VW ID.4

Black_Knight

forumdedum wrote: »

After checking 135km round trip. I would so prefer to have plenty of range. I would have bought an EV years ago if range was better.

Funny I nearly bought the i3 years ago but it always ended up around the €50,000 which was too much. EVs new are still very pricey imo.

Really disappointed I missed out on the 1st.

I have little tolerance of extras being removed, particularly in Ireland. I remember having the basic Audi A4 and when I told an Audi sale rep while in holiday in USA what I had gotten for the equivalent in $ he was truly shocked. In USA I could have had an S-Line high end car.

Might still be a first somewhere in the country. If you're really to buy today, ring every dealer tomorrow and find one.

If your 135km trip is mixed driving, you'd probably have about 250km range. If it's a Dublin to Cork drive, expect at least 1 charge. Most likely 2 according to abrp.

deravarra

forumdedum wrote: »

After checking 135km round trip. I would so prefer to have plenty of range. I would have bought an EV years ago if range was better.

Funny I nearly bought the i3 years ago but it always ended up around the €50,000 which was too much. EVs new are still very pricey imo.

Really disappointed I missed out on the 1st.

I have little tolerance of extras being removed, particularly in Ireland. I remember having the basic Audi A4 and when I told an Audi sale rep while in holiday in USA what I had gotten for the equivalent in $ he was truly shocked. In USA I could have had an S-Line high end car.

Some would have you believe it's all to do with taxes. It's definitely not. Pre tax price in Ireland on some cars is much more than you would pay elsewhere.

forumdedum

Black_Knight wrote: »

Might still be a first somewhere in the country. If you're really to buy today, ring every dealer tomorrow and find one.

If your 135km trip is mixed driving, you'd probably have about 250km range. If it's a Dublin to Cork drive, expect at least 1 charge. Most likely 2 according to abrp.

Not sure I'm ready to buy today but would consider. I'd be hoping to trade in my Tiguan (which I still really like)

I don't drive to Cork much, only if going on holiday.

I'll definitely look into it.

forumdedum

deravarra wrote: »

Some would have you believe it's all to do with taxes. It's definitely not. Pre tax price in Ireland on some cars is much more than you would pay elsewhere.

Well a long time ago Bertie Ahern raised the VRT from £50 (punt) to the thousands we pay today. A sneaky move it has been said.

eko

Jofspring wrote: »

Been looking at the style too. 10k for the extra battery size and horsepower is very saucey and hard to justify. It's also a pity you can't add the electric tailgate as an extra.

Agreed; the options list is slim pickings for the Style - we added the power seats, but no option for powered tailgate or panoramic roof for the smaller battery.

Fraggle00

Is the connect app and VW website down for everyone or just me?

hold my beer

Fraggle00 wrote: »

Is the connect app and VW website down for everyone or just me?

Yep, can't log into the App

cannco253

App and website has been down since this morning.

Latest email from We Connect support below. I also asked them why Irish users pay more then German users....left hand - right hand, clear as mud


Dear Mr xyz

Thank you for your reply.

Please allow us to explain, if you own the ID.3/ID4 pure with the 50kw battery then the monthly fee is:

For the Go 7,49 Euro.
For the Plus: 17,49 Euro.

If you own the ID.3/ID.4 Pro,Pro S,Max etc or the Pure with the 100KW battery then the monthly fees are as follows:

For the Go 0.00 Euro.
For the Plus: 9,99 Euro.

We hope the above cleared things up.

Alternatively, you may call our direct line 800 – 930066 (around the clock, 7 days a week), for any further detailed information. Your case reference is 0000704140.

We wish you always safe and pleasant journeys with your Volkswagen.


Kind regards,
Your Digital Service Team

Black_Knight

cannco253 wrote: »

App and website has been down since this morning.

Latest email from We Connect support below. I also asked them why Irish users pay more then German users....left hand - right hand, clear as mud


Dear Mr xyz

Thank you for your reply.

Please allow us to explain, if you own the ID.3/ID4 pure with the 50kw battery then the monthly fee is:

For the Go 7,49 Euro.
For the Plus: 17,49 Euro.

If you own the ID.3/ID.4 Pro,Pro S,Max etc or the Pure with the 100KW battery then the monthly fees are as follows:

For the Go 0.00 Euro.
For the Plus: 9,99 Euro.

We hope the above cleared things up.

Alternatively, you may call our direct line 800 – 930066 (around the clock, 7 days a week), for any further detailed information. Your case reference is 0000704140.

