Willie Frazer has died

SharpshooterTom

Victims campaigner Willie Frazer has died. He was 58.

He was the founder of Families Acting for Innocent Relatives (Fair), a group set up in 1998 to support victims of republican violence.

Mr Frazer stood down from the group in 2012 after its funding was frozen.

His father Bertie, a part-time member of the Ulster Defence Regiment, was killed in an IRA gun attack in 1975. He was one of several family members murdered by republicans.

Mr Frazer was also involved in the flag protests at Belfast City Hall after the council decided only to fly the union flag on designated days in 2012.

He faced several allegations of misspending cash given to his victims group with funding being withdrawn more than once. He dismissed the claims as political.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48705602

Couldn't stand the guys politics and thought he often poisened the debate the NI, founding extremist groups like the protestant coalition, but he was a victim of the troubles and clearly his views were affected by his father's murder and I don't wish his family any ill will. RIP.

The Satanist

Okay

davycc

Don't tease me op!

the dark phantom

Willie obviously had mental issues related to the troubles but he always said straight out what was on his mind, I always got a great laugh off his facebook rants, for humour alone he will be sadly missed.

SharpshooterTom

the dark phantom wrote: »

Willie obviously had mental issues related to the troubles but he always said straight out what was on his mind, I always got a great laugh off his facebook rants, for humour alone he will be sadly missed.

_blaaz

One bigot less (condolences to his family though)



A massive move forward for community relations......but he did raise some valid points about his fathers killing.....but went looking for answers off the wrong people imo

SEPT 23 1989

David Ervine was the biggest loss to the working class Protestant people of Northern Ireland

Had he been still alive things would be very different today

This head case dragged his community backwards

UDAWINNER

One less bigot in the world, won't be missed and hopes he rots in hell

Odhinn

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

David Ervine was the biggest loss to the working class Protestant people of Northern Ireland

Had he been still alive things would be very different today

This head case dragged his community backwards

A protestant lad from a loyalist background was murdered by the UVF (as far as I remember) in Frazers area. Willy, far too concerned with keeping in with his UVF buddies, was of no assistance to the family and they had to go to the SF represenative for help.

Allinall

It’s a shame Ali isn’t still around.

He would have wanted to go to the funeral.

Boxing.Fan

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

PCeeeee

I disagreed with almost everything Willie had to say.

I disagree with this thread equally, nothing good will come out of it. Leave the man alone now, it's only his people left to be hurt.

OldMrBrennan83

Good riddance, rotten scumbag.



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Fan of Netflix

Bigoted scumbag. No ****ing loss at all. One less orange supremacist in the world.

Galwayguy35

He is gone now having added nothing positive to society.

Doubt his idol Lizzie Windsor even knew who he was.

RocketRaccoon

Isn't it funny seeing people wishing him to rot and calling him a bigot for his beliefs failing to see the irony and hypocrisy they are spewing?

Not just here BTW, other social media also.

RobbingBandit

Ulster says no one cares

OldMrBrennan83

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Isn't it funny seeing people wishing him to rot and calling him a bigot for his beliefs failing to see the irony and hypocrisy they are spewing?

Not just here BTW, other social media also.

There's no sentiment low enough for him.

DEFTLEFTHAND

He indulged an intersting fact once in an interview with Pat Kenny.

He played Gaelic football for a year as a teen. He said it was a great game.


Billy Wright was another orange supremacist who played club football up to minor level in south Armagh.

RocketRaccoon

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

There's no sentiment low enough for him.

I could say the same about the likes of Gerry Adams.

I am in no way political, have zero interest in any of them. They're all as bad as each other IMO, posts and chat like this just annoy me though.

Allinall

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

There's no sentiment low enough for him.

Fair play.

At least your trying.

OldMrBrennan83

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I could say the same about the likes of Gerry Adams.

I am in no way political, have zero interest in any of them. They're all as bad as each other IMO, posts and chat like this just annoy me though.

Ah well.

_blaaz

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

He indulged an intersting fact once in an interview with Pat Kenny.

He played Gaelic football for a year as a teen. He said it was a great game.


Billy Wright was another orange supremacist who played club football up to minor level in south Armagh.

One of headmen in the lvf was a catholic

buried

None of them spew up from the ground of their own accord.
You put a state sanctioned bootheel on the collective throats of half your society, expect the reckoning.

EmmetSpiceland

Odhinn wrote: »

A protestant lad from a loyalist background was murdered by the UVF (as far as I remember) in Frazers area. Willy, far too concerned with keeping in with his UVF buddies, was of no assistance to the family and they had to go to the SF represenative for help.

