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King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Every second you say it’s holocaust denial, I laugh. Jewish historians don’t even agree about the numbers, some go as low at 4 million, some say 5 million, some say 6 million, some go higher. 

Again. Historians doing actual research.
You aren't a historian. You aren't doing research.
What you are doing is repeating silly points you learned from a holocaust denier without understanding them let alone thinking about them critically.

What you are doing is holocaust denial.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

Again. Historians doing actual research.
You aren't a historian. You aren't doing research.
What you are doing is repeating silly points you learned from a holocaust denier without understanding them let alone thinking about them critically.

What you are doing is holocaust denial.

Kingmob answer this question. Provide an accurate picture then how they arrived at 6 million killed during the holocust? Did they not use pre-war population statistics to solve it?

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Kingmob answer this question. Provide an accurate picture then how they arrived at 6 million killed during the holocust? Did they not use pre-war population statistics to solve it?

I've answered this question many times and pointed where you can find more information.

You have not replied to any questions at.

I suggest you should contact the holocaust museum with your information and I'm sure they're correct their horrible mistake. :rolleyes:

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

I've answered this question many times and pointed where you can find more information.

You have not replied to any questions at.

I suggest you should contact the holocaust museum with your information and I'm sure they're correct their horrible mistake. :rolleyes:

Answer the question please. Are pre war Jewish European population stats accurate?

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Answer the question please.

I have answered the question several times. You do not answer any questions.

nullzero

King Mob wrote: »

That's not me arguing that you agree with him.
That isn't me claiming that you with agreeing everything Cheerful spring is saying.

That's me pointing out that you are avoiding saying directly that you disagree with him.

But if you read my posts I have said that I disagree with him.

It is notable that you have refused to offer evidence to back up what you are claiming about me.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

I have answered the question several times. You do not answer any questions.

See can't even answer that honestly.

nullzero

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's not hyperbole, it's an opinion. If you disagree with it, that's noted, just like your equal treatment of opinions here

You're welcome to your opinion. What your not welcome to is misrepresenting me and offering no evidence to back up your claims.

King Mob

nullzero wrote: »

But if you read my posts I have said that I disagree with him.

Yes. I know. But you seemed reluctant to state this fact directly and in clear terms.

However, the point here is that you claimed that I was accusing you of agreeing with everything he said.
That was false. It was a misrepresent ion of my position.

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

See can't even answer that honestly.

But cheerful I've answered your question many many times.

You do not respond to any questions put to you.

nullzero

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Provide a simple example from history

This made me laugh, you can't even provide an example from this thread. I'm still waiting for your evidence. People in glass houses.

Dohnjoe

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Kingmob answer this question. Provide an accurate picture then how they arrived at 6 million killed during the holocust? Did they not use pre-war population statistics to solve it?

No one has to prove anything to you. Whether or not you believe Holocaust history, it happened.

You don't challenge any other figures from WW2, just the Jewish dead.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

But cheerful I've answered your question many many times.

You do not respond to any questions put to you.

How many Jewish people lived in all Europe pre-war then? Give the number based on what you have learned. You don't believe the figure i gave?

nullzero

King Mob wrote: »

Yes. I know. But you seemed reluctant to state this fact directly and in clear terms.

However, the point here is that you claimed that I was accusing you of agreeing with everything he said.
That was false. It was a misrepresent ion of my position.

You are moving the goal posts now. Trying to make me look unreasonable when you have been trick acting your way through this "discussion" for pages now.

You still haven't offered any evidence of what you were claiming.
Until you manage that anything else you have to say is worthless.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be than saying I don't agree with him, how else should I phrase it?

Dohnjoe

nullzero wrote: »

You're welcome to your opinion.

Thank you.

nullzero

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Thank you.

Any sign of the evidence I requested?

Cheerful Spring2

Dohnjoe wrote: »

No one has to prove anything to you. Whether or not you believe Holocaust history, it happened.

You don't challenge any other figures from WW2, just the Jewish dead.

The most difficult part you don't what to tell me why I Am wrong, funny that. I just asking for some details and not receiving anything back.

We debating the Jewish holocaust, if you want to debate history crimes agaist humanity, open a new thread.

Dohnjoe

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

The most difficult part you don't what to tell me why I Am wrong

You've been told many times before. But I'll try again, are you willing to listen and engage reasonably?

Cheerful Spring2

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You've been told many times before. But I'll try again, are you willing to listen and engage reasonably?

That's also not true. You provide the pre-war population stats for European Jews and then we debate from that point. You claim right now my stats are wrong.

King Mob

nullzero wrote: »

You are moving the goal posts now. Trying to make me look unreasonable when you have been trick acting your way through this "discussion" for pages now.