We wish you always safe and pleasant journeys with your Volkswagen.


Kind regards,
Your Digital Service Team

So we should get go for free then, no? You follow up to enquire how we get that rate rather than the 7.49 the app says?

Summer8181

Few interesting points above. I have an ID4 and I'll tell you my experience. I've done a few road trips.

There are a few factors that you need to account for. Someone good with figures can calculate. You can use price at 11c and 32c per kWh. Cheapest and most expensive 11kWh up to 50kWh. Car has 82kWh battery but only 77kWh usable. When you charge battery to 100%, it is 82Kwh.

My car will do 500km at between 90-100km/hr. Outside temperature 15 degrees C , no breeze and dry roads. Car heater level 1 at 20 degrees.

125km/hr you you will only get 280-300km. Temperature 8-14 degrees.

If it is 1 or 2 degrees outside car takes 30 minutes to warm battery and car is thirsty. Good idea to charge battery for 20 minutes before you depart.

Summer driving mixed driving, easy to get 400-450 km. I believe based on cold morning driving that you will get somewhere between 300-350KM during winter months.

Car doesn't like windy conditions or climbing hills. Car will roll for miles down hills in D mode.

Black_Knight

Summer8181 wrote: »

. When you charge battery to 100%, it is 82Kwh.

Not exactly. While the capacity is 82kWh, the bottom 2-3kWh is never depleted, and the top 2-3kWh is never charged ( don't know the split between top and bottom). So when you charge to full, you're really only charging about 80kWh.

Banana Republic 1

forumdedum wrote: »

After checking 135km round trip. I would so prefer to have plenty of range. I would have bought an EV years ago if range was better.

Funny I nearly bought the i3 years ago but it always ended up around the €50,000 which was too much. EVs new are still very pricey imo.

Really disappointed I missed out on the 1st.

I have little tolerance of extras being removed, particularly in Ireland. I remember having the basic Audi A4 and when I told an Audi sale rep while in holiday in USA what I had gotten for the equivalent in $ he was truly shocked. In USA I could have had an S-Line high end car.

Classic Paddy spec issue. I don’t really understand the reasons for P spec, is it the that the dealers are a robbing baxtards or is to do with vrt.

Summer8181

Thanks Knight. Wasn't quite sure. Was measuring it using the meter box and knew by the units used that it was more than 77. Knew there was little drain during the night but there could be a unit or 2.

So who will work out cost per km at 11c and 32c per unit? Vs cost of diesel at 133c per litre. Price of diesel will only increase but that is for another day.

I can't add 2 + 2

Banana Republic 1

Summer8181 wrote: »

Thanks Knight. Wasn't quite sure. Was measuring it using the meter box and knew by the units used that it was more than 77. Knew there was little drain during the night but there could be a unit or 2.

So who will work out cost per km at 11c and 32c per unit? Vs cost of diesel at 133c per litre. Price of diesel will only increase but that is for another day.

I can't add 2 + 2

Depends on km covered.

Summer8181

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Depends on km covered.

Use the average 400km. Realistic and achievable

forumdedum

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Classic Paddy spec issue. I don’t really understand the reasons for P spec, is it the that the dealers are a robbing baxtards or is to do with vrt.

Good question

forumdedum

Summer8181 wrote: »

Car doesn't like windy conditions or climbing hills. Car will roll for miles down hills in D mode.

Thanks for all your tips. Great to hear from an owner.

When you say car doesn't like windy conditions or climbing hills do you mean it struggles or just uses up more of the available range?

Summer8181

Black_Knight wrote: »

Generally EVs can be run for about 1/5 the fuel costs of diesel.

My old Passat CC was costing me about €850 a year in fuel, and my old Ioniq EV was costing me about €150 a year. ID.4 will cost me a bit more, closer to €200 a year i'd imagine. Add ~€50 for public charging I might do during the year, and that's pretty generous for me.

77kWh battery, doing 400km on a full charge = 0.1925kWh per km. My cost per kWh at night is 6cent, so 1.155cent per 1km of driving.

Wow. Who are you with for your electricity. Electric Ireland are about 11c on night rate. Is 6c Inc. VAT?

Jofspring

Summer8181 wrote: »

Wow. Who are you with for your electricity. Electric Ireland are about 11c on night rate. Is 6c Inc. VAT?

Energia are 6c. They even have a 4c night rate but that puts your day rate up by 2c I think.

