Willie Frazer has died

McMurphy

janfebmar wrote: »

You were caught out, as I pointed out even Ian Paisley considered himself Irish, so how could Willie Frazer have hated the Irish?

I repeat.

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Did you just quote me where I typed out Catholic and Irish, and then go on to some pedantry about Ian the free Presbyterian Paisley

Odhinn

janfebmar wrote: »

Did not open your link, ......................

How convenient.

The director of the controversial Gun Owners of America organization has advocated that the protestants of South Armagh should be armed. Larry Pratt, who visited South Armagh at the invitation of the victims group, Families Acting for Innocent Relatives (FAIR), said, "I would argue that if people are armed it is a deterrent to criminals and terrorists."
Pratt is well known in the US, where he was forced to stand down as campaign chairman to republican presidential candidate, Pat Buchanan in 1996 because of his links with white supremacist groups. He admitted sharing a platform a with former Ku Klux Klan leader and an Aryan nation official. He has also been associated with the rightwing extremists of the US militia movement.
FAIR spokesman, Willie Frazer, escorted Pratt on his tour of South Armagh. Frazer is a well known Orangeman who has said loyalist paramilitaries "should never have been locked up." He defended members of the security forces who passed information to loyalists. His application for a personal protection weapon was turned down.

http://www.nuzhound.com/articles/Sunday_Tribune/arts2004/apr25_IMC_Pratt_FAIR__SMcKay.php


You approve of the klan and white supremacists being given a platform in NI?



Why have you failed to condemn Willies sectarianism, racism?


What do you think of willie fiddling the books of a charity for victims?





Why do you think he failed to come to the aid of protestant victims of the UVF?

janfebmar

_blaaz wrote: »

Except he didnt....his group.was set up for innocent victims of republican violence (nothing wrong with this btw)

He was approached by family of a catholic killed by republicans and didnt attend meetings/help.them out??

He did attend meetings and spoke out for all victims of Republican violence. He also had hundreds of death threats made against him by Republicans, had his car set alight and destroyed, his house attacked etc.

Odhinn

janfebmar wrote: »

They were, according to the link, not killed in his bar, and it was not his uvf bar, and the families did not have to go to SF, the murderers were caught and prosecuted and jailed by the forces of the state.

They were targeted in the Bar by the UVF. They were taken from the bar by the UVF. Willie Frazer owned the Bar. Willie Frazer was refused a gun licence because he was an associate of the UVF.



Yes, the Father of one of the victims did indeed get aid from SF because willie wouldn't go against his UVF pals who hung around in his UVF bar and yes, he owned it.


Why have you failed to condemn Willies sectarianism, racism?


What do you think of willie fiddling the books of a charity for victims?

Odhinn

janfebmar wrote: »

He did attend meetings and spoke out for all victims of Republican violence. He also had hundreds of death threats made against him by Republicans, had his car set alight and destroyed, his house attacked etc.

....this would be the same time he received "death threats" that seemed to (a) not have been posted and (b) been in what appeared to be his own handwriting?

_blaaz

janfebmar wrote: »

He did attend meetings and spoke out for all victims of Republican violence. .

Not for this family who approached him....i know family involved



Your full of rubbish mate,he wouldnt speak out for innocent catholics killed by the ira

Didnt attend meetings,wouldnt help this family,who located closer than alot of victim movement meetibgs he attended and aided....why is that??

janfebmar

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I repeat.

I repeat you were caught out, as I pointed out even Ian Paisley considered himself Irish, so how could Willie Frazer have hated the Irish, as you claimed?

Before 6 members of his family were murdered by Republicans, it is said Frazer played GAA for a year.

janfebmar

_blaaz wrote: »

Your full of rubbish mate,he wouldnt speak out for innocent catholics killed by the ira

I am sure he would have condemned all murders by the IRA, there were catholics in the security forces who were murdered, he condemned those murders / killings / call them what you want.

