38kWh Ioniq

Mickeroo

Winter range test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjW_FUGz-e4

And summary of the 1000km run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHJy_8mQLg

zoom_cool

Seen two of the 38 ioniq yesterday anybody here got one?

BigAl81

There's a 3 grand scrappage deal on the new Ioniq in case anyone is interested!

eagerv

BigAl81 wrote: »

There's a 3 grand scrappage deal on the new Ioniq in case anyone is interested!

Brought one for a good drive yesterday, looking at changing the bosses hybrid.


Lovely car to drive, I thought it was very smooth. There was a storm blowing so not the best day, but was rock solid and fairly quiet on the road. Never driven the 28kWh so cannot compare.

Didn't feel very powerful but perfectly adequate. (Tried in all modes)



The missus thought that the light leather interior was a nicer place to be than the ESoul or the Niro, I sort of agreed. The spec is pretty good.



Range would suit us perfectly, rarely needing to fast charge.
Pity about the charging speed, though wouldn't effect us.


Looks as though it will sell well, but even at 34 K after scrappage it's pricey..

adunis

Drives the exact same as the 28,personally couldn't detect one iota of the extra power refinement ride quality etc etc felt identical to me.

zg3409

BigAl81 wrote: »

There's a 3 grand scrappage deal on the new Ioniq in case anyone is interested!

They added 5,500 to the price from the old model which was high spec except for no leather, no steering wheel warmer. The scrappage makes it a bit more reasonable but a used 28,kWh for 20,000 euro is even better value and it charges quicker than the 38kWh

unkel

So how much is a 38kWh now on the road (with scrappage)?

zg3409 wrote: »

They added 5,500 to the price from the old model which was high spec except for no leather, no steering wheel warmer.

MY2019 Ioniq 28kWh did have steering wheel warmer as standard.

Mickeroo

Should be about 33k after scrappage.

As far as I'm aware BMW didn't add anything to the cost of the 44 Kwh i3 ? bad form from Hyundai.

BigAl81

It should be less than 30k after scrappage in my opinion!!

It's actually 34.5k AFTER scrappage I was told by a dealer today!!!!

I got my Ioniq for 26k after scrappage. That's some difference for a car that will only do about 50kms more in the winter!!

Kramer

BigAl81 wrote: »

I got my Ioniq for 26k after scrappage.

I think you overpaid - IIRC, some got their Ioniqs for just €25k :P.

BigAl81 wrote: »

It should be less than 30k after scrappage in my opinion!!

I think maybe €31k, or €32k max, with scrappage, would be OK.

eagerv

unkel wrote: »

So how much is a 38kWh now on the road (with scrappage)?

I was quoted €36,945. (Incl metallic) Less 3K scrappage.

unkel

€34k on the road (incl metallic paint) is poor value for money, imho. That said, almost all EVs are poor value for money at the moment, with only a few exceptions like MINI EV, base eGolf, BMW i3 and Tesla Model 3 Performance.

peposhi

unkel wrote: »

€34k on the road (incl metallic paint) is poor value for money, imho. That said, almost all EVs are poor value for money at the moment, with only a few exceptions like MINI EV, base eGolf, BMW i3 and Tesla Model 3 Performance.

There’s never good value for early adopters, unkel...
I remember back in 2004/5 a colleague of mine spending €2.5k on a Sony laptop that was obsolete within 4 years. My ‘07 desktop still does the basics my ‘19 tablet does... With EVs it’s just a bigger scale money wise.

unkel

peposhi wrote: »

There’s never good value for early adopters, unkel...

I beg to differ. I was offered a brand new Leaf 24kWh for €19k on the road incl metallic paint and 6.6kW charger in 2016. I bought a brand new Ioniq 28kWh for €25k on the road incl metallic paint in 2017

Both pretty good value for money...

peposhi

unkel wrote: »

I beg to differ. I was offered a brand new Leaf 24kWh for €19k on the road incl metallic paint and 6.6kW charger in 2016. I bought a brand new Ioniq 28kWh for €25k on the road incl metallic paint in 2017

Both pretty good value for money...