Summer8181

Jofspring wrote: »

Energia are 6c. They even have a 4c night rate but that puts your day rate up by 2c I think.

Thanks. Don't want to change from Electric Ireland. Day rate and standing charges. Are they similar rates. Always a catch

Think my ID4 is 2.2c per Km night rate. ICE was 6.2c per km. Rough figures.

nkay1985

Hi all. Just wondering if anyone has driven the "148HP" version of the ID.4. I don't need the range of the bigger battery version but am worried about the power of the smaller battery one; it's a heavy car.

On the "204HP" one, I'm curious how it drives. Because there's obviously plenty around it but I'm guessing that you don't exactly fly around in this style of car. I've always had nippy hatchbacks and have come close to buying an ID.3 but I'm not mad about the look of it (especially the weird unibrow on the bonnet), whereas I've loved the ID.4 from when I first saw it.

Thanks.

Summer8181

Jofspring wrote: »

Energia are 6c. They even have a 4c night rate but that puts your day rate up by 2c I think.

Must be 6c plus VAT

catharsis

cannco253 wrote: »

App and website has been down since this morning.

Latest email from We Connect support below. I also asked them why Irish users pay more then German users....left hand - right hand, clear as mud


Dear Mr xyz

Thank you for your reply.

Please allow us to explain, if you own the ID.3/ID4 pure with the 50kw battery then the monthly fee is:

For the Go 7,49 Euro.
For the Plus: 17,49 Euro.

If you own the ID.3/ID.4 Pro,Pro S,Max etc or the Pure with the 100KW battery then the monthly fees are as follows:

For the Go 0.00 Euro.
For the Plus: 9,99 Euro.

We hope the above cleared things up.

Alternatively, you may call our direct line 800 – 930066 (around the clock, 7 days a week), for any further detailed information. Your case reference is 0000704140.

We wish you always safe and pleasant journeys with your Volkswagen.


Kind regards,
Your Digital Service Team

So did you reply and say "that's great. I own an ID4. 1st, please ensure that I receive GO for zero per month?" :-)

Black_Knight

Jofspring wrote: »

Energia are 6c. They even have a 4c night rate but that puts your day rate up by 2c I think.

It was 4c, but they increased prices on April 5th I think. It's 6c now. Day rate is like 18c I think. All including vat

Black_Knight

Summer8181 wrote: »

Thanks. Don't want to change from Electric Ireland. Day rate and standing charges. Are they similar rates. Always a catch

Think my ID4 is 2.2c per Km night rate. ICE was 6.2c per km. Rough figures.

Day rate is 18c, standing charge is 230 odd.

If you're getting 33c and 11c, you could probably blindly pick any energy provider and get a better rate. Switch, save hundreds. Use bonkers.ie to get a better idea what you can save

Black_Knight

nkay1985 wrote: »

Hi all. Just wondering if anyone has driven the "148HP" version of the ID.4. I don't need the range of the bigger battery version but am worried about the power of the smaller battery one; it's a heavy car.

On the "204HP" one, I'm curious how it drives. Because there's obviously plenty around it but I'm guessing that you don't exactly fly around in this style of car. I've always had nippy hatchbacks and have come close to buying an ID.3 but I'm not mad about the look of it (especially the weird unibrow on the bonnet), whereas I've loved the ID.4 from when I first saw it.

Thanks.

I don't think the 148hp ones are in Ireland yet. The 1st edition 204hp is nippy enough. You can feel it's a big car though and certainly not as nippy as my old ioniq. For reference, the ioniq has 120hp I think, and was 600kg lighter. Taking 50hp away wouldn't kill the car, but it certainly reaffirms it's "city" status.

Black_Knight

forumdedum wrote: »

Thanks for all your tips. Great to hear from an owner.

When you say car doesn't like windy conditions or climbing hills do you mean it struggles or just uses up more of the available range?

More range, just like any car really,. Plenty of power to get up hills etc.

cannco253

App and website are back working today

Padraig Mor

Anyone get a knocking from the back left of the car - sounds like a shock or something? Have got it intermittently since the start but didn't pay much attention, but have since seen someone in the UK noticing the same thing.

kanuseeme

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Anyone get a knocking from the back left of the car - sounds like a shock or something? Have got it intermittently since the start but didn't pay much attention, but have since seen someone in the UK noticing the same thing.

Is it an really small software engineer hiding in some small space getting frustrated?:D:D:D:D