Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

NKante

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155941248705761280

Donald stop posting idiotic tweets

Playing with their minds. They can't predict him, whereas their pet Obama was as predictably hopeless every single time.

Iran is rattled. Let's hope they don't miscalculate though.

Timberrrrrrrr

NKante wrote: »

Playing with their minds. They can't predict him, whereas their pet Obama was as predictably hopeless every single time.

Iran is rattled. Let's hope they don't miscalculate though.

What was the last war america won?

NKante

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What was the last war america won?

Iraq.

Timberrrrrrrr

NKante wrote: »

Iraq.

Nah, you're wrong on so many levels.

Cheerful Spring2

NKante wrote: »

Trump is playing an absolute blinder with Iran.

Iranians are expert at these sorts of tactical games and have easily given the wishy-washy Europeans and that hopeless Obama the run around.

In comes Trump. Used to playing hardball, knows how to leverage, negotiates with contractors and real estate all the time.

Suddenly the Iranians aren't looking as smart as before. They're confused and lashing out.

Iranians are good folks for the most part (40 years of state propaganda takes its toll and there are some real nutcases) and they deserve to rid themselves of this regime.

Sadly many of the left wing anti-west sorts seem to want to prop up one of the worst regimes in the world. Literally hanging gays from cranes in public with school children walking by. Absolute ****.

Really nope what have been you watching lately. Shooting and destroying military drones, tankers on fire, increased tension between navies in the region, Iran and UK doing piracy of tankers, increased Iranian enrichment of uranium. He is done nothing here to solve the crisis, he made it worse. Trump played this one stupidly and can go either way now. Trump after all blinked first and to be honest i think he made a wise decision, he be involving himself in far bigger war than the Iraq war. Soon or later Iran willl react even more severely if they try to cut their oil shipments to China or India. Iran already warned the build up of US and UK warships in strait of Hormuz is a provocative act, they might move to counter it if tensions keep up. Right now there is a slight decrease in tension, but only takes another trigger event and we back to crisis mode again.

Ecce No Homo

NKante wrote: »

Iraq.

You really are nKante

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Nah, you're wrong on so many levels.

But they did win both Iraq wars .

****ed up what came after ..

Sure weren't you there

NKante

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Nah, you're wrong on so many levels.

Well, they won the war as in they defeated the Iraqi army and the Hussein regime.

The policing thereafter was a bit tricky. But armies have never really excelled at policing.

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

But they did win both Iraq wars .

****ed up what came after ..

Sure weren't you there

1st war wasnt won by America it was won by a coalition of countries, America was on the winning team.

Iraq 2? You honestly call that a win?

Gatling

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Really nope what have been you watching lately. Shooting and destroying military drones, tankers on fire, increased tension between

Iran and doing piracy of tankers, increased Iranian enrichment of uranium.

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Trump after all blinked first and to be honest i think he made a wise decision, he be involving himself in far bigger war than the Iraq war. Soon or later Iran willl react even more severely

Trump didn't blink ,he well knew what he was doing he backed Iran into a corner where they either have to put up or shut up ,

They interfered with foreign tankers litttrally tried to sink several what were they planning to achieve??

Then they shot down the drone and got no real response bar having one or two of theirs taken out ,still no American military response a few extra ships ,
Oil prices haven't really increased either diminishing iran again .
You have isreali jets flying over teran for fecks sake
What have Iran gained in any of this nothing bar an empty ship they boarded and siezed .

They got nothing and yet they are losing due to tighter and tighter sanctions

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

Trump didn't blink ,he well knew what he was doing he backed Iran into a corner where they either have to put up or shut up ,

They interfered with foreign tankers allegedly tried to sink several what were they planning to achieve??

Then they shot down the drone and got no real response bar having one or two of theirs taken out ,still no American military response a few extra ships ,
Oil prices haven't really increased either diminishing iran again .
You have isreali jets flying over teran for fecks sake
What have Iran gained in any of this nothing bar an empty ship they boarded and siezed .

They got nothing and yet they are losing due to tighter and tighter sanctions

Fixed that for you.

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

1st war wasnt won by America it was won by a coalition of countries, America was on the winning team.

Iraq 2? You honestly call that a win?

