Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

jjmcclure

The Nal wrote: »

This is good comedy

https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1316646019745099776

Loving the Journals work at the moment

FactCheck: Many of the claims made about Covid-19 in a leaflet sent to Dublin households are false or misleading

Very sad. Clearly mentally ill. This will end badly for Gem I'd guess. Probably similar to the cat lady from the Simpsons.

Widdensushi

OSI wrote: »

Owner of one of the cringier election posters seen at the last GE:

She be a house, house for mental health. People can object and protest without coming across as toxic, those 2 are well matched, Gemma has the 'we are paying your wages' line burnt out, she needs new material at this stage.

L1011

GT89 wrote: »

Hardly surprising when no had heard of her. People who think the likes of the National Party, ACI, IFP etc. get no votes because everyone hates their policies is delusional they get no votes because no has ever heard of them and they don't have the budget that larger political parties have.

Random Independents that didn't campaign got more votes than her.

Look elsewhere for why she didn't get votes, and why the parties you listed didn't get votes either.

E mac

Has John Waters ditched her? Doesn't seem to be hanging around her much any more.

gmisk

E mac wrote: »

Has John Waters ditched her? Doesn't seem to be hanging around her much any more.

Nope plenty of recent videos of him sitting beside her starring into space contemplating how low he has sunk to be listening to her lunacy

Birneybau

gmisk wrote: »

Nope plenty of recent videos of him starring into space contemplating how low he has sunk to be listening to her lunacy

First Sinead O'Connor, and now this wan!

pjohnson

gmisk wrote: »

Nope plenty of recent videos of him sitting beside her starring into space contemplating how low he has sunk to be listening to her lunacy

They make a cute couple :pac:

NIMAN

I notice how she shouts FAKE NEWS a lot in any clips I have seen.

Obviously a fan of Trump.

So she thought it was fake news that Aaron Brady shot that guard?

I wonder does she think the earth is flat too? She is now on that level of stupid.

E mac

gmisk wrote: »

Nope plenty of recent videos of him sitting beside her starring into space contemplating how low he has sunk to be listening to her lunacy

How has Jim Corr not joined in yet! He would seem like a better "fit" to Gemma's world view

GT89

TaurenDruid wrote: »

And Aontú and the Social Democrats were in the same position last election and managed 1% and 3%, getting people elected. Many independents with no budget got elected, too...

Both set up by ex TDs of other parties so fairly well known. Social Democrats get taxpayer funding not sure about Aontu but NP and ACI do not.

Most independents that get elected are either ex members of political parties or councillors.

GT89

GT89 wrote: »

Both set up by ex TDs of other parties so fairly well known. Social Democrats get taxpayer funding not sure about Aontu but NP and ACI do not.

Most independents that get elected are either ex members of political parties or councillors.

Simple reason for the numbers they have in the dail and elsewhere. They have policies that people actually vote for and they aren't out and out scrotes like the national party and ACI

GT89

DubInMeath wrote: »

Simple reason for the numbers they have in the dail and elsewhere. They have policies that people actually vote for and they aren't out and out scrotes like the national party and ACI

Could've said the same about Trump prior to 2016. People voted for him becuase they were so disillusioned with mainstream politicians.

Eventually when people get so disillusioned with mainstream politicans they will be pushed over the edge and vote for "far right nazi" candidates the same has happened with the rise of populism across Europe. We see Salvini in Italy, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, Vox in Spain, Wilders in the Netherlands etc.

pjohnson

GT89 wrote: »

Could've said the same about Trump prior to 2016. People voted for him becuase they were so disillusioned with mainstream politicians.

Eventually when people get so disillusioned with mainstream politicans they will be pushed over the edge and vote for "far right nazi" candidates the same has happened with the rise of populism across Europe. We see Salvini in Italy, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, Vox in Spain, Wilders in the Netherlands etc.

Well they've been spreading their shíte for years. And while they may appear popular on this site in the real world the Irish population wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

ohnonotgmail

GT89 wrote: »

Could've said the same about Trump prior to 2016. People voted for him becuase they were so disillusioned with mainstream politicians.