That’s mad, shame SF won’t help the families locate the bodies of those that their “bosses” killed.

tayto lover

Silly Frazier dead???
I didn’t see that flegged anywhere.

RocketRaccoon

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

You obviously have no clue who he is. One of the biggest bigots on this island. A horrible scumbag. Fcuk Frazer, even he mocked grieving families of Catholics who died. Wasn't he one of the dirtbags behind the Love Ulster riot in Dublin? Some legacy he has.

See my post above re Gerry Adams.

Boxing.Fan

"It was the IRA gave me cancer so it was" - Wullie frazier

Odhinn

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

That’s mad, shame SF won’t help the families locate the bodies of those that their “bosses” killed.

...there's been confidential co-operation for years, but the fact is that many of those involved in the killings and burial were either killed or died.

Fan of Netflix

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

See my post above re Gerry Adams.

Whataboutery at it's finest. This thread is about Willie Frazer. You can be sure Adams will be getting plenty of abuse when he passes by the same types defending Frazer.

Allinall

Odhinn wrote: »

...there's been confidential co-operation for years, but the fact is that many of those involved in the killings and burial were either killed or died.

How do you know, if it’s confidential?

Odhinn

Allinall wrote: »

How do you know, if it’s confidential?

The Independent Commission for the Location of Victims' Remains (ICLVR) is established by a treaty between the British and Irish governments. The commission's purpose is to obtain information that may lead to where the remains of the Disappeared are buried. Information given to the commission is strictly confidential and is not passed to other agencies or used in prosecutions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-24812052

OldMrBrennan83

Odhinn wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-24812052

I'd say they'll be raging you had a valid answer

NIMAN

One loon less.

Wonder what he died of? He was only 58.

padd b1975

They'll be breathing a sigh of relief in The Ivory Coast tonight.

Odhinn

NIMAN wrote: »

One loon less.

Wonder what he died of? He was only 58.

Cancer. I take no pleasure in the manner of his death nor wish that he suffered in any fashion.

Allinall

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I'd say they'll be raging you had a valid answer

Apoplectic with indifference.

Mrcaramelchoc

Anyone else think he was a boxer?

Allinall

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if holding onto so much hatred contributed to it. It can not be healthy.

If that was the case, half the posters on this thread wouldn’t be around.

Hamsterchops

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

Classlessness, moronic, and tasteless in the extreme :rolleyes:
What a Wally boxing fan, honestly what a stupid post.

Mad_maxx

Sounds like he suffered a lot, that turns many people strange

RocketRaccoon

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Whataboutery at it's finest. This thread is about Willie Frazer. You can be sure Adams will be getting plenty of abuse when he passes by the same types defending Frazer.

And the people giving out about Frazer for his beliefs will jump to the defence of Adams. Its like some sort of mentally challenged swings and roundabouts.

Gimme A Pound

the dark phantom wrote: »

Willie obviously had mental issues related to the troubles but he always said straight out what was on his mind, I always got a great laugh off his facebook rants, for humour alone he will be sadly missed.

What is so great about saying what's on your mind if it's hate filled? Bizarrely contrarian.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

David Ervine was the biggest loss to the working class Protestant people of Northern Ireland

Had he been still alive things would be very different today

This head case dragged his community backwards

Ervine was once a loyalist paramilitary.

McMurphy

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48705602

Couldn't stand the guys politics and thought he often poisened the debate the NI, founding extremist groups like the protestant coalition, but he was a victim of the troubles and clearly his views were affected by his father's murder and I don't wish his family any ill will. RIP.

I would like to think I'm bigger than him, so I will just post here to say R.I.P

seamus

Good riddance.

Dyr

Whatever he was in life, let him be in death.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

retalivity

His death reminded me of Loyalists Against Democracy (LAD) on fb and twitter, they were hilarious winding him up and posting his inane ramblings. Wonder why they stopped posting anything in the last year...

Dyr

retalivity wrote: »

His death reminded me of Loyalists Against Democracy (LAD) on fb and twitter, they were hilarious winding him up and posting his inane ramblings. Wonder why they stopped posting anything in the last year...

LAD are still going strong

Stephen15

Shame he'll never get to live in a United Ireland

Sky Blue 20

Strange that the Repulicans show no class on the death of a person. Infact it's not strange at all.
When the sainted Martin died he was plauded by Unionists even though he was a mass murderer.
Class can't be bought.