They won both along with the coalition ,

As I said what came after was a total cluster **** or bad decisions after bad decisions which led to a terrorist insurgency , religious sectarian war which Iranians forces played a big part

NKante

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Really nope what have been you watching lately. Shooting and destroying military drones, tankers on fire, increased tension between navies in the region, Iran and UK doing piracy of tankers, increased Iranian enrichment of uranium. He is done nothing here to solve the crisis, he made it worse. Trump played this one stupidly and can go either way now. Trump after all blinked first and to be honest i think he made a wise decision, he be involving himself in far bigger war than the Iraq war. Soon or later Iran willl react even more severely if they try to cut their oil shipments to China or India. Iran already warned the build up of US and UK warships in strait of Hormuz is a provocative act, they might move to counter it if tensions keep up. Right now there is a slight decrease in tension, but only takes another trigger event and we back to crisis mode again.

Well there's two ways this can go. Some argue that the Iranian regime is pragmatic and will make carefully thought-out moves.

Others argue that it's a religiously fundamentalist regime with suicidal tendencies that would be prepared to nuke Israel even if they know they'd be nuked back 10 times over (in fact they've in the past had clerics who spoke about this as actual policy)

Personally, whilst they're total wackjobs....I think they'll remain pragmatic and will eventually have to negotiate. The problem with Iranians and Muslims in general, is their 'honour'. It's literally more important to them than their own children. They always have to save face. Can't show weakness. 'Humiliation' is a massive thing in the Islamic world.

There are rumours that talks are underway.

What we know is that Obama, that useless moron, gave Iran the green light to essentially involve itself in at least half a dozen conflicts and set up their proxies across the M.E. killing thousands.

So far, Trump is fairing a lot better.

Cheerful Spring2

Gatling wrote: »

Trump didn't blink ,he well knew what he was doing he backed Iran into a corner where they either have to put up or shut up ,

They interfered with foreign tankers litttrally tried to sink several what were they planning to achieve??

Then they shot down the drone and got no real response bar having one or two of theirs taken out ,still no American military response a few extra ships ,
Oil prices haven't really increased either diminishing iran again .
You have isreali jets flying over teran for fecks sake
What have Iran gained in any of this nothing bar an empty ship they boarded and siezed .

They got nothing and yet they are losing due to tighter and tighter sanctions

Don't be silly there was no Israeli aircraft flying over Tehran. It alleged by a Kuwait source unverified nonsense Isreal was flying F35 military jets in their airspace for hours. Israel has only 10 of them and they would never risk one getting shot down during a peace time situation. It would give Iran a propgranda win if there best fighter jets got blown up and there not a chance Israel would use them, full stop.

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

They won both along with the coalition ,

As I said what came after was a total cluster **** or bad decisions after bad decisions which led to a terrorist insurgency , religious sectarian war which Iranians forces played a big part

4,500 dead and 32,000 injured and all for nothing, i wouldn't call that a win in any way,shape or form.

ArchXStanton

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Really nope what have been you watching lately. Shooting and destroying military drones, tankers on fire, increased tension between navies in the region, Iran and UK doing piracy of tankers, increased Iranian enrichment of uranium. He is done nothing here to solve the crisis, he made it worse. Trump played this one stupidly and can go either way now. Trump after all blinked first and to be honest i think he made a wise decision, he be involving himself in far bigger war than the Iraq war. Soon or later Iran willl react even more severely if they try to cut their oil shipments to China or India. Iran already warned the build up of US and UK warships in strait of Hormuz is a provocative act, they might move to counter it if tensions keep up. Right now there is a slight decrease in tension, but only takes another trigger event and we back to crisis mode again.

I find it amazing the UK now wants a flotilla in the strait of Hormuz to solve a problem it created by acting like the good little poodle, I mean wtf did they expect, the Iranians would give them a free pass,they did warn them,seems the US/UK seem to think they can bully and push around any country in the middle east....

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

4,500 dead and 32,000 injured and all for nothing, i wouldn't call that a win in any way,shape or form.

That's nothing ask Russia what they lost in Chechen wars its 4 X times the deaths and casualties alone ,
Some believe they lost up to 10,000 in East Ukraine ,

Is it really a loss when you take onto account how many US troops actually served in Iraq over ten years

Gatling

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Don't be silly there was no Israeli aircraft flying over Tehran.

And yet You big up Iran ,they can do this and they have that and yet dismiss everything else as propaganda .....