Trump had the backing of the GOP

GT89 wrote: »

Eventually when people get so disillusioned with mainstream politicans they will be pushed over the edge and vote for "far right nazi" candidates the same has happened with the rise of populism across Europe. We see Salvini in Italy, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, Vox in Spain, Wilders in the Netherlands etc.

most of which have seen their support plummet recently.

GT89

pjohnson wrote: »

Well they've been spreading their shíte for years. And while they may appear popular on this site in the real world the Irish population wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

When migrant crime goes throught the roof which it will if we do not toughen our stance on immigration. People will start voting for anyone who will try to sort it out if those people are Gemma or the NP they will vote for them regardless.

Multiculturalism has failed in every country it has be tried it will fail here also.

pjohnson

GT89 wrote: »

When migrant crime goes throught the roof which it will if we do not toughen our stance on immigration. People will start voting for anyone who will try to sort it out if those people are Gemma or the NP they will vote for them regardless.

Multiculturalism has failed in every country it has be tried it will fail here also.

I think this has been pedalled since 2016.......still not got them votes.

ArmaniJeanss

GT89 wrote: »

Most independents that get elected are either ex members of political parties or councillors.

I suspect you think this is a bad thing, using the council as a stepping stone to the Dail?
It's actually the way these fringe candidates should have approached it, rather than thinking that going straight for the Dail, EUP or even the Presidency is the way to do it.
Work bloody hard for no money in a ward of a constituency for 2 years before the local elections, get on the council, build your core vote, spread the message into other parts of the constituency. Serve your time, lose narrowly in a general election, get in on the next one.

Too many of them feel entitled to be Master of the Universe after 2000 posts on facebook and 10 minutes on the telly.

GT89

GT89 wrote: »

Could've said the same about Trump prior to 2016. People voted for him becuase they were so disillusioned with mainstream politicians.

Eventually when people get so disillusioned with mainstream politicans they will be pushed over the edge and vote for "far right nazi" candidates the same has happened with the rise of populism across Europe. We see Salvini in Italy, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, Vox in Spain, Wilders in the Netherlands etc.

Some will but they tend to be a bit thick or end up regretting it.
The one thing about Trump getting his shot, was that he emboldened the likes of those you quoted into thinking that they might have a chance, but the way he's fu*ked things up so that it's mainly conspiracy theory believers and out and out arseholes who support him without question.
Le Pen as an example, got rid of her father from the party and brought in policies that more people would vote for, such as civil partnership for same sex couples, but blew it with the usual screw ups and familiar habit of being involved financially with Russian banks which didn't go down to well with a lot of French people.

NovemberWren

GT89 wrote: »

When migrant crime goes throught the roof which it will if we do not toughen our stance on immigration. People will start voting for anyone who will try to sort it out if those people are Gemma or the NP they will vote for them regardless.

Multiculturalism has failed in every country it has be tried it will fail here also.

not sure it has failed; though for some maybe - but when indigenous people are failed by the State also, the State does not give a tot.

It's that 'up to 50 billion euros' that chimes well with Fine Gael - who will be very happy to cater to immigrants; and the Fianna Fail investors will seep down State money for their investor houses, that is the roof for immigrants.

Trump may win, [i'm ok with that]; But, the u.s.a. is gonna' focus on their own industry as, the Dollar, after all, is their currency. Here, do Ireland make the mistake of not completely understanding that here is not a State of the u.s.a.? Is Ireland ready for that reality?

Wibbs

pjohnson wrote: »

I think this has been pedalled since 2016.......still not got them votes.

