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Cheltenham 2020

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    #1562
    akelly02
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Did she not win the mares one of the years? Done VVM on the line by a snot

    She did but she’s clearly not the same horse , flopped twice since , being particularly bad last year when a short price


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    #1563
    unplayable
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭unplayable


    I’m gonna be in cork Tuesday, london weds, Dublin thurs and lahinch in friday. **** my luck I’m all over the shop.


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    #1564
    The real mccoy 91
    Registered Users Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    howareyakid wrote: »
    Looking at the Gold Cup I can’t help being drawn to Clan Des Obeaux. There are the obvious question marks about his course form but he looked extremely impressive at Kempton over the Christmas, albeit in conditions not exactly comparable to Cheltenham. At around 8/1 generally, some of the value might be gone out of the price but after gaining the experience of finishing fifth in the race last year and not doing a lot wrong since, I feel he could have as good a chance as any.


    Puppy made an interesting point at the boyles preview tonight saying that lostintranslation was flat as a pancake for the king George and he should have been pulled up at the start of the second circuit but the fact that he still was in the running 4 out would lead him to think the form doesn't hold much.


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    #1565
    thelostboys23
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭thelostboys23


    castletownman wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a decent pub in Kilkenny city for the Thursday of the festival?

    Village Inn or Christys on Patrick St usually good for Cheltenham, Boyles right beside them too.

    On John St O Faolains or Breathnachs will have a decent crowd too and both beside Paddypowers.


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    #1566
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    The move to Pipe from Mullins is a negative but Panic Attack getting 15lbs off most of them in the Bumper as a 4 y/o filly might be a good bet.


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    #1567
    howareyakid
    Registered Users Posts: 906 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    Plasandrunt wrote: »
    The move to Pipe from Mullins is a negative but Panic Attack getting 15lbs off most of them in the Bumper as a 4 y/o filly might be a good bet.

    Queens Brook could be a another very interesting runner if she goes as well. Was an impressive winner at Gowran.


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    #1568
    Charlie George
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Charlie George


    Plasandrunt wrote: »
    The move to Pipe from Mullins is a negative but Panic Attack getting 15lbs off most of them in the Bumper as a 4 y/o filly might be a good bet.

    4 year olds don't win the bumper, cue card was the only one and he was exceptional.


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    #1569
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    See Ravenhill being switched to the NH Chase apparently his connections have agreed, wonder if that means Codd rides this and then gets on Le Breuil in the KM.

    Derek rides Forza Milan in the Nh Chase


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    #1570
    longshotvalue
    Registered Users Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    madmoose wrote: »
    See Ravenhill being switched to the NH Chase apparently his connections have agreed, wonder if that means Codd rides this and then gets on Le Breuil in the KM.

    Derek rides Forza Milan in the Nh Chase


    When (Sorry if:rolleyes:) Discorama wins or comes close in the Ultima) Le Breuil is going to get very short for this.Raging i didnt do the related double when Discorama was a huge price.


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    #1571
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I certainly don't think a jockey booking is the key to picking the winner of either amateur handicap. The fact remains there are loads of really talented amateurs out there. Codd and O'Connor might have experience but there are plenty of brilliant amateur riders atm. You can expect the price of anything that O'Connor or Codd get on will collapse a good few points. Get smart, Darragh O'Keefe, Kevin Brouder, Sean O'Keefe, your boy Morgan for the DeBromhead, all these boys are lashing in the winners riding like champions.

    Don't tunnel your picks into 2 jockeys, get smart.

    https://www.goracing.ie/racing-statistics/jockeys/leading-jockeys/

    https://www.amateurjockeys.org.uk/championship-tables/

    The best horse will win, especially over 3 or 4 miles.


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    #1572
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I certainly don't think a jockey booking is the key to picking the winner of either amateur handicap. The fact remains there are loads of really talented amateurs out there. Codd and O'Connor might have experience but there are plenty of brilliant amateur riders atm. You can expect the price of anything that O'Connor or Codd get on will collapse a good few points. Get smart, Darragh O'Keefe, Kevin Brouder, Sean O'Keefe, your boy Morgan for the DeBromhead, all these boys are lashing in the winners riding like champions.

    Don't tunnel your picks into 2 jockeys, get smart.

    https://www.goracing.ie/racing-statistics/jockeys/leading-jockeys/

    https://www.amateurjockeys.org.uk/championship-tables/

    The best horse will win, especially over 3 or 4 miles.