You claimed I said one thing. I never said any such thing. Not sure what's trick acting about that...

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

How many Jewish people lived in all Europe pre-war then? Give the number based on what you have learned. You don't believe the figure i gave?

Again, I've answered your questions before. You refuse to answer any. Not sure why you are demanding answers now.

I'm sure you're quoting some kind of accurate figure, but again I don't have any faith in your interpretation of facts or your ability report them accurately.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

Again, I've answered your questions before. You refuse to answer any. Not sure why you are demanding answers now.

I'm sure you're quoting some kind of accurate figure, but again I don't have any faith in your interpretation of facts or your ability report them accurately.

Well you did not read it properly? The Museum claimed researchers used pre-war population numbers. If they're using pre-war numbers to solve it then there claiming 6 million Jews from 1933 onwards got killed by Holocuast.

The last complete census was done in 1933, that showed 9.5 million Jews lived in mainland Europe and Eastern Europe. The historians after the war claim 3.5 million survived. So you left with 6 million who disappeared from Europe. The researchers seem to want to push all the 6 million into the holocaust statistic.

It not wrong to claim 6 million Jews got displaced, killed, and died from other things because of the Nazis, but you need to be accurate for historical reasons.

nullzero

King Mob wrote: »

lol.
When you first stated those things, you weren't stating them as assumptions. You were stating them as facts.
Now, to avoid disagreeing with a conspiracy theorist you're walking back on your previous stance.

Cheerful is denying the holocaust. He is using baseless claims and silly arguments to deny that millions of deaths occured.
You know his arguments are ridiculous, but you won't comment as such.

So now, do you believe that holocaust denial is an acceptable form of "alternative" thought? If so, why did you change your mind?

This is the post I originally asked you to back up with evidence. You still haven't done it.

None of the things you attributed to me in that post are accurate, as a result you were unable to offer the evidence to support them that I asked for.

The nerve you have to say that I'm misrepresenting you when you can't address the facts in this discussion.

What is so difficult about saying you were wrong to say things about me that weren't true? Do you consider yourself infallible? Are you a narcissist?
What is the issue here?

nullzero

King Mob wrote: »

You claimed I said one thing. I never said any such thing. Not sure what's trick acting about that...

What about replying to the whole post instead of cherry picking what you reply to?

You still haven't offered any evidence to support what you said about me. You also didn't address how I could communicate the fact that I don't agree with Cheerful spring in a more obvious manner.

I await your response, hopefully it's a more concise one than you have manged thus far.

I addressed your post above by going back through the thread to offer you evidence of what you said.

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

The researchers seem to want to push all the 6 million into the holocaust statistic.

Because that's what the evidence shows.

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It not wrong to claim 6 million Jews got displaced, killed, and died from other things because of the Nazis, but you need to be accurate for historical reasons.

Yup and the accurate thing is that 6 million Jewish people were killed by the nazis.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

Because that's what the evidence shows.


Yup and the accurate thing is that 6 million Jewish people were killed by the nazis.

How Kingmob? 1933 to 1941 there is a 8 year gap of missing data! The holocaust began in 1941. Are you saying no Jewish families fled to other countries to escape the Nazis? Do you claim no Jewish people were killed when the nazi war machine invaded Poland, Holland and Belgium in 1939 and 1940. Seventy million people killed during WW2. No jewish people killed then?

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

How Kingmob?

Again, I've answered this question directly.
You should direct your concerns to the researchers at the holocaust museum.

I'm sure they've a very special box for all the holocaust denial emails.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

Again, I've answered this question directly.
You should direct your concerns to the researchers at the holocaust museum.

I'm sure they've a very special box for all the holocaust denial emails.

Holocaust period is well known it started in 1941 and ended in early 1945. Fact is they are claiming all 6 million perished during that period. Only way it can be right, the population stats are false and that's a different debate.

King Mob

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Holocaust period is well known it started in 1941 and ended in early 1945. Fact is they are claiming all 6 million perished during that period. Only way it can be right, the population stats are false and that's a different debate.

Again, you should tell this to them.
You, despite not being a historian, not doing any research and without even reading a single book on the holocaust obviously know the facts between than them, a large body of trained historians who all specialise in holocaust research.

Email them and they'll change the mistakes in the website I'm sure.

Cheerful Spring2

King Mob wrote: »

Again, you should tell this to them.
You, despite not being a historian, not doing any research and without even reading a single book on the holocaust obviously know the facts between than them, a large body of trained historians who all specialise in holocaust research.

Email them and they'll change the mistakes in the website I'm sure.

I show why I Am not lying. This is the stats I use



9.5 million includes the Soviet Union and all of Europe.
3.5 million survived.
So that's how they arrived at six million Jewish people killed during the holocust period!