Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

nthclare

mynamejeff wrote: »

stand in the middle of the street thumping on cars , car drives off slowly and them run crying to the police on a peddle bike to catch the innocent driver

Antifa all over

They were in their own car and a few of Protonmike's friends mistook them for for a Nazi salute rather than adjusting their mirror, so they attempted to pull them out or the car and punch them in the head.

Protonmike has no sympathy for anyone getting a punch in the head if they do a Nazi salute or adjust their mirror's, if you're philosophical or can follow a metaphor Protonmike you'll understand my post...

Antifa lovely people alright, no they're not they're a bunch of pussies and bell ends.

Brian?

AllForIt wrote: »

There's no need at all to be setting up fake twitter accounts, all that needs to be done is record them and post it on twitter.

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1267487985639075843

Car drives through some people and you're happy?

I'm duty bound to ask again: Aside from the word "Antifa" in the tweet, how do we know those people were Antifa?

Potatoeman

Do they realise that if there was a communist revolution, the first thing that they would do when they get into power is kill the anarchists? The two things are diametrically opposed.

BarnardsLoop

Let's be honest here: to these types, "antifa" is literally just "people to the left of me"/"people expressing an opinion I think is left-wing".

The same dopes whinging about "alt left", ignoring that the term "alt right" was literally coined by an American white supremacist (Richard Spencer) as a euphemism for themselves. The "alt left" doesn't exist, it's yet another piss-poor attempt to dirty anyone to the left of themselves.

Mr. Karate

Potatoeman wrote: »

Do they realise that if there was a communist revolution, the first thing that they would do when they get into power is kill the anarchists? The two things are diametrically opposed.

Shows you what a whitewashed view of Communism and Socialism that they're taught now.

nthclare

Potatoeman wrote: »

Do they realise that if there was a communist revolution, the first thing that they would do when they get into power is kill the anarchists? The two things are diametrically opposed.

I'm thinking of doing night courses in sociology and cultural studies.
Because it's very interesting.

I think people can get on if they've good intentions and are living in a place where the people around them are stable and accept the law's of the land.
And the law's respect those who are willing to adhere to the principles of a just society.

I had enough of suburbia in the early 00's and moved to the Burren and started all over.
Left the toil and trouble's of town.

I don't know what it's like living in towns and cities anymore.

I remember when the Nigerian's moved to Ennis in the 90's and they really settled into the community and so did the Romanians they just love Ennis and have as much opportunity as everyone else.
They were able to absorb into the social fabric of a rural town in the west of Ireland, start up businesses and integrate with the locals.

What ever those who help migrants in Clare do it's a credit to the country.

A Clare man started up the rural development project too, giving good honest people from the inner city and leafy suburbs an opportunity to relocate to Clare.

We're well ahead of the possy that's for sure.

Brian?

Potatoeman wrote: »

Do they realise that if there was a communist revolution, the first thing that they would do when they get into power is kill the anarchists? The two things are diametrically opposed.

What has this got to do with Antifa? Antifa aren't communist.

Snake Plisken

This is disgraceful. Bastard should be arrested
Wouldn't go down well if a white man made a black woman kneel down now would it!
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1267825620194492420?s=19

Snake Plisken

Snake Plisken wrote: »

This is disgraceful. Bastard should be arrested
Wouldn't go down well if a white man made a black woman kneel down now would it!
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1267825620194492420?s=19

That seems entirely staged... Also there's no "CEO" of black lives matter after a quick Google.

Snake Plisken

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That seems entirely staged... Also there's no "CEO" of black lives matter after a quick Google.

Of course it is everything is staged for you Antifa supporters! The woman is frightened for her life!

Brian?

Snake Plisken wrote: »

This is disgraceful. Bastard should be arrested
Wouldn't go down well if a white man made a black woman kneel down now would it!
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1267825620194492420?s=19

What has this, admittedly bizarre, video got to do with Antifa?

Snake Plisken

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Of course it is everything is staged for you Antifa supporters! The woman is frightened for her life!

Well I traced it back to the creator and all indications are it's an idiot who thought it was entertaining satire.(he has other videos of randomly harassing people on the street in some bad candid camera style) The "CEO of Black Lives Matter" was nonsense... Also I become a supporter of Antifa because I very much so support Black Lives Matter?

https://twitter.com/SanchezSmooth/status/1267692633100636161?s=19

https://youtu.be/hmkVKdYSxro

Pa ElGrande

Brian? wrote: »

What has this got to do with Antifa? Antifa aren't communist.

Using any single label, like anarchists, communists, extreme leftists, socialists, and so on will not be completely true of all people in ANTIFA. Each label will capture a certain element. Thinking of ANTIFA as anti-fascist is misleading and inaccurate for two reasons. One is that ANTIFA uses fascist means, such as ganging up on its chosen opponents, taking to street brawls, the use of extreme violence, and suppressing speech. The other being their use of the term fascist to mean the existing society and government where they find themselves. They are anti-capitalist, which means anti-free enterprise, anti-free markets, and anti-private property.

ANTIFA is a collection of people who use violent means to foster anarchy and revolution, the goal being to replace existing society and government by leftist systems that are Maoist, Marxist, communist, or whatever flavour of socialist they prefer to label themselves as.

ShatterAlan

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Of course it is everything is staged for you Antifa supporters! The woman is frightened for her life!

Can you actually identify "antifa"?


There is no such organisation.

