Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

ohnonotgmail

Overheal wrote: »

This is his first Coronavirus briefing since April 23, the day he was laughed out of the media cycle for suggesting we inject people with a disinfectant and using some unspecified means to expose the inside of the body to sunlight/UV light.

"There's been a rumor that -- you know, a very nice rumor -- that you go outside in the sun or you have heat and it does have an effect on other viruses," Trump said, before asking coronavirus task force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx "to speak to the medical doctors to see if there's any way that you can apply light and heat to cure, you know, if you could."

Trump then asked Birx if she "ever heard of the heat and the light" having an impact on viruses. She responded, "Not as a treatment," before Trump asked her again to look into it.

Later, Trump again directed Birx to look into the potential for sunlight to be a cure. "I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there's any way that you can apply light and heat to cure, you know, if you could. And maybe you can, maybe you can't."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/politics/fact-check-coronavirus-briefing-april-23/index.html


“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,” he said.

“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body,” the president said Thursday.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-disinfectant-as-treatment-for-coronavirus-by-injection-inside-or-almost-a-cleaning-doctors-call-the-idea-dangerous-2020-04-24

Rolling live now, first thing out of his mouth practically was "China Virus"

You have to start with the classics. give the covidiots what they want.

amdublin

He said china virus three times in the first three minutes?

Now, a big load of lies about the USA doing so much better than all other countries.

Kayleigh's body language (over to the side) looks nervous.

I am predicting he will leave the podium straight after and leave her for the questions

Overheal

amdublin wrote: »

He said china virus three times in the first three minutes?

Now, a big load of lies about the USA doing so much better than all other countries.

Kayleigh's body language (over to the side) looks nervous.

I am predicting he will leave the podium straight after and leave her for the questions

They will likely all flee but who knows, it's Trump.

I'm impressed he's lasted this long without going on a tangent about Biden.

4068ac1elhodqr

He's a bit off (6mths, upto current) with 'mortality rates', as a couple of sunny places are doing better, although record keeping in Mumbai might need some thought flexibility.
Sweden appeared to have went with an early and sudden 'let-loose purge' approach on their old folks.

Foxtrol

Overheal wrote: »

They will likely all flee but who knows, it's Trump.

I'm impressed he's lasted this long without going on a tangent about Biden.

Instead he repeatedly wished an alleged child trafficker well.

That wouldn't have been on too many bingo cards, he is always one for surprises.

Timberrrrrrrr

The Lincoln Project ads just get better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsaO3v4SvwA

Overheal

All in all I think he was well prepped for this one and had been anticipating it for the last couple days, so it's no surprise. You'll likely see him get back into old form as these carry on though, as he gets bored of the daily prep or is distracted by some issue du jour and goes off on a tangent.

goose2005

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The Lincoln Project ads just get better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsaO3v4SvwA

that'll get out the youth vote, a show that ended 22 years ago...

BonnieSituation

goose2005 wrote: »

that'll get out the youth vote, a show that ended 22 years ago...

The youth vote shouldn't need an ad to get out. And after the last 4 years of Trump, if they don't voted then fupp them.

The Lincoln Project stuff isn't being aimed specifically at them anyway.

Timberrrrrrrr

goose2005 wrote: »

that'll get out the youth vote, a show that ended 22 years ago...

The joys of the LP ads, this one is for the 40 somethings, the next will be for a different age/generation.

Rjd2

The Lincoln Project are absolute ghouls who paved the way for Trump and its absurd that people who call themselves leftwing are cheer leading for them.

Its not surprising that these scumbags have been able to find to many marks to grift , but its still nonetheless a pretty depressing sight.

Overheal

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Lincoln Project are absolute ghouls who paved the way for Trump and its absurd that people who call themselves leftwing are cheer leading for them.

Its not surprising that these scumbags have been able to find to many marks to grift , but its still nonetheless a pretty depressing sight.

They’re anti Trump republicans. Nobody is illusioned that they aren’t republicans, or that many if not all of them campaigned against a Hillary Clinton presidency.

I see you get your “grift” talking points from Ben Shapiro and Laura Ingraham too? No secret what media you’ve been adopting lately.

https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1285411140512645120?s=21

Timberrrrrrrr

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Lincoln Project are absolute ghouls who paved the way for Trump and its absurd that people who call themselves leftwing are cheer leading for them.

Its not surprising that these scumbags have been able to find to many marks to grift , but its still nonetheless a pretty depressing sight.

Who is this?

