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Tesla Model 3 thread - V2.0
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But lacks any form of lumbar support- no good for a ould fella doing long journeys who would like to be able to get out of the car without help after a 4 hour journey.
Yep, I have arthritis in lots of places and also find the Niro's cabin very button laden, the nav screen seems tiny (the dash on my bike is about the same size!) and I would really like a top end sound system, AWD, performance and the autonomy.
I plan to keep the car for 10+ years, I've had the current one for over 15 so I think proportionally to the functionality, the 20k is well spent.
I think an M3 will age much better than the Niro and coming from a high-performance motorcyle I want have that "dead" feeling when switichin to to a car like the M3 versus a Niro or leaf.
Just for fun, I tried to configure an e-niro and got "page not found, the IP adress can't be reached" when clicking on the config button on the .ie web page. Sigh.Looks like UK has surplus of some model 3's (P-) and tesla is now selling them as inventory
https://tesla-info.com/UK/inventory.html
It absolutely makes no sense when they can just ship them across and make money.
Sheesh, two cars in my exact spec sitting over there on a lot without assignment and I'm sitting here waiting.
What utter nonsense.
If they are waiting for the budget they could tell us, they don't need to give any detail or if they have had hints, just "we are concentrating on the UK for now due to Brexit and are hopeful there will be a lower price for those of you waiting when you get the car which we are confident/hopeful will be in November".
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I used the configurator to spec up something similar to the TM3 and it came to 58k (well just over 56 if not adding the best headlight option).
No AWD, 300hp vs 450/instant torque and to my eye, it looks much worse than the TM3, I like a short front.
So taking the 2nd half of your points into account and adding the fact the BMW is still an ICE at heart so more expensive to run on top of the pollution, no thanks.
Agreed that Tesla need to improve auto-park, it will be interesting to see if there is anything on that in V10.
Better headlights are nice to have, but the TM3 at least has pretty good ones in general.
I do like the idea of Netflix and YT etc. being usable when stopped somewhere too.
Too much "silver bling" on the inside of the BMW too, that would drive me nuts, at least on the Telsa the horrible chrome (IMO, herself likes it!) is on the outside so you don't see it when driving. 0 -
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So passed an English Reg Model 3 on the way past Limerick this morning, then I noticed the Birdhill services so I slowed down and the M3 turned off so I popped in behind to follow up assuming it was going for a supercharge.
It was
Went over to say hello and have a good lookie.
It was A LOT bigger that what I thought it would be, quite high driving position.
The screen is a lot bigger than what I thought and much closer to the driver, everything was crystal clear on it. Dash just looked super cool. I would have no problem with the aero wheels.
Very impressive glass roof. Boot huge, it will not take clubs sideways but it will take them diagonally so happy out.
Black paint was quite orange peel.
Owned by an elderly couple, they were quite used to all the queries and people coming over to ask questions etc.
Super carMy stuff for sale on Adverts inc. outdoor furniture, roof box and EDDI
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Anyone on this thread saying I am at my limit financially should cancel there order straight away.
Your point/sentiment is valid, but when I say I am at my financial limit, that is still with leaving a "safety net" or buffer. i.e. I can still survive fine, I just won't have any spare cash for any other "luxury item" e.g. house updates/holidays etc. The plan is to use the car for holidays and the fuel savings pay for hotels etc.
I can still eat and survive (pay the bills) for a good while with no job.
Plus, in an absolute emergency it could be sold off, even losing 50% in a year (which would be utterly painful) would liquidate money to live on for quite some time if needed.
On the flip side, if buying the car puts you in debt and would mean an instant sale if suddenly out of work, then yes, it's probably not a good idea.
As mouthful says, I don't want to miss out by buying "just a car" instead of this tech wonder. To me, at my age/stage of life/health it makes more sense than just buying a box on wheels. Even if I end up selling it in a year, I plan to get lots of enjoyment while I can.
On top of that, as we get older it may be harder to drive due to various health conditions, so if FSD (L4 or 5) happens in the next few years, it may be the only way to be fully independant for some people versus needed to be chauferred - public transport isn't always an option either.
Everyone's case is likely different and lots of factors need to be weighed up.
There's always the option of renting out the house and living "car life" (van life).
We might even be up for a bit of taxi driving and then robo-taxi. 0 -
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Your point/sentiment is valid, but when I say I am at my financial limit, that is still with leaving a "safety net" or buffer. i.e. I can still survive fine, I just won't have any spare cash for any other "luxury item" e.g. house updates/holidays etc. The plan is to use the car for holidays and the fuel savings pay for hotels etc.
I can still eat and survive (pay the bills) for a good while with no job.
Plus, in an absolute emergency it could be sold off, even losing 50% in a year (which would be utterly painful) would liquidate money to live on for quite some time if needed.
On the flip side, if buying the car puts you in debt and would mean an instant sale if suddenly out of work, then yes, it's probably not a good idea.
As mouthful says, I don't want to miss out by buying "just a car" instead of this tech wonder. To me, at my age/stage of life/health it makes more sense than just buying a box on wheels. Even if I end up selling it in a year, I plan to get lots of enjoyment while I can.
On top of that, as we get older it may be harder to drive due to various health conditions, so if FSD (L4 or 5) happens in the next few years, it may be the only way to be fully independant for some people versus needed to be chauferred - public transport isn't always an option either.
Everyone's case is likely different and lots of factors need to be weighed up.
There's always the option of renting out the house and living "car life" (van life).
We might even be up for a bit of taxi driving and then robo-taxi.
You can’t afford this car based on what you are saying. Insane purchase don’t make the mistake of thinking you can for the love of god. I don’t care what you purchase just trying to give you finance advice. It is just a car don’t make a mistake and think otherwise. House and holidays are important not a bloody car, think what you are saying.0 -
Proof?
https://www.sae.org/news/2019/03/2019-navigant-autonomous-leaderboard
A robo taxi requires level 5 automation. Tesla are not going from near last place L2 to first place L5 in less than a year. Musk claimed 1M Tesla robo-taxies by the end of 2020. That is simply not going to happen.
Musk himself was acknowledging the difficulties only last year, and then just a few month later, he's lying his face off and committing financial fraud.
https://www.inverse.com/article/52528-a-tale-of-two-autonomous-driving-timelines-detroit-auto-show-vs-cesElon Musk, who claimed in October 2016 that his firm Tesla would reach full autonomy in 2017, later said in October 2018 that it’s “extremely difficult to achieve a general solution for self-driving that works well everywhere.”
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“There is now a broad recognition that AVs are not going to take over the world in the near term (3-5 years) but will instead be limited to very specific use cases,” Abuelsamid says. “There is also a recognition level 5 automation (that is automation that can operate anywhere and in any weather conditions) is unlikely until at least the late 2020s and likely much later than that.”0 -
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