For most of the south and east, the main event of the storm will be the passage of the occluded front in the early afternoon. Wind speeds will be steadily increasing until that blows through, then will fall back to more moderate levels. Would expect some peak gusts of 55-65 knots with that phase.

For the west coast and in particular for Galway and Mayo, this will be a two-part storm with the occlusion providing an early peak around 1100-1200h, and then the closer approach of the low centre around 4-8 p.m. will provide a second and possibly stronger (for them) peak where I think 70-75 knot gusts are possible.

In some central counties there will be quite a distinct drop in wind speeds after the occlusion with a minor secondary peak from the outer edges of that coastal wind peak.

The occluded front will likely contain some squally showers and perhaps even a thunderstorm or two, and this could enhance local wind gusts.

I think the widespread orange warning is a good call and the ground reality will probably be mostly orange level with pockets of yellow in more protected inland locations and isolated red in exposed hilly or coastal locations. The max gust at one of the usual locations will likely verify a "red" but only marginally perhaps.

spookwoman

typhoony wrote: »

was thinking he had to be involved, another sensationalist, likes to say "we" and "HQ" a lot when it's just one guy on a computer looking at weather models trying to guess the weather like rest of us. number of times this winter he's exaggerated the potential impact, he's no weather expert except in his own head

Never heard of him of his page till now

SeaFields

Was just our looking up at a beautiful clear starry night here in Kerry. The epitome of the calm before the storm

M.T. Cranium

Larbre34 wrote: »

They should put up a big sign saying the car park will be closed at sunset and any remaining cars can be collected in the Azores.

more likely the Faeroes if they miss Rockall.

KingdomRushed

Orange warning winds will be sufficient to cause havoc in inland Ireland if they transpire. The storm itself is not making a direct hit, so perhaps some of the models are overcooking the expected winds. I think met Eireann have made a fair call here. Unfortunately for them people the length and breadth of Ireland seems to increasingly hold them accountable for the weather, leaving them dammed if they do and damned if they dont.

The whole country is orange. That means potentially damaging winds and act accordingly. Closing all the schools would be a bit much. People can assess risks themselves hopefully. There will not be country wide winds exceeding 130kph. In fact only exposed coasts and islands are likely to experience same.

Yer man from TV3 is not helping anyone with his chart.

United road

Is there any chance of setting up a dedicated thread for the cars parked in Salthill?

watlantic

I think if they give orange or red is irrelevant. Those in an exposed area, near coasts, etc., should use their own judgement and make sure they stay safe, even if it means missing a day's work. Who's to know what gust hits where and when ? What wave will overtop ?
Common sense should be applied not Meteoalarm/Eumetnet pictogram colour coding, that's my opinion. That used to work fine until the 'colours confusion' was introduced.
By the way, the same yellow/orange/red colour confusion (and dispute) has been going on in most European countries since Meteoalarm was introduced as an EU initiative some years ago, and for good reasons Ireland joined fairly late. The met.ie textual forecast is way more informative and precise than any colour pictogram can ever be.
Sorry, but I felt I had to get that of my chest.
Back to what interests me more:
Both ECMWF and GFS models now have storm Brendan further out W, later NW, at sea. Winds should still be as strong as predicted by Met Eireann, though. Winds of that strength nearly always do some damage. The threat of coastal flooding remains.
It is a very powerful storm with an expected min. central pressure of around 940 hPa (!) and the associated cold front should bring a lot of rain, too.

aidanodr

United road wrote: »

Is there any chance of setting up a dedicated thread for the cars parked in Salthill?

Cork Version ..

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/city-council-list-areas-drivers-17555239

Maybe of use to Cork Onions.

Cork City Council have listed a number of areas where drivers should avoid parking their cars over the next two days as they are low lying areas and could flood.

They are: South Terrace, Morrison’s Quay, Fr Matthew Quay, Trinity Bridge, Union Quay, Sharman Crawford Street, Wandesford Quay, Frenche’s Quay, Crosses Green, Lavitt’s Quay, Kyrl’s Quay.

If you are commuting or around town tomorrow then it is worth noting that high tide is 7:14am and 8:01am on Tuesday morning.

Interesting it says where drivers should avoid parking, which means they are not closing these areas for parking. Leaving it up to the car owners. No doubt as was / maybe the case in Salthill .. this will net some Gob****es, a word others mentioned here

Storm 10

United road wrote: »

Is there any chance of setting up a dedicated thread for the cars parked in Salthill?

Roads and car parks closed since 7pm tonight

Laurali

Outside of reds grounding the country, are planes able to fly through Brendan in the Atlantic? What grounds a plane in any of the airports?

Grace, stay safe, you are going to have to weigh down your house! Let us know how you are going tomorrow!

ninebeanrows

The 18z ICON FWIW does bring the swathe of winds near the core onshore into west/northwest

JuanJose

DCC has decided to close the car parks on the Clontarf Road. Evelyn Cusack mentioned rainfall is coming with this storm but didn't specify any region. Does anyone have any indication of whether we're likely to see a combo of high winds + rainfall + high tides causing flooding to the Dublin coastline?

Pangea

RTÉ news already given out the wrong info , said the warning comes into force in Donegal and Connacht at 9am, which is incorrect.

KingdomRushed

JuanJose wrote: »

DCC has decided to close the car parks on the Clontarf Road. Evelyn Cusack mentioned rainfall is coming with this storm but didn't specify any region. Does anyone have any indication of whether we're likely to see a combo of high winds + rainfall + high tides causing flooding to the Dublin coastline?

Met Eireann predictions are showing <10mm of rain in total for Dublin tomorrow. Doubt it's of concern.

RocketRaccoon

Shannon Airport should be fun tomorrow for work

Mortelaro

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The 18z ICON FWIW does bring the swathe of winds near the core onshore into west/northwest

I'll need a stronger pair of glasses but does that read 140 to 150kmh+ coming ashore :eek:
Let's hope that doesn't happen

Vinnie222

Any concerns for flights into Dublin tomorrow afternoon