Rjd2

Overheal wrote: »

They’re anti Trump republicans. Nobody is illusioned that they aren’t republicans, or that many if not all of them campaigned against a Hillary Clinton presidency.

I see you get your “grift” talking points from Ben Shapiro and Laura Ingraham too? No secret what media you’ve been adopting lately.

https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1285411140512645120?s=21

Lincoln Project founders are some of the worst people , Wilson, Kristol etc who have all played a big role in making a Trump presidency possible.

This is a grift nothing more than that and its somewhat depressing that people who claim they are left wing are lapping up.

I don't think I have ever watched much of Ingram so don't really want to comment on her, Shapiro is the worst of the worst. He has made millions dunking on teenagers while running from debates from anyone half serious. The Andrew Neil interview with him is political pornhub for me.

His neoconservatism politics blah blah free markets, overseas exceptionalism,,picking yourself by your bootstrap bollocks are all policies that the Lincoln Project have forced on the American people when they were in power and heh its a mystery we got Trump isn't it?

Its quite possible to believe Shapiro and The Lincoln Project are both abysmal and people should stop giving them money.

Rjd2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who is this?

Go online anywhere its impossible to avoid their videos while those posting them claim they are left wing and supporting the Democrat party.

The same people Yesterday who were probably celebrating John ****ing Kasich speaking at the DNC.

Overheal

Rjd2 wrote: »

Lincoln Project founders are some of the worst people , Wilson, Kristol etc who have all played a big role in making a Trump presidency possible.

This is a grift nothing more than that and its somewhat depressing that people who claim they are left wing are lapping up.

I don't think I have ever watched much of Ingram so don't really want to comment on her, Shapiro is the worst of the worst. He has made millions dunking on teenagers while running from debates from anyone half serious.

His neoconservatism politics blah blah free markets, overseas exceptionalism,,picking yourself by your bootstrap bollocks are all policies that the Lincoln Project have forced on the American people when they were in power.

Its quite possible to believe Shapiro and The Lincoln Project are both crap.

Sure a lot of people helped get Trump elected and changed their minds, that’s allowed. Doesn’t make them grifters, it’s not like LP is begging me for money? Whereas people like Bolton are trying to get rich off books before they will testify in an impeachment trial. Now, that’s grifting. You using that word here makes me less than sure you know what it means - or them, Ben and Laura, for that matter.

Rjd2

Overheal wrote: »

Sure a lot of people helped get Trump elected and changed their minds, that’s allowed. Doesn’t make them grifters, it’s not like LP is begging me for money? Whereas people like Bolton are trying to get rich off books before they will testify in an impeachment trial. Now, that’s grifting. You using that word here makes me less than sure you know what it means - or them, Ben and Laura, for that matter.

The Lincoln Project exists to enrich its founders and heh if people want to make Ric Wilson even wealthier than he is go ahead, but don't claim you are left wing and swoon over their videos. (not saying you are, but plenty others elsewhere are)

These are very bad people who didn't merely vote Republican many were key members of Republican think tanks over last few decades which enforced Zombie Reganism on the nation.

Hopefully when Trump loses these people like him will **** off, but I do worry they will try and steer the Biden presidency to the right on certain issues such as foreign policy and Biden a hawk will be very susceptible to these ghouls.

Overheal

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Lincoln Project exists to enrich its founders and heh if people want to make Ric Wilson even wealthier than he is go ahead, but don't claim you are left wing and swoon over their videos. (not saying you are, but plenty others elsewhere are)

These are very bad people who didn't merely vote Republican many were key members of Republican think tanks over last few decades which enforced Zombie Reganism on the nation.

Hopefully when Trump loses these people like him will **** off, but I do worry they will try and steer the Biden presidency to the right on certain issues such as foreign policy and Biden a hawk will be very susceptible to these ghouls.

Meh. You can certainly still be counted among the cultural left and still count the Lincoln Project as the enemy of your enemy.

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Lincoln Project exists to enrich its founders and heh if people want to make Ric Wilson even wealthier than he is go ahead, but don't claim you are left wing and swoon over their videos. (not saying you are, but plenty others elsewhere are)

These are very bad people who didn't merely vote Republican many were key members of Republican think tanks over last few decades which enforced Zombie Reganism on the nation.

Hopefully when Trump loses these people like him will **** off, but I do worry they will try and steer the Biden presidency to the right on certain issues such as foreign policy and Biden a hawk will be very susceptible to these ghouls.

Step one: get rid of Trump.