There does seem to be a lot of antifa pages on facebook though..

Pa ElGrande

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Using any single label, like anarchists, communists, extreme leftists, socialists, and so on will not be completely true of all people in ANTIFA. Each label will capture a certain element. Thinking of ANTIFA as anti-fascist is misleading and inaccurate for two reasons. One is that ANTIFA uses fascist means, such as ganging up on its chosen opponents, taking to street brawls, the use of extreme violence, and suppressing speech. The other being their use of the term fascist to mean the existing society and government where they find themselves. They are anti-capitalist, which means anti-free enterprise, anti-free markets, and anti-private property.

ANTIFA is a collection of people who use violent means to foster anarchy and revolution, the goal being to replace existing society and government by leftist systems that are Maoist, Marxist, communist, or whatever flavour of socialist they prefer to label themselves as.

Black Lives Matter came into being because of a huge issue with police brutality and discrimination by the authorities. The poster posted the video because he has a gripe with them too. But ironically he managed to highly poorly sourced videos that purport to be something that they're not.

Mr. Karate

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Can you actually identify "antifa"?


There is no such organisation.

They have a logo, flag,etc so there clearly is some structure to them in place. The notion this is just a bunch of yobs with nothing better to do is false.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

They have a logo, flag,etc so there clearly is some structure to them in place. The notion this is just a bunch of yobs with nothing better to do is false.

That doesn't really mean much. The logo goes back to WW2 btw so it's a slightly adapted version of that and seems to be plenty of variations of it. So a person with a copy of photoshop and sharing the image doesn't create an organisation. :pac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Can you explain their power structure, who their leaders are etc?

suicide_circus

there are far more Antifas than there are Fas. In Germany fair enough there is a neo nazi movement but in terms of actual literal fascists in the US, they're pretty thin on the ground. From what i can see these people are Anticas - anti capitalists.

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

That doesn't really mean much. The logo goes back to WW2 btw so it's a slightly adapted version of that and seems to be plenty of variations of it. So a person with a copy of photoshop and sharing the image doesn't create an organisation. :pac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Can you explain their power structure, who their leaders are etc?

Its doesn't matter. Somebody clearly had it made so there is some sense of an organization in place.

Overheal

nthclare wrote: »

Do you support terrorism and Antifa ?

You did a good job there trying to inexorably link one to the other.

Do you support rape and abortions?

Overheal

Snake Plisken wrote: »

This is disgraceful. Bastard should be arrested
Wouldn't go down well if a white man made a black woman kneel down now would it!
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1267825620194492420?s=19

Clear example of street side spoofing. Same category as idiots who ask pedestrians to find Australia on a shuffled map and call it research

boetstark

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Didn't say its OK, but whites don't get anywhere near the same level of harassment as the black communities do, so words are meaningless sometimes, actions have caused this reaction. It's the casual racism that is completely wrong, this has to be the beginning of any discussion on a fairer system or any hope for positive change.

Maybe not in the USA, but are we saying your life matters depending on your skin colour and where you live.

FVP3

Brian? wrote: »

Car drives through some people and you're happy?

I'm duty bound to ask again: Aside from the word "Antifa" in the tweet, how do we know those people were Antifa?

How do we know that anarchists are ever anarchists. There's no leadership.

Actually there's no leadership of the entire BLM movement as far as I can see. People dont even give speeches. Just walk and protest.

( That said I may have missed some speeches as I just watch some videos taken later, mostly of riots).

Overheal

FVP3 wrote: »

How do we know that anarchists are ever anarchists. There's no leadership.

Actually there's no leadership of the entire BLM movement as far as I can see. People dont even give speeches. Just walk and protest.

( That said I may have missed some speeches as I just watch some videos taken later, mostly of riots).

Mostly a culmination of different people being handed the megaphone to say things.

Annasopra

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Its doesn't matter. Somebody clearly had it made so there is some sense of an organization in place.

So thats a no.

suicide_circus

i'm plagiarizing a tweet i saw here but

Antifa are anti fascists - its in the name.

The Democratic Republic of North Korea is democratic - its in the name.

Brian?

Akesh wrote: »

I think the most disturbing aspect of Antifa is the people who make up these 'groups' have absolutely no morals whatsoever. Like a lot of 'activist' groups they tar anyone who is critical of them as a fascist. They are at the extreme end of indoctrination and will do and say anything that furthers the cause, which again isn't clear because the majority of people who identify as aligning themselves with Antifa have no real idea what fascism is or what they are actually against. I hope other countries follow suit and designate these dangerous degenerates as terrorists.

I think he most disturbing thing about Antifa is that they disappear any time asks for proof of their existence.

Despite the prevalence of camera phones no one can produce a single video of their involvement in the current riots. Despite the fact we are continually told they are orchestrating the whole thing.

SchrodingersCat

"The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence
Trump wants to designate antifa a terrorist organization, despite lack of authority and evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

Looks like Trump, Barr and Fox news lied when they tried to make Antifa a bogeyman.

nthclare

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

"The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence
Trump wants to designate antifa a terrorist organization, despite lack of authority and evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

Looks like Trump, Barr and Fox news lied when they tried to make Antifa a bogeyman.

Well let's find out who the Bogey men are, if it's clear that Antifa are a bunch of misfits and odd ball's, mostly **** too.

Blame it on the boggie ?

Throwing toy's out of the buggy..

What's a simple solution ?