_blaaz

janfebmar wrote: »

I am sure he would have condemned all murders by the IRA, there were catholics in the security forces who were murdered, he condemned those murders / killings / call them what you want.

And yet he wouldnt speak out for innocent catbolics killed by the ira (this is what his victim.group was set up for)




Hes pocketing grant money for his victims organisation,yet wouldnt speak out for or assist families of victims he purported to represent


How is that?


Cheer him.all yous want...hes a bigot who.wouldnt speak out.or assist familes of catholics killed by the ira

Junkyard Tom

Herself is literally boards.ie's version of Willie Frazer. Motivated by deep-seated bitterness and impenetrable anti-Republican/Nationalist/Gael fanaticism.

Just ignore.

Odhinn

janfebmar wrote: »

I am sure he would have condemned all murders by the IRA, there were catholics in the security forces who were murdered, he condemned those murders / killings / call them what you want.

Yet he said that members of the UVF should never have been arrested. Logically that means he did not see all victims as equal

McMurphy

janfebmar wrote: »

I repeat you were caught out, as I pointed out even Ian Paisley considered himself Irish, so how could Willie Frazer have hated the Irish, as you claimed?

Catholic and Irish. Do you have reading comprehension issues, or are you some kind of bot? You do understand what an Irish Catholic is yeah?

Before 6 members of his family were murdered by Republicans, it is said Frazer played GAA for a year.

It is said......



That clears that up so.

FrancieBrady

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Herself is literally boards.ie's version of Willie Frazer. Motivated by deep-seated bitterness and impenetrable anti-Republican/Nationalist/Gael fanaticism.

Just ignore.

Willie will never be dead as long as Janfebmar is posting.

RIP Willie, genuinely hope he found some peace before his time came. He became a figure of fun because he simply couldn't rationalise his bigotry and hatred.

boetstark

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Good riddance, rotten scumbag.



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Your posts are so predictable. I presume you are a Roman catholic, figures.

the dark phantom

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Willie will never be dead as long as Janfebmar is posting.

RIP Willie, genuinely hope he found some peace before his time came. He became a figure of fun because he simply couldn't rationalise his bigotry and hatred.

Jamie Bryson has big boots to fill but sure only a protege of oor wullie should be able enough to successfully walk in wullies footsteps. :pac:

Fan of Netflix

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

BS when Seamus McGrane died recently loyalists were salivating online even Rangers fans in Scotland spewing bile....

And it was even worse when Martin McElkerney killed himself in May. It was like Christmas in PUL circles. Its actually a very regular thing from PUL community.

don't have to be a loyalist to jeer the death of childkillers

lunatics and murderers on both sides and plenty of people well able to make their own minds up about them

An Claidheamh

boetstark wrote: »

Your posts are so predictable. I presume you are a Roman catholic, figures.

???

That post is so deranged and bizarre.

I assume you're a tangerine.

An Claidheamh

boetstark wrote: »

Your posts are so predictable. I presume you are a Roman catholic, figures.

You won't like the Ireland Simpsons Fan page posts about this topic then gammon.

They must be Catholics as well

JohnnyFlash

These threads always descend into the same bitter old farce that every thread about Norn Ireland invariably does. With the same bitter old heads appearing in every one of them. What an enormous waste of time.

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

These threads always descend into the same bitter old farce that every thread about Norn Ireland invariably does. With the same bitter old heads appearing in every one of them. What an enormous waste of time.

You sound very eh...bitter about it all.

JohnnyFlash

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You sound very eh...bitter about it all.

Not at all, dude. It’s just the same few heads are having the same dull and tedious arguments they’ve had in about 5000 other threads about Norn Iron. It’s a spectacularly poor way to spend ones time. Just pointing that out to you all. Go for a walk or something.

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Not at all, dude. It’s just the same few heads are having the same dull and tedious arguments they’ve had in about 5000 other threads about Norn Iron. It’s a spectacularly poor way to spend ones time. Just pointing that out to you all. Go for a walk or something.

