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What practice/beliefs make you instantly lose respect for someone?
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »People who cannot see the other-side of the coin and see how Trump played the election superbly, annoy me if I am honest.
You have to give credit to the fella for winning when he was given no chance and laughed at.
Going from complete outsider even to get nominated, to President of the United States.
A billionaire who has managed to style himself as a straight talking, anti-establishment, man of the people'. Amazing marketing.
There are other viewpoints in the world and Trump expertly tapped into those, made publicity for himself, used social media, gave simple messages etc etc.
Meanwhile there was Hillary...... The best she could come up with in reply to try and make herself seem like a 'woman of the people' 'My great-grandfather the coal miner...'
Even in the face of all Trump's 'scandals' he still managed to win.
This made it an even more incredible campaign, exceptionally played by Trump is a massive achievement.
But the fact he won says a lot more about what is wrong with the American political system than it does about Donald J. Trump.
Do you admire Hitler for getting 13.5 million Germans to vote for him in the 1932 German presidential election?
As a frequent traveler to the US for work, I found a passionate hatred for Hillary Clinton that I never fully understood. Whatever the reasons, it does/did exist and I don't think Trump should be given too much credit for the Dems choosing the wrong candidate or for the Reps having rubbish candidates themselves for the last 35 years.
At the same time, he deserves some credit for winning hoodwinking voters and whoever his Dem opponent ultimately is in 18 months time, he'll probably win again regardless of all of this....
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »This is the main one for me it tells me so much about the person.
In particular people who are born and rared in Ireland, that make a deliberate and conscious effort to say TG 'four' = TG4.
Would it kill you to say 'ceathair'?
You can make the argument of course that they are translating the Irish word to English, and it has the correct meaning.
Yet the really galling thing is those people who make the conscious effort to say 'four' have no problem saying the following:
1) Luas (which means speed - ironic really as it is not very fast)
2) Dáil (which means assembly)
3) Oireachtas (which means assembly/gathering)
4) Taoiseach (which means chief/chieftain)
5) Garda (which means guard)
There used to be channel called TV5 in France now TV5monde. TV5 = TV 'cinq'.
Even a fella like me who has very little French would say 'Cinq' because that is what the French say.
It's the station's name even I know it means five!
When I hear an Irish person in particular say 'TG four' it immediately tells me a lot about them and thier mindset, without them having to say much more.
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Do you admire Hitler for getting 13.5 million Germans to vote for him in the 1932 German presidential election?
As a frequent traveler to the US for work, I found a passionate hatred for Hillary Clinton that I never fully understood. Whatever the reasons, it does/did exist and I don't think Trump should be given too much credit for the Dems choosing the wrong candidate or for the Reps having rubbish candidates themselves for the last 35 years.
At the same time, he deserves some credit for winning hoodwinking voters and whoever his Dem opponent ultimately is in 18 months time, he'll probably win again regardless of all of this....
What a dude. He's the type of guy who you'd love to go get a pint with. Unreal banter I'd say.0 -
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »This is the main one for me it tells me so much about the person.
In particular people who are born and rared in Ireland, that make a deliberate and conscious effort to say TG 'four' = TG4.
Would it kill you to say 'ceathair'?
You can make the argument of course that they are translating the Irish word to English, and it has the correct meaning.
Yet the really galling thing is those people who make the conscious effort to say 'four' have no problem saying the following:
1) Luas (which means speed - ironic really as it is not very fast)
2) Dáil (which means assembly)
3) Oireachtas (which means assembly/gathering)
4) Taoiseach (which means chief/chieftain)
5) Garda (which means guard)
There used to be channel called TV5 in France now TV5monde. TV5 = TV 'cinq'.
Even a fella like me who has very little French would say 'Cinq' because that is what the French say.
It's the station's name even I know it means five!
When I hear an Irish person in particular say 'TG four' it immediately tells me a lot about them and thier mindset, without them having to say much more.[/B]
Talk about a first world problem.EmmetSpiceland wrote: »What about those of us who still call it TnaG?
I think it is an Irish problem to be deliberately obtuse and say 'TG four' when you know it is known as 'TG ceathair'. It is still the hangover that colonisation instilled in the Irish people. English language = forward and progressive. Irish language = backward etc
As I said it really says a lot about the individual straight away, when they say 'TG four.'
It may mean a few things if they are born and rared in Ireland:
If the person is Irish - depending on who you are talking to it can lead a person to make a number of assumptions which may/may not be contained in the following list of the 'TG Four' people
1) They my have had a poor education and are from lower socio-economic background
2) They have a top class education, and are highly intelligent, from a high socio-economic background - and consciously want to avoid Irish, as they deem it inferior (this is the worse of the lot in my view)
3) They may have an extreme fear of using any Irish language
4) They may not want to be associated with the Irish language, and make a conscious effort to distance themselves from it
The irony is that if those that consciously make the effort to say 'TG four' knew a word such as 'Luas' they would say 'Speed' instead....
As for the 'TnaG' thing that avoids the whole mess entirely! Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.
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gormdubhgorm wrote: »I think it is an Irish problem to be deliberately obtuse and say 'TG four' when you know it is known as 'TG ceathair'. It is still the hangover that colonisation instilled in the Irish people. English language = forward and progressive. Irish language = backward etc
As I said it really says a lot about the individual straight away, when they say 'TG four.'
It may mean a few things if they are born and rared in Ireland:
If the person is Irish - depending on who you are talking to it can lead a person to make a number of assumptions which may/may not be contained in the following list of the 'TG Four' people
1) They my have had a poor education and are from lower socio-economic background
2) They have a top class education, and are highly intelligent, from a high socio-economic background - and consciously want to avoid Irish, as they deem it inferior (this is the worse of the lot in my view)
3) They may have an extreme fear of using any Irish language
4) They may not want to be associated with the Irish language, and make a conscious effort to distance themselves from it
The irony is that if those that consciously make the effort to say 'TG four' knew a word such as 'Luas' they would say 'Speed' instead....
As for the 'TnaG' thing that avoids the whole mess entirely!
Or 5), we're reared on English and when we see a 4 our brain says 'four'.0 -
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freshpopcorn wrote: »I hate when you met somebody and they expect you to bow to them and give them special attention because they think there really important.
Yeah who dey think dey is meghan markle??
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