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

That's nothing ask Russia what they lost in Chechen wars its 4 X times the deaths and casualties alone ,
Some believe they lost up to 10,000 in East Ukraine ,

Is it really a loss when you take onto account how many US troops actually served in Iraq over ten years

Nothing gained but more graves.

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Nothing gained but more graves.

Exactly .

So do say you were on the losing side or do you look at it differently now

Gatling

Actually rte 1 now iran and Saudi bitter rivals a documentary about the Iranian and Saudi Yemen conflict

Cheerful Spring2

Gatling wrote: »

And yet You big up Iran ,they can do this and they have that and yet dismiss everything else as propaganda .....

I'm not naive the US military is obviously better equipped for war and can do serious damage inside Iran. I just pointing out your naive about Iran ability to fight a war and fight back. Iran is not Iraq and if does happen this war, will all see the mess unfolding on TV.

Gatling

So watched the Iran / Saudi Yemen documentary

So essentially came down to saudi and America bad
Houti and iran is good .
Houti leaders were not getting help, weapons , fighters finance from Iran ,
It's wished by God .

But one thing that came out of it Iran has no real care for Yemen they don't have the ability or financial clout to win the war ,
Some of the houti leaders and forces were all about wiping out the Jews and America. Saudi
But remember Iran Isn't involved .

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

Exactly .

So do say you were on the losing side or do you look at it differently now

1st iraq war was won convincingly (by a coalitiin of many countries) and the objective was acheived.

What was acheived in the 2nd?

Cheerful Spring2

Gatling wrote: »

So watched the Iran / Saudi Yemen documentary

So essentially came down to saudi and America bad
Houti and iran is good .
Houti leaders were not getting help, weapons , fighters finance from Iran ,
It's wished by God .

But one thing that came out of it Iran has no real care for Yemen they don't have the ability or financial clout to win the war ,
Some of the houti leaders and forces were all about wiping out the Jews and America. Saudi
But remember Iran Isn't involved .

You can find this online i a watched the third part. You way of base. It was all about Iran and Saudi Arabia rivalry and distrust for each other. In the part i watched America was barely mentioned, even though they showed shia militas walking over ground painted Israel and America flags and giving out about Donald Trump, don't we all?

The episode was from 2017, and it maybe true Iran was not sending them heavy weapons back then. There actually no prove of IRGC and Hezbollah fighters are inside Yemen.

In 2019 the houtis are gaining ground and territory and UAE has effectively pulled its ground forces out and Saudi Arabia is fighting the war. In 2019, it much clearer now Iran has stepped up it effort to help the houtis with drones and missiles.

rockatansky

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

1st iraq war was won convincingly (by a coalitiin of many countries) and the objective was acheived.

What was acheived in the 2nd?

A big 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHED sign on a ship!

NKante

There's a video online of a suicide attack against the Houthi sorts.

They were in the middle of chanting "death to America, death to Israel"

In walks a Sunni Muslim and blows them all up.


I dunno, I just shrugged and made my tea.

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

But one thing that came out of it Iran has no real care for Yemen they don't have the ability or financial clout to win the war ,
Some of the houti leaders and forces were all about wiping out the Jews and America. Saudi
But remember Iran Isn't involved .

But they are winning, Saudi vassal the UAE pulled the plug on their involvement, so much for their so called coalition.

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

But they are winning,

Actually no it's widely believed the.houtis will be pushed back due to the simple fact Iran can't afford the fight in the long run ,
Houtis Will eventually fall back where they will split in to separate groups and tribal alliances ,
The UAE haven't completely withdrawn nor have they plans to ,
They took ground and held it trained close to 100,000 tribesmens how to fight and hold ground .


It seems there is an distinct lack of understanding by some about whats exactly happening now and in the future

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It is just a matter of time when Trump, with time running out and eager for a POSITIVE, will surely pull the plug on the evil 'Republic of Gilead' type tyrant John Bolton and his terrorist agendas. If Bolton wants to support the Mojahedin e Khalq, NetanYAHOO or Saudi Arabia, he should JOIN them, and leave America alone. If I were Trump, I'd cut all ties with Bolton and other should filth and do a better bigger deal with Iran to spite them and their evil agendas. It's been all negative so far and Bolton is the CAUSE of most of this negativity. If Obama was 'Yes we can', Bolton is 'no we can't'.