Thousands of threads here for you to find something that interests you. Thousands that I would find spectacularly poor interest in, but I wouldn't have the level of stupidity necessary to go on to those threads to say that.

boetstark

An Claidheamh wrote: »

???

That post is so deranged and bizarre.

I assume you're a tangerine.

Point is poster is so upset over Frazers hatred of Catholics, he must be a catholic himself.
Calling somebody who is just deceased a rotten scumbag is in my opinion unchristian. I find alot of Catholics are uncharitable horrible hypocrites who would be hard pressed to identify a bible

janfebmar

boetstark wrote: »

Point is poster is so upset over Frazers hatred of Catholics, he must be a catholic himself.
Calling somebody who is just deceased a rotten scumbag is in my opinion unchristian. I find alot of Catholics are uncharitable horrible hypocrites who would be hard pressed to identify a bible

Indeed it is interesting to note when a spokesperson for protestant victims of the Pira dies, they make up lies about him and call him every name under the sun etc. Even though he was never even a paramilitary or was Never suspected or proven to have commited a crime. Twice, in the past month on hearing news of the death of leaders of paramilitaries I thought back to the old adage " if you cannot think of something good to say about someone, say nothing".

Odhinn

janfebmar wrote: »

Indeed it is interesting to note when a spokesperson for protestant victims of the Pira dies, they make up lies about him and call him every name under the sun etc. Even though he was never even a paramilitary or was Never suspectex or proven to have commited a crime. Twice, in the past month on hearing news of the death of leaders of paramilitaries I thought back to the old adage " if you cannot think of something good to say about someone, say nothing".

This would be the guy that owned a bar used by the UVF, was refused a firearms licence as he associated with the UVF, said the UVF should never have had its members jailed?


Why won't you condemn the fact willie frazer fiddled the books of his charity?

janfebmar

Odhinn wrote: »

This would be the guy that owned a bar used by the UVF, was refused a firearms licence as he associated with the UVF, said the UVF should never have had its members ...?

If you own a bar how are you to know who some of your customers may have been sometimes? Most people in N Ireland are refused a licence for a handgun for obvious reasons...Only those who really need one for personal protection get one, usually certain government employees.

He did hate Republicans, not surprising as they killed so many of his family and friends, but at least he did not order others to go out and commit an Enniskillen or a Kingsmill.

An Claidheamh

boetstark wrote: »

Point is poster is so upset over Frazers hatred of Catholics, he must be a catholic himself.
Calling somebody who is just deceased a rotten scumbag is in my opinion unchristian. I find alot of Catholics are uncharitable horrible hypocrites who would be hard pressed to identify a bible

LMAO

You're a hypocrite and a bigot. You sound like something from the 17th century.

In the real world, people don't need to be Catholics to be against sectarianism.

The Orange Order and their ilk are not Christian, nor are the KKK.

Funny I find, British Protestants to delusional, insular and backward, with no influence in the world.

Britain even tries to pretend there are no Protestants anymore. Just Catholics and Muslims.

Fortunately, Norn Iron/British superstitions and dress up is dieing out.

Let's hope the ones who stay in Ireland can actually read a Bible.

janfebmar

Odhinn wrote: »

Why won't you condemn the fact willie frazer fiddled the books of his charity?

A man is innocent until proven guilty.

An Claidheamh

janfebmar wrote: »

He did hate Republicans, not surprising as they killed so many of his family and friends, but at least he did not order others to go out and commit an Enniskillen or a Kingsmill.

Yeah, at least he didn't do that....


Will he be getting a military funeral, or will the British state he loved so much* pretend he never existed?

*He spent half his time in his capital Dublin, complaining outside Facebook HQ

janfebmar

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Yeah, at least he didn't do that....


Will he be getting a military funeral, or will the British state he loved so much* pretend he never existed?

*He spent half his time in his capital Dublin, complaining outside Facebook HQ

Who are you talking about? I never even mentioned the names of the 2 patriots who died this month.