Everything after that will be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Rjd2

Overheal wrote: »

Meh. You can certainly still be counted among the cultural left and still count the Lincoln Project as the enemy of your enemy.

Of course, but the glee I see about their videos online all the time its a bit much.

I don't think either of us are going to budge to much on this, so will leave this debate for now. I am sure when they post their next viral video (probably tomorrow ) we can revisit.

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Step one: get rid of Trump.

Everything after that will be dealt with in the fullness of time.

We shall see.:)

I hope the Biden presidency is genuinely trailblazing because in 4 years you will get a version of Trump who is much more telegenic and certainly much more cunning.

Overheal

Rjd2 wrote: »

Of course, but the glee I see about their videos online all the time its a bit much.

I don't think either of us are going to budge to much on this, so will leave this debate for now. I am sure when they post their next viral video (probably tomorrow ) we can revisit.

It's as much the glee as they're fairly good at it, as it is amazing to see the strife under the GOPs big tent. I have never seen a party/side campaign this hard against their own incumbent POTUS, I've seen them primary their own congresspeople sure but this is a new level.

Pa ElGrande

“We have a whole group of lawyers who are going out to every polling-every-uh uh uh voter registration physician in the states, the Secretaries of States...to allow for voting in place.”
Joe Biden

source

and

BREAKING: Trump Signs Executive Order Excluding Illegal Immigrants from ‘Being Counted’ for Voting Districts



Both sides are laying the groundwork to take the US presidential election to their supreme court.

Quin_Dub

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

and

BREAKING: Trump Signs Executive Order Excluding Illegal Immigrants from ‘Being Counted’ for Voting Districts



Both sides are laying the groundwork to take the US presidential election to their supreme court.

And Trumps "Executive Order" has no basis in Law - The President has no rights or authority to change how the Census works. It can only be done by congress.

It's pointless sabre rattling for his base.

Overheal

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And Trumps "Executive Order" has no basis in Law - The President has no rights or authority to change how the Census works. It can only be done by congress.

It's pointless sabre rattling for his base.

I could go on all day and night about the 14th amendment, in particular, if anyone has any confusion about this point. It became a pastime after discovering most of my congressman’s most loyal constituents have apparently never read it, and had some very creative ideas about what they thought the constitution says that it really doesn’t. He hasn’t any leg to stand on with this, it is just red meat for the base: a way to make Trump look like he’s doing something about illegal immigration while earning a narrative against ‘activist liberal judges’ when they invariably issue injunction, which makes them even more supporting of the GOP drive to rubber stamp more and more Trump judiciary appointments.

timsey tiger

goose2005 wrote: »

that'll get out the youth vote, a show that ended 22 years ago...

I didn't get the Seinfield reference, never watched much of it. I was thinking cloverfield and promptly forgot about the title.

It was very good though. I really like curb your enthusiasm, I guess I can relate.

timsey tiger

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Lincoln Project exists to enrich its founders and heh if people want to make Ric Wilson even wealthier than he is go ahead, but don't claim you are left wing and swoon over their videos. (not saying you are, but plenty others elsewhere are)

These are very bad people who didn't merely vote Republican many were key members of Republican think tanks over last few decades which enforced Zombie Reganism on the nation.

Hopefully when Trump loses these people like him will **** off, but I do worry they will try and steer the Biden presidency to the right on certain issues such as foreign policy and Biden a hawk will be very susceptible to these ghouls.

I love it when bad people are fighting with each other, instead of ganging up on the good guys.

Igotadose

timsey tiger wrote: »

I love it when bad people are fighting with each other, instead of ganging up on the good guys.

+1 to this. Money from Republicans that might've gone to Republican causes, now goes to the Lincoln Project. And there are other anti-Trump Republican efforts out there like rvat.org and Meidas.

Quin_Dub

Igotadose wrote: »

+1 to this. Money from Republicans that might've gone to Republican causes, now goes to the Lincoln Project. And there are other anti-Trump Republican efforts out there like rvat.org and Meidas.

Indeed - The Biden campaign out fundraised the Trump campaign in each of the last 3 months , how much of that gap is down to formerly Republican money going to groups like the Lincoln Project instead of into the usual GOP PAC's?

Overheal

Trumps campaign has already cost him a billion dollars. That’s money spent. To be this far behind.

That’s still not close to the total this election will be and it’s not even a quarter what was spent in 2016 all totaled up, which was about $6.5Bn but that’s still a lot of moola. But it still far outstrips what the spend was for his campaign in 2016, which was less than half that figure.