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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)
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Hi Mellor!
I have a Sinn Destro that sees a lot of wrist time.
The Sinn Blurb as to why Destro includes some spiel as to the pushers being easier to operate with gloved hands in the destro setup.
Now, I'm not a pilot but, Thomond Park is as cold as 4000mtrs in an open cockpit and the Chrono pushers do a great job of allowing me to keep track of the time in play during the coldest of games ;)
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Doing a bit of last minute shopping in Kildare Village today. Signet Jewellers have always had a few random watches, brands like Alpina, Ball, Baume and Mercier nothing too mainstream. In today 4 Speedies, 2 Seamasters couple of Tudors and Breitling's. Sign said preowned but staff said they were ex display where the box had been lost. They are part of Ernest Jones so do carry a lot of brands. I will be keeping an eye more often to see what turns up. They said the are trying to get more into watches.
Tried on the Sapphire Speedy and Blue Seamaster. A Speedmaster is still the achievable Grail watch but I do really like the Seamaster. At current Omega RRP's I can definitely only afford buy one of them. Nuts for watches that were nearly half the current prices 10 years ago. 20% of the Strap Speedy is nearly getting into tempting territory but I know if I buy I should get in on the bracelet. Without box also probably want a bit more off? Box probably matters to me less as I'm unlikely to ever sell it. Though looking at Chrono24 prices they don't seem that far off. If the Pelagos had been 39mm with 20% off I would have been tempted as while still blowing my budget is slightly more affordable.
Didn't leave empty handed, have something under the tree for tomorrow. Ticks a lot of the Pelagos boxes! Titanium diver, very legible, micro adjust bracelet. Maybe a bit more robust!
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None of the brands mentioned unfortunately! Had considered getting a Ray Mears for a long time and when Micks_address posted his a few days ago I had started looking at them again. When I saw it for sale at €270 I couldn't leave it behind! I'm very impressed with it. Makes a G-Shock look delicate! Micro adjust on the Bracelet is very nice, will be very useful in summertime. It was already shortened in shop and is exactly my size fully closed.
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And out this pops from the future.
My ocd was triggered by a speck of dust on the dial which gave me a chance to check out the innards.
It has a single seal at the base of the crown but it passed the pressure test so it's swim worthy if tight!
Can't beat this for eighty quid on the bracelet. I had the 42mm murph and while it's a beauty it was too big, had no lume to speak of and the crystal was a real mess of reflections. This ticks all those boxes, well, for me anyhow:)
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Cathedral hands FTW. 😁
Nerdy Aside/ That 50 greatest watches list Banie linked to had some lovely Pateks, though as such "50 greatest[insert subject here]" lists tend to be, it's of the now. EG a decade or so ago the AP Royal Oak would have barely scraped into the list, never mind be number 2.
Tbh I've not read any watch journalism of late so it was interesting and good to read a few watch myths that weren't being repeated as fact any more. Things like the Santos was the first wristwatch, Rolex invented the date function etc. Though Patek didn't invent the Calatrava case style and they remain gung ho for the Quartz Crisis© myth, at least the origins and realities. Well, it doesn't suit Swiss marketing since the 90's so it's heavily engrained.
Piaget were hardly pioneers of developing quartz in the 60's. They were part of the 20 brand CEH group that were developing Swiss quartz and did buy in Beta 21's, like any Swiss brand that could afford to, but didn't release a movement until 1976 long after that horse had bolted, so Lord knows why they're included(no doubt someone "important" in the trade said it once and…). Patek, though pioneers in electronic timers for internal use, were another who bought in the Beta 21. Omega and Longines were among the main drivers internally and the latter even developed their own in house quartz alongside the Beta 21. For a start those brands had the cash reserves. Brands like Piaget were minnows by comparison. Even so, a minnow like Gerard Perregaux, who though small always tried to push the boat out even with their limited funds, were able to develop an in house quartz in 71 that set the standard for quartz frequency down to today.
The Swiss didn't get their act together? Mere weeks after the Astron was introduced the Swiss had introduced and were selling Beta 21 movement watches and their initial run was in the many hundreds and by many Swiss brands. They were also cheaper(relatively). By 72 they'd sold thousands. Put it this way: Seiko Astrons are as rare as rocking horse poop. They almost never come along, but Beta 21's? There's a couple of dozen on ebay at the moment. Omega alone sold over ten thousand Beta engined watches by 75. Omega in particular went all in on quartz and massively drove that tech throughout the 70's. They and the Swiss were more than competing with Seiko, they were outselling them. At least at first…
It was Digital watches that killed the Swiss and for a time made analogue watches from any source much less popular. Digital, developed by American brands and by the mid 70's made cheaper and cheaper by Asian manufacturers was a trend the Swiss completely missed, and when they got on board were releasing digital watches at least a year out of date and more expensive(Swiss Franc exchange rates didn't help). Plus the digital trend was far more an electronic manufacturing process than even analogue quartz watches and the vast majority of small to medium Swiss companies didn't have the tech, the training, or the cash to buy it and sell at Asian prices. The bigger brands like Omega, Zenith, Longines and smaller but with a steady following like Rolex, Patek etc limped along, but kept afloat(Rolex's fantastic and clever marketing in America really helped them). Others like Breitling and Heuer were sold off. For the rest; Game over. Until Swatch came along. Selling cheap throwaway plastic fashion watches, with quartz movements…
/Nerdy Aside 😁
Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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