    Year in year out DOC & Codd turn up, different level above in those certain races at Cheltenham.

    I don’t think Le Breuil wins that nh chase last year without Codd’s assistance.


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    #1573
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    madmoose wrote: »
    Year in year out DOC & Codd turn up, different level above in those certain races at Cheltenham.

    I don’t think Le Breuil wins that nh chase last year without Codd’s assistance.

    I think Sam Whaley Cohen, Lisa O'Neill, Patrick Mullins,Josh Newman etc etc would beg to differ. Apart from that there are lots of brilliant conditionals.

    When you factor in the price collapse for either jockey I think it is smart to look around.


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    #1574
    zpehtsfd
    Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    howareyakid wrote: »
    Queens Brook could be a another very interesting runner if she goes as well. Was an impressive winner at Gowran.

    Heard she is definitely going. Really like her myself. Wasn't much of a bumper she won but couldn't have been more impressive. Also breeding suggests she should relish the hill. GL


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    #1575
    zpehtsfd
    Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    Conditional jockeys ride in the amateur races. :confused:.


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    #1576
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    Charlie George wrote: »
    4 year olds don't win the bumper, cue card was the only one and he was exceptional.

    Willie Mullins doesn't win Gold Cups either I was told all last year :)

    Panic Attack looked really impressive at MarketRasen and while i knew about it being 4 y/o i didn't realise it was a filly. Will being having a pop anyway


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    #1577
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    zpehtsfd wrote: »
    Conditional jockeys ride in the amateur races. :confused:.

    That is my undetstanding, correct me if i am wrong and I might be?


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    #1578
    EICVD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭EICVD


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    That is my undetstanding, correct me if i am wrong and I might be?

    Your wrong


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    #1579
    irish_major
    Registered Users Posts: 525 ✭✭✭irish_major


    EICVD wrote: »
    Your wrong

    No, you're wrong!


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    #1580
    Charlie George
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Charlie George


    Are the 6 day declarations out today.


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    #1581
    Hulk Hands
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    aidankkk wrote: »
    When (Sorry if:rolleyes:) Discorama wins or comes close in the Ultima) Le Breuil is going to get very short for this.Raging i didnt do the related double when Discorama was a huge price.

    Related form from a full year ago off levels won't make a jot of difference in price to a horse off a hcap mark, running 6f shorter on a different course


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    #1582
    madmoose
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    Charlie George wrote: »
    Are the 6 day declarations out today.

    Yeah, 20 left in the nh chase and 49 in the novice chase


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    #1583
    yaboya1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    The amount of nonsense in the last two pages alone is astonishing:

    Conditional jockeys riding in amateur races.
    Only one 4yo has won the bumper.
    Related doubles that are unrelated.

    Best get out before the festival starts and the bull**** levels go through the roof.


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    #1584
    Earendil
    Registered Users Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Earendil


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    The amount of nonsense in the last two pages alone is astonishing:

    Conditional jockeys riding in amateur races.
    Only one 4yo has won the bumper.
    Related doubles that are unrelated.

    Best get out before the festival starts and the bull**** levels go through the roof.

    Back with your usual arrogant sh!te I see.


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    #1585
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    The amount of nonsense in the last two pages alone is astonishing:

    Conditional jockeys riding in amateur races.
    Only one 4yo has won the bumper.
    Related doubles that are unrelated.

    Best get out before the festival starts and the bull**** levels go through the roof.

    Clown.


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    #1586
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    The amount of nonsense in the last two pages alone is astonishing:

    Conditional jockeys riding in amateur races.
    Only one 4yo has won the bumper.
    Related doubles that are unrelated.

    Best get out before the festival starts and the bull**** levels go through the roof.





    Don’t forget to back istabraq in the hurdle buddy.good lad


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    #1587
    EICVD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭EICVD


    irish_major wrote: »
    No, you're wrong!

    I was expecting that reply but you know I’m right.


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    #1588
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Is there any crossover between amateur jockeys and conditionals? Can you be both?


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    #1589
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Is there any crossover between amateur jockeys and conditionals? Can you be both?

    I assume you’re taking the piss.


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    #1590
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    lemush wrote: »
    I assume you’re taking the piss.

    No, I mean what is the criteria to be either?

    Say I am not taking the piss for a second?


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    #1591
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Lads, if you were going to pay for quality cheltenham tips, who would you go to?


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