Yup, because Gemma and her ilk come across as halfwits and Mary screeching from Facebook gone mental. They offer no alternative for mainstream Ireland. The same mainstream Ireland wants centrists and old faves, with centre right sometimes and centre left other times(with a large side order of parochial interest). Our default is middle of the road, it'll be grand, which is a good thing, as it has meant we've tended to avoid the extremes down the years. I can't see that changing except maybe in some urban areas which are more likely to feel the shocks of recession and competition for resources.

whippet

Arch Bishop Martin is on Pat Kenny's show at the moment and seems to be making reference to Gem's crew and their weird notions and actions outside Croke Park a few weeks ago .... lets see how she will go full mental attacking him online now

brightspark

whippet wrote:

Arch Bishop Martin is on Pat Kenny's show at the moment and seems to be making reference to Gem's crew and their weird notions and actions outside Croke Park a few weeks ago .... lets see how she will go full mental attacking him online now

Isn't he already in her bad books for attending the Eid in Croke Park?

whippet

brightspark wrote: »

Isn't he already in her bad books for attending the Eid in Croke Park?

that was what he was referencing

Birneybau

brightspark wrote: »

Isn't he already in her bad books for attending the Eid in Croke Park?

He's claiming the Gem-Bots tried to overturn his car.

Some of those who took part in these anti-mask demonstrations were the same groups that attempted to overturn my car when I attended an Islamic gathering in Croke Park.

https://www.thejournal.ie/diarmuid-martin-5234810-Oct2020/

Seth Brundle

For someone who got upset when a member of the public followed her whilst asking questions, she apparently has grown to like it...
https://twitter.com/PatriciaMAC10/status/1316672045430845442

Hotblack Desiato

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

As someone said here earlier she’s now gone full westboro Baptist church , we’ll know the game is up when Louis Theroux comes to visit her

I think he'd rather dig up Jimmy Savile and do an interview with his rotted corpse tbh. I know I would

Hotblack Desiato

NovemberWren wrote: »

It's that 'up to 50 billion euros' that chimes well with Fine Gael - who will be very happy to cater to immigrants;

What are you talking about?

Hotblack Desiato

GT89 wrote: »

Both set up by ex TDs of other parties so fairly well known. Social Democrats get taxpayer funding not sure about Aontu but NP and ACI do not.

Social Democrats do now, they didn't in 2016.
Renua (remember them?) got nobody elected in 2016, but still got state funding because they managed 2% of the national vote.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30930147.html

Most independents that get elected are either ex members of political parties or councillors.

You hit the nail on the head there, albeit unwittingly. The reason NP, ACI, IFP get nowhere, apart from their vile policies and repellent personalities, is that they can't be bothered actually doing the long and very hard work to succeed in politics - become active in their communities, voluntary bodies etc., get elected as a councillor, build an electoral base and only then try for the Dail. Instead you have Gems trying to get into the European Parliament in one leap! Mad.

The Nal

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

The reason NP, ACI, IFP get nowhere, apart from their vile policies and repellent personalities, is that they can't be bothered actually doing the long and very hard work to succeed in politics - become active in their communities, voluntary bodies etc., get elected as a councillor, build an electoral base and only then try for the Dail. Instead you have Gems trying to get into the European Parliament in one leap! Mad.

The problem is that the perception is that it worked for Trump. Just leap in with a load of noise and you'll get elected.

They don't seem to realise that Trump was mega famous for 35 years before he ran.

On that note, a lot of the Nationalist types now think Gemma is a left wing plant because of the amount of damage shes done to the "Nationalist movement".

humberklog

Gemma failed in the by ('19) and general (' 20) ections. Both of these she was running in North side constituencies having never done a tap of work in those constituencies previously and hasn't been seen out that way since. During the campaign trail she mostly went around these areas calling the them kips and calling anyone who wouldn't vote for her "Traitors".
This left most voters scratching their heads asking "who the **** is that mouthy posh bint slagging off my area?".

In the European election her image was very prominent on the side of buses. If anyone bothered to look her up out of general interest they would have found a candidate whose party line and message (their 10 pillars) weren't matching the candidates online rhetoric. What she says she and ACI stands for seldom matches what Gemma says in her online broadcasts. If a candidate doesn't campaign on the core principles of the party they founded then who is going to believe in them?

She failed in getting a nomination for the Presidential race as she was left looking for votes from people who distrusted her genuineness in the reasons for her appeal for their nomination. Panty Bliss and Sinn Fein were proved right in smelling a rat in this instance.

Gemma failed in her election bids because she lacks sincerity. She is a bad liar that overestimates herself and underestimates everyone else.