Ah, now... you didn’t want to come with me and get my e-Soul for €35k

unkel

Probably wouldn't have done any better myself

As I said, most EVs are not great value for money at the moment. Things were far better a few years ago when there was little supply, but also little demand. Now there is still pretty low supply but lots of people now want to buy EVs. Demand > supply and the price goes up. Because the dealers / manufacturers can get away with it.

eagerv

unkel wrote: »

€34k on the road (incl metallic paint) is poor value for money, imho. That said, almost all EVs are poor value for money at the moment, with only a few exceptions like MINI EV, base eGolf, BMW i3 and Tesla Model 3 Performance.

Not sure about the i3 being good value.
The base BMW i3 120Ah is coming in at about 39K incl metallic and delivery. Put in a few extras and you are quickly up to 42K.

Granted it's faster and more fun to drive than the Ioniq, but WLTP range is similar.


For many the Ioniq will be more practical and better equipped.

unkel

Aye. Agree with you completely. The i3 is only good value if you look at the list price of €36k

eagerv

Off topic but the car that gave me the biggest shock price wise is the new Kona.


About 42K on the road.
Only extras above the old model are the new 10.25" info system (As in Ioniq etc) and 11kW AC charging.


It's getting worse not better:)

Silent Running

eagerv wrote: »

Off topic but the car that gave me the biggest shock price wise is the new Kona.


About 42K on the road.
Only extras above the old model are the new 10.25" info system (As in Ioniq etc) and 11kW AC charging.


It's getting worse not better:)

Does it still not have adaptive cruise, auto emergency braking or adaptive regen?

eagerv

Silent Running wrote: »

Does it still not have adaptive cruise, auto emergency braking or adaptive regen?

Not that I could see, but didn't ask many questions as I had zero interest.

After checking Website only extras I can see are 10.25" Info system, 8 speaker Krell Audio, 11 kW charger and Emergency call function.

slave1

peposhi wrote: »

There’s never good value for early adopters, unkel...
I remember back in 2004/5 a colleague of mine spending €2.5k on a Sony laptop that was obsolete within 4 years. My ‘07 desktop still does the basics my ‘19 tablet does... With EVs it’s just a bigger scale money wise.

LOL, I picked up a mint Leaf30 at 6months and a day old for €16.3k, have it three years now and it has never missed a heartbeat.
Bargains were there but all gone now

unkel

slave1 wrote: »

LOL, I picked up a mint Leaf30 at 6months and a day old for €16.3k

Damn, I didn't remember it was that cheap. Sweet

peposhi

slave1 wrote: »

LOL, I picked up a mint Leaf30 at 6months and a day old for €16.3k, have it three years now and it has never missed a heartbeat.
Bargains were there but all gone now

You got some deal there, slave1

I think I got a good deal on the i3 rex ? 37,500 , 9 months old 9,500 kms around 55 K new with the spec ?

BigAl81

Does anyone know of the app (Blue Link?) is available in Ireland? I can't seem to download it on Android, says not available in my country.

Have the car for a test drive for the weekend and was hoping to test it out.

I notice the app says can be used to turn the heating on, any idea if the car still needs to be plugged in for this?

Thanks!

zg3409

BigAl81 wrote: »

Does anyone know of the app (Blue Link?) is available in Ireland? I can't seem to download it on Android, says not available in my country.

Have the car for a test drive for the weekend and was hoping to test it out.

I notice the app says can be used to turn the heating on, any idea if the car still needs to be plugged in for this?

Thanks!

I heard a rumour it may not be in the early 38kWh models. On the leaf you can remotely heat when not plugged in, but only a limited time and limited to one or two attempts. However EVs tend to heat up from cold very quick, heated seats, heated steering wheel, instant heat pump from switch on, driver only fan. I normally hit recirculation on the fan to heat up my ioniq 28kWh on the way home from work and even with zero degrees outside its cosy in 2 or 3 minutes I preheat every morning and its great to remove ice from windscreen, but I've never needed that on way home in afternoon.

unkel

zg3409 wrote: »

On the leaf you can remotely heat when not plugged in

With the Leaf's resistive heater? That will decrease the winter motorway range of the L24 from 60km to about 3km

eagerv

BigAl81 wrote: »

Have the car for a test drive for the weekend

Will be interested how you find the new Ioniq, please report back..


I am just a bit disappointed with Hyundai and their pricing of the new model.
It ticks all the boxes for us, as it would be our second car. But probably used more than our ICE.:) Most of our driving is at 100 km/h or less, not being blessed with motorways for most of our driving.



I like the efficiency of the Ioniq, the 28kWh would probably do us, but the new car would be perfect.